Tobirama got jumped by Gin/Kin and 18 other jonin
1. gin and kin were in no way involved in the attack on tobirama by 20 elites. the brothers never had any help
2. they werent jounins.
they actually ambushed him and he survived it.
they attempted a coup on a kage summit and beat tobirama to near death
OT: Shikamaru comes decades after Tobirama's time, he's probably reiterating what he heard but gossip is hardly reliable, and he was wrong anyway
how was he wrong? shikamaru saying tobirama was defeated is consistent with what we know. i love double standards. whenever someone says tobirama lost. they are wrong. whenever someone proclaims itachi invincible, they are infallible
i like how people just lie and make shit up. i mean thats just a straight fukin lie.
Tobirama took them high-diff
no he didnt. he got beaten almost to death as tsunade said.
"The Kinkaku Force" tracked him down whilst Tobirama was with his subordinates, and put a seemingly tired Tobirama in an impossible situation,
lawl you act like both incidents happened close together which you have no evidence of.
No wonder Ino, Shika, Cho took them out. So powerful indeed
they didnt. the actual weapons did. ginkaku got taken off guard by his own cursing sword/rope, and kinkaku got mindraped then sealed in amber pot. darui and ino did all the heavy lifting however.
Kyuubi fodders slaying a Hokage,
they are nowhere near fodder and they didnt kill tobi
i honestly cant imagine tobirama losing that battle.. especially with ftg!
well FTG or not he was left on the brink of death.
more double standards. first its "he was ambushed so its ok". now its "he didnt lose at all because i choose not to accept it"
no he didnt. he caught base ginkaku off guard and didnt do dik against 6 tails
Even Darui was able to beat them comfortably.
it was all he could do to use ginkakus weapons against him using data samui got herself sealed for, even then it was due to luck. and was completely screwed against 6 tails, needing vast reinforcements
I call bullshit. Kin-Gin bros are weak motherf!ckers
they were only ever sotpped by legendary weapons
Kinkaku's Cloaked form was shat on quite easily through fodder-level attacks.
no one even hurt him. wtf is this bullshit your spouting?
No, that was a different occasion. They killed Tobirama again after that.
Basically the gold and silver bros owned him twice.
they only fought tobirama once. you literally just made that bullshit up. a straight up lie with no manga evidence backing it up. when your in a debate, there is no lying. you go by what you see and read in the manga.
No way someone as smart as Tobirama gets bested by them once,
i honestly dont care what you think or believe. the manga states he got beaten to near death
Tobirama actually had to fight them and other elite ninja. Alive. Living.
no he didnt. they never had any help and took on a kage summit alone
Darui used the tools to seal them and he didn't have to fight 20 other ninja at the same time.
no he didnt. an entire division was needed to face kinkaku. and tobirama didnt fight 22 people either
as if that excuses losing. 90% of the fights in this manga were pretty much ambushing
