So Kakashi can also throw giant shurikens and black sealing rods?

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The illustration was to show that Weapons are kept in their hideout. Your making a huge assumption that because he was preparing for war he put all his weapons somewhere in his Kamui Dimension. Preparations for war
Getting his Rinnegan.
His Zetsus.
Putting Weapons in the Kamui Dimension is the least of his worries especially if he forgets it he can just Teleport to them get it and pull it out. Kakashi does not know where the Weapons are. Everything you said was assumption. Even if the Weapons are in the Kamui Dimension Kakashi does not know where in that dimension the Weapons are.
Like i've said, just to teleport from one place to another, it takes time. So going to another place and teleporting again from that place to come back will take twice as much time if we don't even include the fact of taking those shurikens. What you don't understand is that to throw back things from his dimension, he doesn't teleport to one place to another, no, he only opens a hole from his dimension to our dimension creating a vortex that transfer everything which is located in the place where he creates the hole between the 2 dimension, at least it's how i understood that jutsu. It can't be possible for him to teleport to one place to another that quickly like we see on my picture.

So, the way Obito used kamui to warp black rods or shurikens back and Kakashi's way of using kamui to warp Hachibi back is the same. Obito is not teleporting himself
 

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Like i've said, just to teleport from one place to another, it takes time. So going to another place and teleporting again from that place to come back will take twice as much time if we don't even include the fact of taking those shurikens. What you don't understand is that to throw back things from his dimension, he doesn't teleport to one place to another, no, he only opens a hole from his dimension to our dimension creating a vortex that transfer everything which is located in the place where he creates the hole between the 2 dimension, at least it's how i understood that jutsu. It can't be possible for him to teleport to one place to another that quickly like we see on my picture.

So, the way Obito used kamui to warp black rods or shurikens back and Kakashi's way of using kamui to warp Hachibi back is the same. Obito is not teleporting himself
Bogard are you serious. Yes Teleporting takes type but your exaggerating the time it takes. "To Teleport to the place and teleport back will take twice as much time and don't even include the fact of taking the shuriken" Come on man. You always increase the steps in takes to do something to make it seem time consuming when it truly is not. If i Teleport somewhere half a second and teleport back in half a second. It took me 1 second to do that. Teleporting is the fastest way of travel ever! Look at Minato the fastest Ninja in the series do to his FTG. Obito does not need to take much time grabbing the Shuriken either because he has shown to just touch things and bring it with him. Which is where all this "o if Obito touches you thats the match" comes from. You always trying to exaggerate things by increasing the steps in which it takes. Like what you did with Amaterasu. He has to first close his eyes, then let it bleed, then open his eye, then focus on the target then use the technique." When this whole process is equivalent to just blinking and looking at something. Like I said, Kakashi has 0 knowledge of where the Weapons are.
 
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Bogard are you serious. Yes Teleporting takes type but your exaggerating the time it takes. "To Teleport to the place and teleport back will take twice as much time and don't even include the fact of taking the shuriken" Come on man. You always increase the steps in takes to do something to make it seem time consuming when it truly is not. If i Teleport somewhere half a second and teleport back in half a second. It took me 1 second to do that. Teleporting is the fastest way of travel ever! Look at Minato the fastest Ninja in the series do to his FTG. Obito does not need to take much time grabbing the Shuriken either because he has shown to just touch things and bring it with him. Which is where all this "o if Obito touches you thats the match" comes from. You always trying to exaggerate things but increasing the steps in which it takes. Like what you did with Amaterasu. He has to first close his eyes, then let it bleed, then open his eye, then focus on the target then use the technique." When this whole process is equivalent to just blinking and looking at something. Like I said, Kakashi has 0 knowledge of where the Weapons are.
Well, since your knowledge on kamui seems really limited, i will just ask you one question then. What is the difference between these 2pictures?

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Well, since your knowledge on kamui seems really limited, i will just ask you one question then. What is the difference between these 2pictures?

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I seem limited? I know more on the Technique than you. While Teleporting a Tailed Beast is a Feat the fact remains that he knew where the Hachibi was. He does not know where the Weapons are I have stated this on every post and you keep ignoring it.
 

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I seem limited? I know more on the Technique than you. While Teleporting a Tailed Beast is a Feat the fact remains that he knew where the Hachibi was. He does not know where the Weapons are I have stated this on every post and you keep ignoring it.
So you're saying that Kakashi is teleporting to Hachibi and taking him back out of the dimension after?
 

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So you're saying that Kakashi is teleporting to Hachibi and taking him back out of the dimension after?
See your still ignoring the fact Kakashi does not know where the Weapons are.
 

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See your still ignoring the fact Kakashi does not know where the Weapons are.
Replying to that is not really usefull now since we don't have the same knowledge on the jutsu(Kamui). It's why i wait your answer. What i ask you is very essential to know what's your definition of kamui. It would really help in our debate. Since you think that Obito teleport twice, is it the same thing that Kakashi is doing?
 

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Replying to that is not really usefull now since we don't have the same knowledge on the jutsu(Kamui). It's why i wait your answer. What i ask you is very essential to know what's your definition of kamui. It would really help in our debate. Since you think that Obito teleport twice, is it the same thing that Kakashi is doing?
Exactly No response. That Question has everything to do with the Thread which is about the Technique. Kakashi did not Teleport into the Kamui Dimension to bring out the Hachibi he used Kamui to pull Hachibi out of the Dimension. What I was talking about eariler was that 'If' Obito left anything he could easily Teleport to get it being that Teleporting is the fastest of Transportation. You sadly, can not get over the fact that Kakashi has no knowledge of where Obito has his Weapons so he can not bring thing forth. IF you do not respond to this that "Kakashi has no knowledge of where the Weapons have been placed." Then that puts this discussion to rest. Kakashi can not. If it is not useful to know where the Weapons are then Tell Someone to get you something without telling them where it is.
 

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Exactly No response. That Question has everything to do with the Thread which is about the Technique. Kakashi did not Teleport into the Kamui Dimension to bring out the Hachibi he used Kamui to pull Hachibi out of the Dimension. What I was talking about eariler was that 'If' Obito left anything he could easily Teleport to get it being that Teleporting is the fastest of Transportation. You sadly, can not get over the fact that Kakashi has no knowledge of where Obito has his Weapons so he can not bring thing forth. IF you do not respond to this that "Kakashi has no knowledge of where the Weapons have been placed." Then that puts this discussion to rest. Kakashi can not. If it is not useful to know where the Weapons are then Tell Someone to get you something without telling them where it is.
The bold part is exactly what i'm saying that Obito did. He didn't teleported to take the shurikens like you're saying, no, he just pulled out those shurikens(from his dimension) exactly like Kakashi did with Hachibi, and sadly it's what you're not understanding. He doesn't need to know where those Shurikens are since they are in his dimension, but he would probably have to check to know exactly where they are located in that dimension(since it's huge)
 

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The bold part is exactly what i'm saying that Obito did. He didn't teleported to take the shurikens like you're saying, no, he just pulled out those shurikens(from his dimension) exactly like Kakashi did with Hachibi, and sadly it's what you're not understanding. He doesn't need to know where those Shurikens are since they are in his dimension, but he would probably have to check to know exactly where they are located in that dimension(since it's huge)
Exactly what I am saying. With no knowledge of their Location it can not be found therefore could not be pulled from the Dimension. It's basically that he Can but he Can't. He has the ability to but not the knowledge.
 
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