So PS > BSM in terms of defense? Still.

[AlphaScythian]

So not so long ago we have found out the extend of BSM durability and i would like to clear out how it compares to that of PS​

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^^^ BSM durability is equivalent to that of senjutsu v3 susanoo. Both were destroyed yet provided enough defense for users to survive.

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^^^ Here is the punishment PS went through until most of it got destroyed.

Now i personally view 11 or more full kurama TBBs going off near simultaneously and hundred fist punches (each is comparable to biju tail in size) to be a greater damage out put then what BSM or senjutsu v3 susanoo went through.

So thoughts?​

 

[Tera Path]

Madara's PS easily has way more defense when compared to BSM.

If PS got fisted a thousand times (lol) even if it wasn't an entire Susano'o, just the armor, it provided exceptional defense.

If it didn't give good enough defense, 1 or 2 punches would've already killed Madara.

 

[Bronze]

You're not factorizing the size here. Sasuke's PS is a lot smaller than Madara's, as evident he couldn't completely cover the Bijuu mode.

I agree with the title of thread, but I am simply adding more explanation.

 

[Sunagura]

Yeappp, Madara PS>BSM and sasuke SSusano in defense

 

[Erebus]

No man, you're going to far, PS, especially Madara's easily takes best Defense stats.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Naruto tanked Juubi's attacks, so no.

Not even close.

 

[BlinkST]

PS > BSM

Agreed.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Madara's PS easily has way more defense when compared to BSM.

If PS got fisted a thousand times (lol) even if it wasn't an entire Susano'o, just the armor, it provided exceptional defense.

If it didn't give good enough defense, 1 or 2 punches would've already killed Madara.

Thanks

You're not factorizing the size here. Sasuke's PS is a lot smaller than Madara's, as evident he couldn't completely cover the Bijuu mode.

I agree with the title of thread, but I am simply adding more explanation.

You mean those tail tips? Personally i think it was on purpose, either way we arent talking of big difference here.

Yeappp, Madara PS>BSM and sasuke SSusano in defense

No man, you're going to far, PS, especially Madara's easily takes best Defense stats.

Is what im saying

Naruto tanked Juubi's attacks, so no.

Not even close.

Gotcha

 

[Wolfus]

Yeah, madara's PS> BSM in defense, that's for sure.

However, the first exemple you used, that's not a good exemple. Just because both got destroyed by the same atack, it doesn't mean they have the same durability.

Let me give you an exemple. Let's say "a" can withstand X "damage, and "b" can withstand Y. Now, let's say X>>Y. However, both a and b took a Z damage, and Z>>X. That means that both a and b were destroyed by the atack with Z damage. That doesn't mean X=Y. Got it?

As for sasuke's PS, considering that sasuke just unlockedit, and most likely, it's smaller than madara's, sasuke PS wouldn't be in madara's lvl. i think, when it's about defense, it might surpass 50% BM(after all, one of susanoo's main atribute is defense, whereas BM avatar I don't think it's made for that), as for BSM, it might be equal or a bit above. I believe it's above, but we have yet to see that.

 

[Ahmed1993]

Well said bro U_U

 

[Handsome Jack]

In Defense yea, I agreed, but the speed NO! Already there Has Naruto advantage xd

 

[AlphaScythian]

Yeah, madara's PS> BSM in defense, that's for sure.

However, the first exemple you used, that's not a good exemple. Just because both got destroyed by the same atack, it doesn't mean they have the same durability.

Let me give you an exemple. Let's say "a" can withstand X "damage, and "b" can withstand Y. Now, let's say X>>Y. However, both a and b took a Z damage, and Z>>X. That means that both a and b were destroyed by the atack with Z damage. That doesn't mean X=Y. Got it?

The example is fine. Both users made it out alive and well thus durability is roughly the same. Or i could speculate that naruto survived due to SM body which would make BSM weaker then

 

[xxSAGExx]

So not so long ago we have found out the extend of BSM durability and i would like to clear out how it compares to that of PS​

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^^^ BSM durability is equivalent to that of senjutsu v3 susanoo. Both were destroyed yet provided enough defense for users to survive.

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^^^ Here is another braking point of senjutsu v3 susanoo and of BSM by comparison.

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^^^ Here is the punishment PS went through until most of it got destroyed.

Now i personally view 11 or more full kurama TBBs going off near simultaneously and hundred fist punches (each is comparable to biju tail in size) to be a greater damage out put then what BSM or senjutsu v3 susanoo went through.

