So Mystic Gohan < Vegeta or Goku?

[Vegeta]

it goes like this
Dragon fist SSJ3 Goku>Angry SSJ2 Vegeta>Ultimate Gohan>SSJ3 Goku>SSJ2 Vegeta

That is mind blowing...It's like a paradox wrapped in an enigma

 

[SonTj]

That is mind blowing...It's like a paradox wrapped in an enigma

what am i wrong lol XD

 

[Vegeta]

what am i wrong lol XD

No, I suppose not

 

[Penguin]

This movie was not canon. Gohan cannot turn SSJ, so that should point out this movies un-canoness.

Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Goku > Majin Vegeta >= SSJ2 Goku >= SSJ2 Vegeta >= SSJ2 Teen Gohan.

 

[SonTj]

This movie was not canon. Gohan cannot turn SSJ, so that should point out this movies un-canoness.

Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Goku > Majin Vegeta >= SSJ2 Goku >= SSJ2 Vegeta >= SSJ2 Teen Gohan.

it is canon gohan stopped using SSJ because he unlocked a stronger form there is no need to down grade

 

[Penguin]

Wait...this movie...was canon? Oh that is just great. :|

 

[Vegeta]

Wait...this movie...was canon? Oh that is just great. :|

^_^ Indeed, and Vegeta was > than Kakarot <for a minute>

 

[Rainbow Dash]

^I thought Lord Vegeta is always > Kakarotto.

 

[Vegeta]

^I thought Lord Vegeta is always > Kakarotto.

By a landslide, but this time there's proof

 

[Penguin]

^_^ Indeed, and Vegeta was > than Kakarot <for a minute>

Just great. I rather that not happen. I miss Gohan being the strongest character un-fused.

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

Proof the Gohan who fought Buu was at the same strength as the Gohan who fought Bills?


Cause you know, Gohan has a habit of not training. Go ask people who lift weights what would happen to their bodies if they stopped lifting for 6 month, 1 year, 3 years....

Make it easy for you and I'll give you the answer.

Spoiler

They get weaker.

So ya. If you can prove that the Gohan we saw in this movie was at the same power when he fought Buu, you can say what you are saying as 100% fact. Until then


Mystic Gohan(when he fought Buu) > Goku or Vegeta


Current weakened Gohan < Vegeta or Goku

 

[-Punk-]

Yes , Mystic Gohan is fodder , Vegeta & Goku are in another league .

Canon as fvck . #Haters be flipping tables.

 

[Jonesy161]

Do you guys not know a thing about DBZ? Let me explain to you all then.

In the final ark of DBZ with Buu, Vegeta and Goku were the most powerful saiyans there were, as far as we knew. Goku only recently attained SSJ3, and though it made him more powerful then Vegeta, it also drained his power greatly as he barely knew how to fully control the power of SSJ3.

Gohan then had his inner powers awakened, giving him FULL CONTROL over all his power. We dubbed this as Mystic Gohan. Mystic Gohan rivals the power of SSJ3 Goku. The sole reason Gohan was stronger was due to the fact that Goku was still a newbie per say in the SSJ3 form.

Later on, as Goku fully controls the power of SSJ3, he is able to utilize his powers to their full extent. At this point now, SSJ3 Goku surpasses Mystic Gohan in power.

So the actual order of power is...

SSJ3 Goku Prime > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Goku Newbie > SSJ2 Vegeta

The according to the new "Battle of Gods" Movie, order is...

SSJ3 Goku Prime > SSJ2 Vegeta > Mystic Gohan

Then there's that stupid nonsense that SSJ2 Vegeta surpassed SSJ3 Goku which is to dumb for words... In fact, the entire movie was pathetic.

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

Do you guys not know a thing about DBZ? Let me explain to you all then.

In the final ark of DBZ with Buu, Vegeta and Goku were the most powerful saiyans there were, as far as we knew. Goku only recently attained SSJ3, and though it made him more powerful then Vegeta, it also drained his power greatly as he barely knew how to fully control the power of SSJ3.

Gohan then had his inner powers awakened, giving him FULL CONTROL over all his power. We dubbed this as Mystic Gohan. Mystic Gohan rivals the power of SSJ3 Goku. The sole reason Gohan was stronger was due to the fact that Goku was still a newbie per say in the SSJ3 form.

Later on, as Goku fully controls the power of SSJ3, he is able to utilize his powers to their full extent. At this point now, SSJ3 Goku surpasses Mystic Gohan in power.

So the actual order of power is...

SSJ3 Goku Prime > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Goku Newbie > SSJ2 Vegeta

The according to the new "Battle of Gods" Movie, order is...

SSJ3 Goku Prime > SSJ2 Vegeta > Mystic Gohan

Then there's that stupid nonsense that SSJ2 Vegeta surpassed SSJ3 Goku which is to dumb for words... In fact, the entire movie was pathetic.

This is all true, but it is not the only truth. Gohan ALSO got weaker because he stopped training. There is no way to judge if Gohan back then is still stronger then Goku and Vegeta now. The Opposite can be said as well. There is no way to judge if their training was enough to surpass the status of what Gohan was back then.

