~So let me try to understand this character Naruto Uzumaki~

[Trúth]

Completely agree. Naruto has become such a joke.

 

[Angelic.]

Haku didn't "realize" anything. She just died. It was Zabuza that realized he shouldn't treat Haku as a tool, but it was too late since Haku was dead.

And Haku is a completely different case, she was like, what, 15 when she died.... She was a child, while Obito was a grown ass man when he commited 90% of his sins

sorry im talking about villages.


why is it a surprise naruto cried for him? saw it coming months ago lol. he wanted obito to turn himself in

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Basically a she.

What makes you think it was a she? It was clearly stated in the manga its a guy.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

What makes you think it was a she? It was clearly stated in the manga its a guy.

I said "basically" meaning she had no characteristics of a guy. Don't even know why Kishi made her a guy.

 

[bencoby]

It doesn't matter. All the bad things Obito does completely overrides Kid Obito. If someone killed my family and friends, I'm gonna hate all of that person, i don't care how good he was in the past. I'm going to his past self as well.

You see
(1) No one is trying to justify what Obito did hell he could rot in hell for all we care.

(2) But you do realise tha Obito has done alot for the whole SA and majorly Naruto right?

(3) It you had read the whole manga instead just picking simple phrases from it and also paying attention to context, then you really wouldn't be making those baseless arguments.

 

[Made in Heaven]

sorry im talking about villages.


why is it a surprise naruto cried for him? saw it coming months ago lol. he wanted obito to turn himself in

It's not surprising, it's pathetic. It didn't even happen with Nagato.... for god's sake, he showed more emotion for Obito than he did to NEJI

 

[Lana Del Taka]

You see
(1) No one is trying to justify what Obito did hell he could rot in hell for all we care.

(2) But you do realise tha Obito has done alot for the whole SA and majorly Naruto right?

(3) It you had read the whole manga instead just picking simple phrases from it and also paying attention to context, then you really wouldn't be making these arguments.

There wouldn't be a need for his helping if he hadn't caused all of this.

I get the whole forgiving and hating thing but praising him is too much, even forgiving him is pushing it.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

It's not surprising, it's pathetic. It didn't even happen with Nagato.... for god's sake, he showed more emotion for Obito than he did to NEJI

Completely agree.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Well its not Naruto's fault that Kishi wanted to give Obito a better send off than Neji.

 

[Dannie]

so naruto not allowed to have an opinion ?

Ye, he can have an opinion, but when it's a stupid opinion then people will speak.

 

[bencoby]

Naruto is justifying it by admiring and idolizing him. By calling him cool, he's basically sweeping all of his crimes under the rug to be ignored

He is not idolizing Obito, his is only idolizing and paying homage to the Hokage position. Its all about the HOKAGE and not Obito.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

He is not idolizing Obito, his is only idolizing and paying homage to the Hokage position. Its all about the HOKAGE and not Obito.

No he's not only idolizing that.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Tell me Naruto fans, if Obito lived what would Naruto tell the alliance? Because Naruto wanted to save Obito, so if he saved Obito do you think he would tell the Alliance to forgive him?

 

[bencoby]

There wouldn't be a need for his helping if he hadn't caused all of this.

I get the whole forgiving and hating thing but praising him is too much, even forgiving him is pushing it.

And if he had not helped them the would all have been dead now. I mean what did he have to lose, nothing.

You are still not getting it. Why would he praise him or even forgive him. Like I have been saying it's all about the HOKAGE position. Obito even parted saying Naruto should become HOKAGE at all cost, you can see what that position ment to both of them.

 

[take it easy]

Tell me Naruto fans, if Obito lived what would Naruto tell the alliance? Because Naruto wanted to save Obito, so if he saved Obito do you think he would tell the Alliance to forgive him?

here's your answer

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[Lana Del Taka]

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And what would his punishment be? Death? That was already happening but Naruto wanted to save him.

