[Predictions] So Oda said that the final war will be so big that...

[Bogard]

Be pretty stupid writing for the greatest military power who reside amongst the top of the highest tier to not be challenging by the end of the manga. It's more fit for Dragon and his forces to handle the Gorosei, and the pirates the Marines.

Unless they get a huge upgrade meantime, they won't. With the current power-scaling, end of serie Luffy should be capable to low the current admirals. I think Dragon will die and Sabo will inherit his will

 

[Punk Hazard]

Unless they get a huge upgrade meantime, they won't. With the current power-scaling, end of serie Luffy should be capable to low the current admirals. I think Dragon will die and Sabo will inherit his will

Dying.
Dead.
Deceased.
Funeral's tomorrow guys

 

[Bogard]

Dying.
Dead.
Deceased.
Funeral's tomorrow guys

Lmao why? It's just the truth. Lol Try to scale yourself n u'd see

 

[Punk Hazard]

Lmao why? It's just the truth. Lol Try to scale yourself n u'd see

O rlly? Explain this scale to me and how you came to that conclusion?

 

[Bogard]

O rlly? Explain this scale to me and how you came to that conclusion?

Prime Rayleigh > Kizaru high difficulty(at most)
Kizaru<=Kuzan=Akainu
Prime Whitebeard > Prime Rayleigh high difficulty
-> Prime Whitebeard > Kizaru/Kuzan/Akainu mid difficulty(at most)

Prime Whitebeard<=Roger<EOS Luffy
-> EOS Luffy > Kizaru/Kuzan/Akainu low difficulty

 

[Hexuze]

EoS Luffy being able to low-diff an admiral is nonsense.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Prime Rayleigh > Kizaru high difficulty(at most)
Kizaru<=Kuzan=Akainu
Prime Whitebeard > Prime Rayleigh high difficulty
-> Prime Whitebeard > Kizaru/Kuzan/Akainu mid difficulty(at most)

Prime Whitebeard<=Roger<EOS Luffy
-> EOS Luffy > Kizaru/Kuzan/Akainu low difficulty

Ohh I see the problem. You have an opinion that is based on almost nothing, and you think it's a fact. Luffy being able to low-diff Admirals is indeed nonsense. How do you know that Roger isn't only slightly stronger than the Admirals are currently? A lot of this is based on some pretty ridiculous assumption.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Ohh I see the problem. You have an opinion that is based on almost nothing, and you think it's a fact. Luffy being able to low-diff Admirals is indeed nonsense. How do you know that Roger isn't only slightly stronger than the Admirals are currently? A lot of this is based on some pretty ridiculous assumption.

In his defense, Rayleigh did say that he would have been able to handle Kizaru, Sentomaru, and Kuma by himself if he was in his prime.

 

[Bogard]

Ohh I see the problem. You have an opinion that is based on almost nothing, and you think it's a fact. Luffy being able to low-diff Admirals is indeed nonsense. How do you know that Roger isn't only slightly stronger than the Admirals are currently? A lot of this is based on some pretty ridiculous assumption.

No, it's based on facts. Roger can't be slightly than current admirals considering his right hand man is already stronger than them by a decent margin

In his defense, Rayleigh did say that he would have been able to handle Kizaru, Sentomaru, and Kuma by himself if he was in his prime.

Indeed

 

[Punk Hazard]

In his defense, Rayleigh did say that he would have been able to handle Kizaru, Sentomaru, and Kuma by himself if he was in his prime.

1. Funny. Just read the entire struggle against those three, Rayleigh said no such thing

2. You mean like how Bellamy said he'd defeat Luffy, how Law said he'd defeat Doffy by himself for sure this time and how Enel said his will alone created the world?

No, it's based on facts. Roger can't be slightly than current admirals considering his right hand man is already stronger than them by a decent margin

Indeed

What facts? You have no idea how much stronger Roger is than the Admirals are currently, or by the end of the series. You have no idea that Luffy is going to surpass Roger in the first place. For all you know, Kizaru would low-diff Rayleigh as they are now. For all you know, Kizaru at this best in the series would extreme diff Rayleigh at his best. Too much is in the dark right now for you to say that EOS Luffy would low diff them.

 

[Bogard]

What facts? You have no idea how much stronger Roger is than the Admirals are currently, or by the end of the series.

And i don't need to when i know Roger is stronger than Prime Rayleigh and i can use Prime Rayleigh as a basis

You have no idea that Luffy is going to surpass Roger in the first place.

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For all you know, Kizaru would low-diff Rayleigh as they are now.

No, he can't:

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If we want to capture you here, we need need to make certain preparations

And this is about a Rayleigh:

1- Old and inactive during 20years
2- A body not working as it used to:

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He was held off by a Rayleigh in his worse state, so let alone his prime self. It's pretty clear prime Rayleigh > Kizaru by a decent margin

For all you know, Kizaru at this best in the series would extreme diff Rayleigh at his best. Too much is in the dark right now for you to say that EOS Luffy would low diff them.

There is nothing dark. Everything is pretty clear

 

[jiraiya lives]

Matchups look pretty good, and yes Luffy needs to beat Teach on his own or I will be disappointed. And another thing, why is Akainu fighting Luffy and then Sabo afterwards? Is it because Akainu is out of his league, and EOS Sabo needs to be the one to avenge Ace by beating Akainu with the mera mera? I like that. Luffy will obviously be stronger than those 2 so that makes sense.