Basically, if Buu absorbed(Gotenks + Piccolo + others) is stronger then current Vegeta and Goku now, then Gohan is still the strongest. This is because you use characters at their strongest point in a debate. if you think Goku and Vegeta are stronger then that Buu, who was owning Goku and on par with Gotenks, then yes, they are stronger.


Of course there is no proof either way so this entire argument is pointless and based on opinions and ppl fanboying.

 

[-Punk-]

Do you guys not know a thing about DBZ? Let me explain to you all then.

In the final ark of DBZ with Buu, Vegeta and Goku were the most powerful saiyans there were, as far as we knew. Goku only recently attained SSJ3, and though it made him more powerful then Vegeta, it also drained his power greatly as he barely knew how to fully control the power of SSJ3.

Gohan then had his inner powers awakened, giving him FULL CONTROL over all his power. We dubbed this as Mystic Gohan. Mystic Gohan rivals the power of SSJ3 Goku. The sole reason Gohan was stronger was due to the fact that Goku was still a newbie per say in the SSJ3 form.

Later on, as Goku fully controls the power of SSJ3, he is able to utilize his powers to their full extent. At this point now, SSJ3 Goku surpasses Mystic Gohan in power.

So the actual order of power is...

SSJ3 Goku Prime > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Goku Newbie > SSJ2 Vegeta

The according to the new "Battle of Gods" Movie, order is...

SSJ3 Goku Prime > SSJ2 Vegeta > Mystic Gohan

Then there's that stupid nonsense that SSJ2 Vegeta surpassed SSJ3 Goku which is to dumb for words... In fact, the entire movie was pathetic.

If you didn't noticed in the movie Goku got cocky , that's why he got soloed by bills even in SSJ3 , while Vegetas good side finally took over him & fought to protect the one he loved it made him stronger , that's what we are use to see from goku & that's what we saw at the end of the movie , you can't argue with what the movie said & roshi ........Vegeta has potential.

The story just started & movie was great , deal with it .

 

[Naruto9001]

This is all true, but it is not the only truth. Gohan ALSO got weaker because he stopped training. There is no way to judge if Gohan back then is still stronger then Goku and Vegeta now. The Opposite can be said as well. There is no way to judge if their training was enough to surpass the status of what Gohan was back then.

Basically, if Buu absorbed(Gotenks + Piccolo + others) is stronger then current Vegeta and Goku now, then Gohan is still the strongest. This is because you use characters at their strongest point in a debate. if you think Goku and Vegeta are stronger then that Buu, who was owning Goku and on par with Gotenks, then yes, they are stronger.


Of course there is no proof either way so this entire argument is pointless and based on opinions and ppl fanboying.

Bulma just turned 38 and Goten and Trunks were the same size they were in the Boo arc so it doesn't look like much time passed. Gohan is probadly still about the same power level. It's just Goku and Vegeta got massively haxed.

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

Bulma just turned 38 and Goten and Trunks were the same size they were in the Boo arc so it doesn't look like much time passed. Gohan is probadly still about the same power level. It's just Goku and Vegeta got massively haxed.

After the Buu arc, there was a ten year time skip. When they all started to meet again to go to the tournament, they first met Pan. She was 4 years old when they first met her.

Let's do some math.

10-4 = 6

6 * 12 = 72 months

72 months - 9 months(because it takes 9 months to have a baby) = 63 months.

Basically ATLEAST 63 months had to have passed in order for the canon part at the end of DBZ to make sense.


That's plenty of time for Gohan to wear down.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Ahh... Don't people read the damn manga or watch anime?

Akira Toriyama stated clearly that Mystic Gohan is the strongest un-fused character in series.

Then came Bills, SSJG and Whis.

So yes, Mystic Gohan > Vegeta or up to SSJ3 Goku.

 

[ayesha161]

Ahh... Don't people read the damn manga or watch anime?

Akira Toriyama stated clearly that Mystic Gohan is the strongest un-fused character in series.

Then came Bills, SSJG and Whis.

So yes, Mystic Gohan > Vegeta or up to SSJ3 Goku.

Lol Chou Gohan is the strongest non fused character in the MANGA, not the ANIME.

It's obvious that Goku and Vegeta are stronger than Chou Gohan in the Anime.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Lol Chou Gohan is the strongest non fused character in the MANGA, not the ANIME.

It's obvious that Goku and Vegeta are stronger than Chou Gohan in the Anime.

In BOG Anime right?

Wrong.

Kid Buu was ignificantly weaker than Kid Buu, yet Kid Buu soloed them two low diff.

Super Bjuu was strong as f- and got beaten in seconds by Mystic Gohan.

+ The fact that Goku's power was rivaled by Fat Buu, who was damn weak would've gotten spanked by Gohan.

And since Vegeta was fodderized so damn bad by only Kd Buu in SSJ2, he was nowhere near Gohan's power level.

And Bills spanked all of them, so that stupid theory isn't even good for debates.