So Kaguya question.....

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I like to pretend she used a massive amount of Onmyōden against them at one point. And in the Onmyōden were a bunch of Zetsu faces. And she used them like Pride uses his shadows in FMAB. And that she used Mokuton against them, and Rinnegan abilities, and other stuff.
Because I refuse to accept that shitty accident as the last villain's battle.

Someone should make their own version of the fight Lol it cant be worse than the manga
 

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I honestly don't have an answer.
In my mind, Black Zetsu is linked to the Rinnegan. He's a part of the Rinnegan. That's how he tampered with the Sage's Tablet and he was summoned by Madara.

Yeah but he can only control you if he's connected to you. Otherwise he had no way of knowing when or if Madara was gonna summon him.

Just think about the odds of that happening. Black Zetsu said Madara making the White Zetsu was an accident.

Yet Black Zetsu knew exactly when to be summoned.




So does that mean Madara never had Yin-Yang release since he technically did not create anything? That scenario is just so flawed.
 

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Maybe she physically didn't know how. She can have the ability to use them, but not know how.

But that's not true.


Sasuke managed to use Amaterasu and Susanoo without prior knowledge. He used Amaterasu the same day he awakened the MS.
 

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Someone should make their own version of the fight Lol it cant be worse than the manga

Haha I actually did a while back. Not sure if you've read it but please take a look if you're interested.


 

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But that's not true.


Sasuke managed to use Amaterasu and Susanoo without prior knowledge. He used Amaterasu the same day he awakened the MS.

Shit man idk. Lol
Trying to make excuses for Kishi.
 

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Shit man idk. Lol
Trying to make excuses for Kishi.

Yeah I did too, but I think he finally crossed the threshold to where I actually have to say it how it is. Kishi ****ed up big time with this arc.
 

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Kishi will have Kaguya come back as the ten tailed rabbit, make peace with her family, and willingly give the chakra back. The theme of the series is bonds after all. And to hide his laziness with those fight, he'll have her say that she was subconsciously holding back because she was fighting grandchildren.
 
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Maybe she physically didn't know how. She can have the ability to use them, but not know how.

Possibly so...maybe she didnt know about all of these KKG,jutsus because they were created after her time?

Howeever even that is not a good excuse for kishi as we know black zetsu recorded everything and could just advise her...kishi wasted her godlike porential
 

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She can only use all chakra natures and wood style. (weird how it saids wood instead of water....)
 

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Yeah but he can only control you if he's connected to you. Otherwise he had no way of knowing when or if Madara was gonna summon him.

Just think about the odds of that happening. Black Zetsu said Madara making the White Zetsu was an accident.

Yet Black Zetsu knew exactly when to be summoned.




So does that mean Madara never had Yin-Yang release since he technically did not create anything? That scenario is just so flawed.


I think while BZ wasn't Madara's will, he still had a connection to him, most likely granted to Madara by BZ to make him think he had control.

Remember that Edo Madara contacted BZ and told him to go to Obito and wait for his chance.
 

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Having all blood limits isnt having all jutsus.
Uchiha share same KKG but their MS jutsus are usually unique
 

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I think while BZ wasn't Madara's will, he still had a connection to him, most likely granted to Madara by BZ to make him think he had control.

Remember that Edo Madara contacted BZ and told him to go to Obito and wait for his chance.

Exactly, it doesn't make sense.

How would BZ give him any connection?
 

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He said that he didn't care about any but IT. So that shouldn't matter. Hell, he didn't even need to go war just have Kabuto hand Kin and Gin over.
he wanted it revived at it's complete form
 

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Exactly, it doesn't make sense.

How would BZ give him any connection?

Who knows? How does he "record" events? BZ is a mysterious creature. Maybe he approached a sleeping Madara and put that connection in his head?
 

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Who knows? How does he "record" events? BZ is a mysterious creature. Maybe he approached a sleeping Madara and put that connection in his head?



Obito had a piece of Black Zetsu inside of him and he was never able to to telepathically communicate. Black/White Zetsu always had to deliver the message to him personally.
 

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Obito had a piece of Black Zetsu inside of him and he was never able to to telepathically communicate. Black/White Zetsu always had to deliver the message to him personally.



Why do you think Obito had a piece of BZ inside him? Because of the time when Madara tried to force him to revive him? That's not BZ, it's just Madara's chakra taking over through the recievers (the black rods). Madara, Nagato and Obito all used these.

BZ could probably have connected himself to Obito the same way he did with Madara anyway, but apparently he saw no need to do it.
 

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And then later he said that he only cared about casting IT.


And nature KKG. That's why Madara was able to use storm release.
She has that Tenpenchii jutsu, So yeah makes sense.
 
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