so senju were fodders?

[Joseph Gomes]

Uchiha were fodder compared to the Senju. Madara, Sasuke, Obito, Itachi and Shisui are exceptions not the rule.

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Hashirama is also an exception

Take out Hashirama, all senju are fodder without kekkei genkai. Take out the top 5 uchiha, even then you will get more Uchiha with ability to awaken sharingan

Anyway, 5 uchiha > 2 senju

Uchiha wins

 

[Ja maya]

Obito and Itachi tipped the dynamics

Once again, they were not alive when senju and uchiha fought. Including them is useless.

 

[V h o]

Fodders that solo'd the Uchiha during the war. U_U

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Once again, they were not alive when senju and uchiha fought. Including them is useless.

Not really. Who told we have to be stuck on a specific time period? Hashirama already fought against Obito. Uchiha have far better feats

The senju are only hype who became extinct. Hashirama is the only special senju. Rest were the same as sarutobi members

 

[Char Aznable]

Hashirama is also an exception

Take out Hashirama, all senju are fodder without kekkei genkai. Take out the top 5 uchiha, even then you will get more Uchiha with ability to awaken sharingan

Anyway, 5 uchiha > 2 senju

Uchiha wins

Naruto has no KKG and he's surpassed Sasuke.

Tsunade has no KKG and she traded blows and took a lot of physical punishment from with Edo (infinite chakra) EMS Madara.

Tobirama has no KKG and he solo'ed Izuna. He later went on to become the Hokage.

Kushina's chakra chains subdued a sharingan possessed Kybui. This after Kushina just gave birth.

Nagato was able to manipulate, animate and coordinate 6 different bodies using multiple jutus when he invaded Konoha. The senju's powerful bodies and powerful physical energy at work.

While not a combat ninja, Karin's sensing and healing abilities are first class.


So no, the Senju are not fodder. They all have to work hard for the power and control they attain. Each Uchiha who gets a sharingan gets wrapped up in the "power" of their eyes and thinks they can take on the world. Take the sharingan away from an Uchiha and compare them to a ninja of equal level and you'll be shocked at the result.

 

[SMX]

Naruto has no KKG and he's surpassed Sasuke.

Tsunade has no KKG and she traded blows and took a lot of physical punishment from with Edo (infinite chakra) EMS Madara.

Tobirama has no KKG and he solo'ed Izuna. He later went on to become the Hokage.

Kushina's chakra chains subdued a sharingan possessed Kybui. This after Kushina just gave birth.

Nagato was able to manipulate, animate and coordinate 6 different bodies using multiple jutus when he invaded Konoha. The senju's powerful bodies and powerful physical energy at work.

While not a combat ninja, Karin's sensing and healing abilities are first class.


So no, the Senju are not fodder. They all have to work hard for the power and control they attain. Each Uchiha who gets a sharingan gets wrapped up in the "power" of their eyes and thinks they can take on the world. Take the sharingan away from an Uchiha and compare them to a ninja of equal level and you'll be shocked at the result.

Woah don't turn this into a sasuke vs naruto thread lol
They tied

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Naruto has no KKG and he's surpassed Sasuke.

Tsunade has no KKG and she traded blows and took a lot of physical punishment from with Edo (infinite chakra) EMS Madara.

Tobirama has no KKG and he solo'ed Izuna. He later went on to become the Hokage.

Kushina's chakra chains subdued a sharingan possessed Kybui. This after Kushina just gave birth.

Nagato was able to manipulate, animate and coordinate 6 different bodies using multiple jutus when he invaded Konoha. The senju's powerful bodies and powerful physical energy at work.

While not a combat ninja, Karin's sensing and healing abilities are first class.


So no, the Senju are not fodder. They all have to work hard for the power and control they attain. Each Uchiha who gets a sharingan gets wrapped up in the "power" of their eyes and thinks they can take on the world. Take the sharingan away from an Uchiha and compare them to a ninja of equal level and you'll be shocked at the result.

What has Naruto, Kushina, karin and nagato has to do with senju being fodder? :|

 

[Char Aznable]

Woah don't turn this into a sasuke vs naruto thread lol
They tied

Recall Sasuke had to amp Indra's arrow with chakra from all 9 Bijuu.

