~So let me try to understand this character Naruto Uzumaki~

[Natsu Shazneel]

If more people were like Naruto then crimes would go unpunished because even the worst criminals would get away if they say they're sorry.

There's a difference between fantasy and reality,characters like Naruto belong to the former.The world doesn't work the way Naruto thinks it does,there will always be hatred and suffering because of the simple fact humans exist.

The difference between Obito and real criminals is, That Obito is not a complete psychopath that can never be changed.

 

[UzumakiWade]

If more people were like Naruto then crimes would go unpunished because even the worst criminals would get away if they say they're sorry.

Not true at all, Naruto is forgiving but he has the common sense to know good guys from bad guys. He's not THAT forgiving

There's a difference between fantasy and reality,characters like Naruto belong to the former.The world doesn't work the way Naruto thinks it does,there will always be hatred and suffering because of the simple fact humans exist.

True, the world will always be crap. But with people like naruto, the crappiness of the world can be reduced. Making the world a bit less shitty is a good thing.

 

[TrollKing]

You're confusing hatred with anger lol

Angry enough to jump straight to super saiyan 11 from a 2 year old monkey and revenge for obito by chopping kaguya up. I'm surprised there's no hatred Lol

 

[UzumakiWade]

And here I thought Naruto was supposed to be above such emotions,looks like he's just the same as everyone else afterall.

Remember, no matter how forgiving Naruto is, he is still human. Anyone would get angry if a criminal or murderer had killed someone close to them.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

The difference between Obito and real criminals is, That Obito is not a complete psychopath that can never be changed.

Change doesn't mean anything if the person is allowed to not face the consequences for their actions.Obito had got everything he ever wanted but what about the thousands of deaths that occurred because of him?Do you think they would approve of him dying with a clean slate?

 

[lucario14]

The difference between Obito and real criminals is, That Obito is not a complete psychopath that can never be changed.

So the definition of a real criminal is if they can or cannot be changed? So nagato, itachi, orochimaru and kabuto aren't real criminals?

 

[UzumakiWade]

Angry enough to jump straight to super saiyan 11 from a 2 year old monkey and chopped kaguya up. I'm surprised there's no hatred Lol

Well when a person gets angry they do tend to take their rage out on something. Like when im angry i rip paper to shreds to calm myself. Maybe their might have been a bit of hatred there but hey, he should have a free hall pass for hating Kaguya. She did kill Obito

 

[UzumakiWade]

Angry enough to jump straight to super saiyan 11 from a 2 year old monkey and chopped kaguya up. I'm surprised there's no hatred Lol

Well when a person gets angry they do tend to take their rage out on something. Like when im angry i rip paper to shreds to calm myself. Maybe their might have been a bit of hatred there but hey, he should have a free hall pass for hating Kaguya. She did kill Obito

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Well when a person gets angry they do tend to take their rage out on something. Like when im angry i rip paper to shreds to calm myself. Maybe their might have been a bit of hatred there but hey, he should have a free hall pass for hating Kaguya. She did kill Obito

Did'nt you just say hatred can't be fought with more hatred?Contradictions are fun.

 

[cafe123]

Remember, no matter how forgiving Naruto is, he is still human. Anyone would get angry if a criminal or murderer had killed someone close to them.

Exactly, his level of forgiveness is too far fetched, it makes his character less believable and harder to relate to.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Change doesn't mean anything if the person is allowed to not face the consequences for their actions.Obito had got everything he ever wanted but what about the thousands of deaths that occurred because of him?Do you think they would approve of him dying with a clean slate?

Obito could have died many times in this manga. Out of them the worst way to die was when Madara told him that he was nothing more than a mere puppet that he wanted to use. Knowing all you were told was just a lie, mustv'e really dented his soul. So yes in a way Obito did get the taste of his own medicine before he died that time. Even in his dying moments while managing to save Naruto. You could tell he felt guilty of what he did through out his life. Naruto is not praising the criminal Obito, he is praising the changed Obito. By saving Naruto he has saved the Ninja world from mass existence. Don't you feel that alone is enough for him to die peacefully?

 

[UzumakiWade]

Did'nt you just say hatred can't be fought with more hatred?Contradictions are fun.