So thoughts?​

Well BM alone tanked a blast from the Juubi, lost 6 tails but survived. That's the best defensive feat of the two. Wouldn't BSM have the increased durability of SM? Plus you do know Naruto was barely at halve power when he went BSM both times right? First time was when Yang Kurama was low on chakra and Naruto lost KM while tring to go BM and had to borrow some of Yin Kurama's chakra. Then they gave a lot to the SA then Naruto got it absorbed by the God tree.

The 2nd time he went BSM, Yin wouldn't have enough chakra to put Yang Kurama at halve power but lower but the natural energy would increase the chakra to halve or slightly above it.

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[Wolfus]

The example is fine. Both users made it out alive and well thus durability is roughly the same. Or i could speculate that naruto survived due to SM body which would make BSM weaker then

No, it's not. Just because both were destroyed by the same atack, doesn't mean it's the same durability. But if you disagree, then disprove my exemple. Otherwise, keep your opinion for yourself.

 

[adeshina365]

You're not factorizing the size here. Sasuke's PS is a lot smaller than Madara's, as evident he couldn't completely cover the Bijuu mode.

1. In Madara's case:

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[AlphaScythian]

Well BM alone tanked a blast from the Juubi, lost 6 tails but survived. That's the best defensive feat of the two. Wouldn't BSM have the increased durability of SM? Plus you do know Naruto was barely at halve power when he went BSM both times right? First time was when Yang Kurama was low on chakra and Naruto lost KM while tring to go BM and had to borrow some of Yin Kurama's chakra. Then they gave a lot to the SA then Naruto got it absorbed by the God tree.

The 2nd time he went BSM, Yin wouldn't have enough chakra to put Yang Kurama at halve power but lower but the natural energy would increase the chakra to halve or slightly above it.

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Juubi laser has no feats, only hype. Obito was conserving juubi's power fyi.
Kishi has clearly drawn the parallel of durability between BM and susanoo. SM v3 susanoo = BSM or V3 susanoo = BM. Get used to it.

No, it's not. Just because both were destroyed by the same atack, doesn't mean it's the same durability. But if you disagree, then disprove my exemple. Otherwise, keep your opinion for yourself.

S = sasuke's HP, N= nardo's HP, X = Senjutsu susanoo, B = BSM, D = damage applied.
X/D=S ... N=B/D....Sasuke and nardo are equally fine thus X=B.
Keep hostilities to yourself!

 

[Booker]

BM Cloak alone tanked a full power Juubi TBB lazer.

 

[Wolfus]

Juubi laser has no feats, only hype. Obito was conserving juubi's power fyi.
Kishi has clearly drawn the parallel of durability between BM and susanoo. SM v3 susanoo = BSM or V3 susanoo = BM. Get used to it.


S = sasuke's HP, N= nardo's HP, X = Senjutsu susanoo, B = BSM, D = damage applied.
X/D=S ... N=B/D....Sasuke and nardo are equally fine thus X=B.
Keep hostilities to yourself!

False. Simply because that's not how you consider damage or defense.
Also, being "equally fine" was nothing more than an assumption. It would be the same as saying that I'm as healthy as a sick guy because we both "look" fine.

Again, just because both were destroyed by the same atack, doesn't mean they have the same defense. Let me give you a more extreme exemple:

Sasuke in his PS is alongside konohamaru, and juubito uses his most powerful move. This results in both being KOed or killed. So, PS= konohamaru's defense, right? Wrong.

 

[Huzaifa]

False. Simply because that's not how you consider damage or defense.
Also, being "equally fine" was nothing more than an assumption. It would be the same as saying that I'm as healthy as a sick guy because we both "look" fine.

Again, just because both were destroyed by the same atack, doesn't mean they have the same defense. Let me give you a more extreme exemple:

Sasuke in his PS is alongside konohamaru, and juubito uses his most powerful move. This results in both being KOed or killed. So, PS= konohamaru's defense, right? Wrong.

Why watse your time on this guy. He thinks sasuke with no sharingan powers>Sm Naruto. He is a renowned wanker and naruto hater.

 

[Wolfus]

Why watse your time on this guy. He thinks sasuke with no sharingan powers>Sm Naruto. He is a renowned wanker and naruto hater.

Oh, I know. I've seen him before in some threads of mine. I know he is a uchiha fanboy.