 

[-ahhimane-]

> after someone tries to kill your parents and succeed you find them cool
> after someone tries to kill you when you were just a baby toddler you still find them cool
> after someone who summons the Kyubi on your own village that kills innocent people you find them cool
> after someone who creates an organization that consist of 10+ S ranked criminals that hunt Bijuu and Jinchuriki you still find them cool
> after someone who starts a war and tries to create a world under a dream you find them cool
> after someone who summons the Juubi and kills more people including your friends fathers you still find them cool
> after someone who one shots one of your friends and kills them you still find them cool
> after someone who summons the Shinju and kills even more shinobi you still find them cool

You want to know who did all of this? Obito did.

But unlike many "normal realistic" people, Naruto finds a man who did all of this to his life cool. Naruto might not be a revengeful boy set on hatred but at this point in the manga and this last chapter further confirmed for me that Naruto is one of the most, unrealistic morons I have ever met in manga/anime history.

If someone did all of this to me, you better be damn I would never find your ass cool even in the slightest. I would probably find you to be disgusting and a compete waste of human life and to make matters worse, Naruto was crying for him.

I just can't...

Well anyway, that's all I wanted to say.



So, what do you think about this?

The statements you provided " after someone...... " even I won't give a sh*t about someone who did this to me.
But I fairly Disagree on your reasons to hate Naruto. In short, you failed to understand Naruto's character, Sasuke's character as well. I'll explain the latter as well.

Yeah, no one can say that the person is cool when he did such crimes. But, naruto said he is cool and I agree with him. He didn't say "HE is cool" because of these reasons which you provided.

Obito did this. Obito is the reason for the death of Naruto's parents, for the lives of many shinobis. But he was just a tool. Obito was used by Madara and Black Zetsu. And not only Obito was defeated by the Allied Shinobis but also betrayed by Madara and BZ. Later he found how everything was planned to turn him into a puppet of Madara. But Naruto saved him. Obito then struggled to correct his mistakes. He fought against madara and BZ even when he was on the verge of death but he refused to die NOT until he do something worth for the compensation for his crimes. He even decided to use Rinne Tensei to resurrect the shinobis died in the war.
And in the end he compensated for his crimes by sacrificing himself to save Naruto and Kakashi.

Now think about this, if Obito, from the start, were to fight in the war from Allied Shinobis sides do you think he'll take a kunai and die like that?
Obito wanted to become Hokage and he wouldn't have gone down with just a kunai.
What Obito did after he came to senses is something a Hokage might do (and same thing the previous Hokages did)
And that's the reason Naruto said Obito is cool.

About Sasuke, he did the same. Itachi killed his clan including his own parents. Sasuke hated him and wanted to kill him. But in the end, it was proved that Itachi did to protect the village. What Sasuke did? He only grew more respect towards Itachi EVEN after Itachi killed everyone.
If Itachi were shown to be evil from start to end, he would be cool as a villain. And even after knowing the truth behind his crimes, he was still the cool guy. Why? He still is labeled with those crimes, right?

Itachi killed his clan for the sake of the village.
Obito lost Rin because he got to know the hate inside the world of shinobis.
Itachi tried to did everything by himself to protect the village.
Obito also tried to do everything to activate IT in order to put a stop on this hatred. ( though he was a puppet )
Even in the end, Edo itachi died for the village.
In the end, Obito, after coming to senses, died to protect the ONLY HOPE to save this shinobi world.

Thank you. I rests my case.

 

[bencoby]

No he's not only idolizing that.

Since you fail to listen to reason, then I guess we just have to agree to disagree so have a good day.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Since you fail to listen to reason, then I guess we just have to agree to disagree so have a good day.

Oops, i meant to put "just" before "that" but we still disagree. So you too.

 

[Made in Heaven]

And what would his punishment be? Death? That was already happening but Naruto wanted to save him.

His punishment? Lol I wonder what that could have been if not death...