Dang, you are good-_-. Well, like i said, she did kill Obito. Besides, his hatred is directed towards a good cause (unlike Sasuke's). Even without his hatred his missing is to defeat Kaguya, there's no harm in emotions giving him a little boost to finish the job, right?

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

I believe you need to balance out your ways of changing someone. Some people can't be changed so you need to use force to bring them down to earth. That doesn't naturally mean you hate them. Just a different way of doing things is all.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Exactly, his level of forgiveness is too far fetched, it makes his character less believable and harder to relate to.

Well, i dunno about you but to me his level of forgiveness just proves how good a person he is. To me, his forgiveness doesn't make him seem unrealistic, but it inspires people of how there are still good men,women and children in the world. Nobody can relate to him because he is naturally more better than all of us at being a good person.

 

[TrollKing]

Well when a person gets angry they do tend to take their rage out on something. Like when im angry i rip paper to shreds to calm myself. Maybe their might have been a bit of hatred there but hey, he should have a free hall pass for hating Kaguya. She did kill Obito

That means the person let his emotion completely control himself. Have practically no self-control and uses violence to lash out on anything like a psychopath. That sounds just as bad as hatred if not worse Lol

Sasuke's whole clan and parents got slaughtered in front of him, he got a free pass too

 

[UzumakiWade]

Exactly, his level of forgiveness is too far fetched, it makes his character less believable and harder to relate to.

Well, i dunno about you but to me his level of forgiveness just proves how good a person he is. To me, his forgiveness doesn't make him seem unrealistic, but it inspires people of how there are still good men,women and children in the world. Nobody can relate to him because he is naturally more better than all of us at being a good person.

 

[UzumakiWade]

That means the person let his emotion completely control himself. Have practically no self-control and uses violence to lash out on anything like a psychopath. That sounds just as bad as hatred if not worse Lol

Sasuke's whole clan and parents got slaughtered in front of him, he got a free pass too

Well its not like he lashed out on an ally or something, he just used his emotions as a boost to get his mission(which is to kill Kaguya) finished faster. Sasuke may have had a free pass there, but even after Itachi explained the story. He directed his hatred towards Konoha, when he should of still been angry at Itachi since he could of declined the mission instead of taking it or he could of just run away and avoid doing it. Better to be a missing-nin that didn't do anything wrong rather than a missing-nin who slaughtered his whole clan.

 

[TrollKing]

Well its not like he lashed out on an ally or something, he just used his emotions as a boost to get his mission(which is to kill Kaguya) finished faster. Sasuke may have had a free pass there, but even after Itachi explained the story. He directed his hatred towards Konoha, when he should of still been angry at Itachi since he could of declined the mission instead of taking it or he could of just run away and avoid doing it. Better to be a missing-nin that didn't do anything wrong rather than a missing-nin who slaughtered his whole clan.

Single demension, yes naruto only harm the villian. But when go deeper, naruto is feeding on a very strong negative energy that can't be controlled which is his emotion. Anger speaks lot louder than reason.

Sasuke is different. He doesn't know reason. He was raised to be a psychopath. He has practically no self control. If you use normal reason to look at him, you just won't get it

 

[Leinad Sotam]

> after someone tries to kill your parents and succeed you find them cool
> after someone tries to kill you when you were just a baby toddler you still find them cool
> after someone who summons the Kyubi on your own village that kills innocent people you find them cool
> after someone who creates an organization that consist of 10+ S ranked criminals that hunt Bijuu and Jinchuriki you still find them cool
> after someone who starts a war and tries to create a world under a dream you find them cool
> after someone who summons the Juubi and kills more people including your friends fathers you still find them cool
> after someone who one shots one of your friends and kills them you still find them cool
> after someone who summons the Shinju and kills even more shinobi you still find them cool

You want to know who did all of this? Obito did.

But unlike many "normal realistic" people, Naruto finds a man who did all of this to his life cool. Naruto might not be a revengeful boy set on hatred but at this point in the manga and this last chapter further confirmed for me that Naruto is one of the most, unrealistic morons I have ever met in manga/anime history.

If someone did all of this to me, you better be damn I would never find your ass cool even in the slightest. I would probably find you to be disgusting and a compete waste of human life and to make matters worse, Naruto was crying for him.

I just can't...

Well anyway, that's all I wanted to say.



So, what do you think about this?

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[MAN OF SIN]

Naruto didn't cry over Nagato dying, why is he crying for this scumbag?