So it will be Minato, Kakashi, and Gaara vs Rikudou Madara???

[Da Best Ever]

Kakashi's had a ton of practice using kamui. He's probably shot about 10x as many kamuis this arc than he has ever even attempted before in his entire life and this has been in like the span of 24 hours max. Practice makes perfect. By now he'll be shooting it off rapid-fire machinegun-like.

he can only do it 5 times on his the rest was due to the kamui's chakra and regardless HE CANT HIT MADARA WITH IT HE'S TOO DAMN FAST NOW

 

[Da Best Ever]

I cant wait till tuesday night so kakashi can git drugged through the mud

 

[PrinceMyshkin]

Well Obito still had his sharingan while in juubito mode and we know that Juubi jinchuuriki can use rinnegan as well. This means that Doujutsu's aren't restricted/blocked when becoming juubi jinchuuriki's.

Stating that, Obito pretty much said that He is enable to travel through dimensions with the juubi whiten him. This indicates that the juubi is too large/powerful to be able to be transported through dimensions.

Hmmm I went back and reread... I guess I agree with your interpretation now... but I still think Kishi was just being lazy and making sure kamui wouldn't be able to hax the Juubi... Because then the sage didnt even need to be a Jinchuuriki or split the bijuu he could've just sent them to another dimension. Or redeemed Obito could've been like screw it I'm kamui'ing to the other dimension and madara will never be able to reach the juubi... basically just plot to keep it from being beaten easily. But I think you're right that this is how we should understand why he couldn't use kamui.

 

[Aya San]

Maddy roflstomp while strolling

 

[PrinceMyshkin]

I cant wait till tuesday night so kakashi can git drugged through the mud

I was joking. Honestly him receiving Kurama's chakra still doesn't explain how many kamuis he used... IMO it is just Kakashi stepping up his game and surpassing Minato. I mean the younger generation has to surpass the previous gen.

Kakashi is way too important to get wrecked too hard. He's basically the only interesting character who is still "alive" and a good guy.

 

[Flawž]

Hmmm I went back and reread... I guess I agree with your interpretation now... but I still think Kishi was just being lazy and making sure kamui wouldn't be able to hax the Juubi... Because then the sage didnt even need to be a Jinchuuriki or split the bijuu he could've just sent them to another dimension. Or redeemed Obito could've been like screw it I'm kamui'ing to the other dimension and madara will never be able to reach the juubi... basically just plot to keep it from being beaten easily. But I think you're right that this is how we should understand why he couldn't use kamui.

Yea kishi restricted obito because he would be too OP if he was able to kamui himself.
I think this works well for kishi because he doesn't have to worry about countering kamui from kakashi or obito.

 

[Avinash012]

kamui doesn't work on juubi jinchuuriki's because of the fact that the juubi cannot travel through dimensions.

Kamui wont work on Juubi jins.

Juubi's jin being unable to use Kamui and Kamui being ineffective against Juubi's jinchuriki are completly different things.Kamui most likely works on Madara unless he pulls an unknown jutsu to stop it.

 

[From the Dark Spire]

Kamui snipe GG.

Do you all even pay attention to the words on the manga? Ninjutsu doesn't, DOES NOT, work on the juubi's jinchurriki.... Like other people said, Madara would sense the build up, just as Obito sensed the build up in Sasuke's left eye for Amaterasu and blocked it. Madara won't be defeated so easily.

 

[Avinash012]

kamui is useless unless madara sits still, speed>kamui and juubidara's speed will be unmatched, and he can kill kakashi and gaara with one jutsu each

Pretty sure Madara is not that much careful about his opponents especially when he thinks they are too weak though I don't think Madara would be defeated that easily.


Ot:I hope they'll run away from there.

 

[PrinceMyshkin]

Do you all even pay attention to the words on the manga? Ninjutsu doesn't, DOES NOT, work on the juubi's jinchurriki.... Like other people said, Madara would sense the build up, just as Obito sensed the build up in Sasuke's left eye for Amaterasu and blocked it. Madara won't be defeated so easily.

What's actually funny about the Sasuke amaterasu attack on Madara... Madara did not have Rinnegan powers at that point. Hashi and Naruto tell Sasuke it's pointless to throw ninjutsu at him because they think he still has the Rinnegan... However if you go back and pay attention closely Madara loses his eyes when he regains his real body. That is why his eyes were closed. That is also why instead of absorbing amaterasu he throws off his shirt... Basically Madara could've easily been killed there, but you know PNJ....

 

[Ovan]

Funnest part. You forgot about Sakura.

 

[Avinash012]

Funnest part. You forgot about Sakura.

Once again she'll go back to useless unit.

 

[Flawž]

Juubi's jin being unable to use Kamui and Kamui being ineffective against Juubi's jinchuriki are completly different things.Kamui most likely works on Madara unless he pulls an unknown jutsu to stop it.

Kamui sends the person to another dimension.

Juubi cannot travel through dimensions

Kamui = useless against Juubi jins.

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[Avinash012]

Kamui sends the person to another dimension.

Juubi cannot travel through dimensions

Kamui = useless against Juubi jins.

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So what Tobirama performed on Obito is not a teleportation jutsu then?

 

[Flawž]

So what Tobirama performed on Obito is not a teleportation jutsu then?

Tobirama used FTG which teleported obito whiten the same dimension. (earth)

Kamui would need to send the person to another dimension which the juubi cannot travel to. (kamui land)

FTG = Whiten The real world (no traveling through dimensions needed)

Kamui = Another dimension (Needs to send the person to kamui land)

Juubi jin's cannot travel through dimensions which is how kamui works..

 

[Avinash012]

Tobirama used FTG which teleported obito in withen the same dimension.

Kamui would need to send the person to another dimension which the juubi cannot travel to.

FTG = Whiten The real world

Kamui = Another dimension

Juubi jin's cannot travel through dimensions which is how kamui works..

Every teleportation jutsu uses another dimension.

Minato made Juubi's TBB disappear in

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.Minato keep that TBB in another dimension b/w those two events unless u think it took that much time for Minato to teleport it to other location or Minato made it fly like a bird for some time then sent it to Kunai's location.If FTG uses same dimension then how can it be a teleportation jutsu?

 

[Oblivionx]

it will be a very good fight if minato doesn't get dragged by emotions, i mean he just keeps worrying about naruto and doesn't even try to fight madara and that way they will be eliminated one by one with minato being the last....! i just hope we see that killing intent minato then it will be the best fight in the manga....! and kamui cann't transport entire jubi but it can blow madara's head off just like kakashi was about to do with mazo's head and then jubi too....! but obviously madara's speed and plot won't allow them to kill him yet because that has to be done by naruto and sasuke....!