Also Sasuke's final chidori was combined with Amaterasu. While all Naruto used was a standard rasengan.

Naruto > Sasuke.

 

[the entire forum]

karin -fooder

naruto -borrowed power from uchiha pet...,below to uchiha

nagato -borrowed power from uchiha..., below to uchiha...


fodders...

 

[Joseph Gomes]

karin -fooder

naruto -borrowed power from uchiha pet

nagato -borrowed power from uchiha...


fodders...

No need to bash the Uzumaki though

 

[SMX]

Recall Sasuke had to amp Indra's arrow with chakra from all 9 Bijuu.

Also Sasuke's final chidori was combined with Amaterasu. While all Naruto used was a standard rasengan.

Naruto > Sasuke.

Recall those rasenshurikens had all the nature energy on earth
Naruto was able to use that rasengan thx to kurama without him naruto dies by that chidori
And they both were in the same situation at the end of the fight

 

[Ja maya]

Not really. Who told we have to be stuck on a specific time period? Hashirama already fought against Obito. Uchiha have far better feats

The senju are only hype who became extinct. Hashirama is the only special senju. Rest were the same as sarutobi members

Is it completely fair to compare when all the senju and uchiha haven't fought toe to toe for decades. Obito and uchiha of post clan war can't count in this case. They are of the future.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Is it completely fair to compare when all the senju and uchiha haven't fought toe to toe for decades. Obito and uchiha of post clan war can't count in this case. They are of the future.

What restriction is there which prevent comparing between different eras? We already saw past and future clashing. Thats what happened in the whole war. Past vs Present. Edo vs Alive

Hashirama already commented on Itachi.

I don't even use Izuna as a reference to praise Uchiha. Izuna is a featless fodder

There's no way Hashirama and Tobirama can take on all the Uchiha with the feats shown

Feats > Hype

 

[Ambivalence]

Can you guys learn what "fodder" means, please?

Overall they were an elite clan. It's a fact their only rival were the Uchiha, which means everyone else got stomped. Hashirama and Tobirama were the strongest of their clan.

Word your thread better. I'm confident you wanted to say "so Hashirama was the only exceptional shinobi of the clan?" or something like that. If not, then you're probably one of those people who considers someone who isn't in the Top 10 fodder...

 

[VongolaLegacy]

Sorry but it's totally horsecrap to say that the senjus of the forest haven't a bloodline limit, do you forgot their strong bodys and lifeforce?

 

[SS100]

Tsunade was a senju, and she was a Hokage. Edo Madara couldn't even kill her, nor any of the other five Kage because she was around. At the very least, she is note worthy.

Lol, dude godara was playing with all the gokages like they were his own pets

 

[Demonic.]

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Senju own the Uchiha. The Uchiha only became the best after the Senju slowly mixed with other clans.

And even then, Naruto has Senju blood in him, and he's number 1 right now. Mad Op?

 

[TenthHokagexRamen]

I don't believe they were fodder just because they don't have any kkg. All senju shown have pretty good feats. Tsuande strong has the best medical jutsu in the world. Tobirama invented many techniques even ftg and edo tensin was obviously very smart. Hashirama....do i even i have to say anything about him? Then there's the uzumaki who are basically the same as senju who can immobilize a tailed beast like kurma with their kkg sealing chains. Naruto, Nagato, and karin all have amazing chakra which they utilizes in their own way. Naruto got sage mode, Nagato can control double rinnigans and karin can heal any injury with a simple bite of her arm. So once again I don't think their weak their techniques simply shine in other ways other than destructive attacks like uchihas.

 

[JStar King]

Uchiha were fodder compared to the Senju. Madara, Sasuke, Obito, Itachi and Shisui are exceptions not the rule.

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That's only because they had Hashirama. Without him, they're fodder.

 

[Sir Madara]

Uchiha were fodder compared to the Senju. Madara, Sasuke, Obito, Itachi and Shisui are exceptions not the rule.

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/thread solo by manga phax