I especially like the Law vs Doffy part 2 fight. Law low diffing him also made me happy, Corazon would be proud. Zoro retaining his WSS title by cutting Diamond. Something I believe Mihawk will be revealed unable to do also seems awesome.

The only thing I see that may be wrong is the see is the plot, I think it should be flip flopped, WB said a war would happen after one piece is found.

I believe that Luffy and Akainu will have a brief clash, not a full length battle. Sabo is the one who I believe will have a full length battle with Akainu and eventually beat him.

@the bold part: You're completely right, I forgot all about WB words

 

[Punk Hazard]

And i don't need to when i know Roger is stronger than Prime Rayleigh and i can use Prime Rayleigh as a basis

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No, he can't:

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If we want to capture you here, we need need to make certain preparations

And this is about a Rayleigh:

1- Old and inactive during 20years
2- A body not working as it used to:

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3- Not holding a sword since a while:

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He was held off by a Rayleigh in his worse state, so let alone his prime self. It's pretty clear prime Rayleigh > Kizaru by a decent margin
There is nothing dark. Everything is pretty clear

And you also have no idea how prime Rayleigh compares to the Admirals currently.

Was that supposed to be proof that the general assumption that Luffy will surpass Roger is guaranteed?

Kizaru is noted for saying things to his opponents that he doesn't mean because of his trolling nature. Unless you think Kizaru is scared by Luffy and the other Supernova. Besides, preparations to capture Rayleigh. Flat out killing Rayleigh is a different story.

Also, what says Rayleigh was holding off Kizaru? Kizaru knew full and well that Sentomarou and the Pacifista could handle the Strawhat crew. He could have just been fighting Rayleigh for the sake of fighting a worthy opponent. It's clear the fighters in OP enjoy fighting to a degree after all.

When you regard assumptions as facts, then yeah, it must be pretty clear to you.

 

[Hexuze]

In his defense, Rayleigh did say that he would have been able to handle Kizaru, Sentomaru, and Kuma by himself if he was in his prime.

Scan please.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Scan please.

I checked, it doesn't exist.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I checked, it doesn't exist.

He didn't say exactly what I thought he said.

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Here he is implying that he could have fought Kizaru, Kuma, and Sentomaru at the same time if he was in his prime, at least that's how I interpret it.

 

[OG sama]

And you also have no idea how prime Rayleigh compares to the Admirals currently.

Was that supposed to be proof that the general assumption that Luffy will surpass Roger is guaranteed?

Kizaru is noted for saying things to his opponents that he doesn't mean because of his trolling nature. Unless you think Kizaru is scared by Luffy and the other Supernova. Besides, preparations to capture Rayleigh. Flat out killing Rayleigh is a different story.

Also, what says Rayleigh was holding off Kizaru? Kizaru knew full and well that Sentomarou and the Pacifista could handle the Strawhat crew. He could have just been fighting Rayleigh for the sake of fighting a worthy opponent. It's clear the fighters in OP enjoy fighting to a degree after all.

When you regard assumptions as facts, then yeah, it must be pretty clear to you.

@bold well Chinjao was doubting Luffy and saying he wouldn't, it was foreshadowing that he will.

 

[OG sama]

He didn't say exactly what I thought he said.

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Here he is implying that he could have fought Kizaru, Kuma, and Sentomaru at the same time if he was in his prime, at least that's how I interpret it.

Yeah you seem to be on to something:
Rayleigh: I'd like to help them but I'm getting old.
Kizaru: Your holding off a marine Admiral on your own and your asking for MORE?

I think that foreshadows that he could very well fight all of them in his prime. I never cared about that statement until now.

 

[Ryuma720]

It will make the marineford war look like some sort of filler & just young kids hitting each other.

Wtf will that war be about in order for this to happen? xD

My prediction:


Strawhats & Allies vs Marines vs Blackbeard Pirates

Shanks dies T___T from BlackBeard

Revolutionaries bring down the Government


Luffy vs Blackbeard (Final Showdown)

Luffy defeats Blackbeard

Strawhats find the One Piece


Luffy becomes Pirate King !!!!!!!!


Timeskip:
Luffy x Boa Hancock
Zoro x Robin
Sanji x Nami
Usopp x That girl from the Usopp arc


Luffy gets executed but before that he tells that the One Piece is far off on the Grand Line kicking off the next Gen to find it (but no spinoff)

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

My prediction:


Strawhats & Allies vs Marines vs Blackbeard Pirates

Shanks dies T___T from BlackBeard

Revolutionaries bring down the Government


Luffy vs Blackbeard (Final Showdown)

Luffy defeats Blackbeard

Strawhats find the One Piece


Luffy becomes Pirate King !!!!!!!!


Timeskip:
Luffy x Boa Hancock
Zoro x Robin
Sanji x Nami
Usopp x That girl from the Usopp arc


Luffy gets executed but before that he tells that the One Piece is far off on the Grand Line kicking off the next Gen to find it (but no spinoff)

That makes no sense, why would Luffy be executed if the WG is brought down?