[Discussion] So, it was Katsuyu after all. And Naruto was expecting Gamabunta?

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In this chapter I could deduce that the Kuchiyose no Jutsu summons the first summon that is able to fight and meets the chakra requirement used by the summoner.

I could see a Sasuke summoned Aoda, a new snake summon. And this summon treats him like "Sasuke-sama", so it seems the Snakes don't feel hatred towards a Sasuke that used Manda as a shield. Cold-blooded *****es xD.

I could see a Naruto who was expecting to summon Gamabunta, and got surprised the first toad meet the requirement was Gamakichi. This means Gamabunta is busy somewhere else... It seems like Kishimoto is hinting something here.

I could see a Sakura who summoned Katsuyu. This summon meet the requirement, "it was not busy"... Tsunade wasn't using Katsuyu anymore. This is another hint given by Kishimoto.

Conclusions:

- Snakes are cold-blooded, Sasuke-sama.
- There could a toad summoner somewhere that could be using Gamabunta.
- There is the possibility that Tsunade is in the verge of death, without enough chakra to keep using Katsuyu, and/or she wasn't able to completly heal the other kages.

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What do you think guys?
 

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I think Aoda said sama just because Sasuke is higher up than him. Remember Sasuke was able to summon Manda, king of the snakes or whatever. So this Aoda snake is lower in rank, this is saying sama because Sasuke is basically higher in rank since he was using the boss snake as a summon.

And yeah I always knew Naruto never meant to summon Gamakichi, he always summons gamabunta. Seems the first summon available with the chakra requirements like you said is how it works. But that doesn't mean gamabunta is summoned somewhere else, he could just be getting food or something or not at mount myoboku, just how ma wasn't there when pain attacked konoha. No one else can summon toads, it is not foreshadowing anything.

I don't know what to say about Katsuyu, she should have been by Tsunade. We know Katsuyu didn't heal Tsunade, since Orochimaru said she doesn't look so good. So maybe after healing the other kages Katsuyu disappeared because of not enough chakra, I don't see how it could be any other way, Tsunade wouldn't just unsummon her in that situation herself. That's kind of a **** move though...Katsuyu starts healing Tsunade then disappears right after because she doesn't have enough chakra lol. Or Sakura stole her away from Tsunade, which I don't think is right either since Katsuyu didn't seem surprised or angry to be taken away from Tsunade.
 

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Conclusion: Sakura just ****ed over the five kages.

What a *****.
 

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I think this is perfect!
Who else can summon frogs? Jiraya!
As far as sasuke ... i think he is trying to gain the ten tails power ....
 

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I think Gamakichi is Naruto's toad summon from this moment on. Minato and Jiraiya both used Gamabunta so makes sense for Naruto to get Gamakichi. Plus I think Gamabunta decided to send Gamakichi for that reason.

Katsuyu can multiply into smaller versions but it makes sense that these smaller versions might be able to grow, meaning there might be more than 1 mega-sized Katsuyu.

Sasuke's new snake is awesome, if awkward... That's all I got...

All in all, this battle looks like its going to be fun when its released in the summer of 2020 when these fillers stop...
 

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I think Gamakichi is Naruto's toad summon from this moment on. Minato and Jiraiya both used Gamabunta so makes sense for Naruto to get Gamakichi. Plus I think Gamabunta decided to send Gamakichi for that reason.

Katsuyu can multiply into smaller versions but it makes sense that these smaller versions might be able to grow, meaning there might be more than 1 mega-sized Katsuyu.

Sasuke's new snake is awesome, if awkward... That's all I got...

All in all, this battle looks like its going to be fun when its released in the summer of 2020 when these fillers stop...

LOL, sigh, so true, so true. Like come on anime, you are so far behind already, ****ing show Edo Madara already.
 

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I think Aoda said sama just because Sasuke is higher up than him. Remember Sasuke was able to summon Manda, king of the snakes or whatever. So this Aoda snake is lower in rank, this is saying sama because Sasuke is basically higher in rank since he was using the boss snake as a summon.

And yeah I always knew Naruto never meant to summon Gamakichi, he always summons gamabunta. Seems the first summon available with the chakra requirements like you said is how it works. But that doesn't mean gamabunta is summoned somewhere else, he could just be getting food or something or not at mount myoboku, just how ma wasn't there when pain attacked konoha. No one else can summon toads, it is not foreshadowing anything.

I don't know what to say about Katsuyu, she should have been by Tsunade. We know Katsuyu didn't heal Tsunade, since Orochimaru said she doesn't look so good. So maybe after healing the other kages Katsuyu disappeared because of not enough chakra, I don't see how it could be any other way, Tsunade wouldn't just unsummon her in that situation herself. That's kind of a **** move though...Katsuyu starts healing Tsunade then disappears right after because she doesn't have enough chakra lol. Or Sakura stole her away from Tsunade, which I don't think is right either since Katsuyu didn't seem surprised or angry to be taken away from Tsunade.

She couldn't have just been taken away...if that was the case Gamabunta would've have just been taken away. :|

So no, Sakura did not **** over the kages.
 

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She couldn't have just been taken away...if that was the case Gamabunta would've have just been taken away. :|

So no, Sakura did not **** over the kages.

Yeah I know, it would have been funny though really. Katsuyu would have been like WTF YOU KILLED TSUNADE. or something like that. Lol

For the record, you can't summon a summon that is not in their home base. If a toad isn't in Mt.Myoboku you can't summon them, same with snake land and slug land.
 

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I think Aoda said sama just because Sasuke is higher up than him. Remember Sasuke was able to summon Manda, king of the snakes or whatever. So this Aoda snake is lower in rank, this is saying sama because Sasuke is basically higher in rank since he was using the boss snake as a summon.

And yeah I always knew Naruto never meant to summon Gamakichi, he always summons gamabunta. Seems the first summon available with the chakra requirements like you said is how it works. But that doesn't mean gamabunta is summoned somewhere else, he could just be getting food or something or not at mount myoboku, just how ma wasn't there when pain attacked konoha. No one else can summon toads, it is not foreshadowing anything.

I don't know what to say about Katsuyu, she should have been by Tsunade. We know Katsuyu didn't heal Tsunade, since Orochimaru said she doesn't look so good. So maybe after healing the other kages Katsuyu disappeared because of not enough chakra, I don't see how it could be any other way, Tsunade wouldn't just unsummon her in that situation herself. That's kind of a **** move though...Katsuyu starts healing Tsunade then disappears right after because she doesn't have enough chakra lol. Or Sakura stole her away from Tsunade, which I don't think is right either since Katsuyu didn't seem surprised or angry to be taken away from Tsunade.

The bold line is what bugs me. I think it's a bit too coincidental... Naruto has summoned Gamabunta in some special times and Gamabunta was ever doing something in Myoboku.
But what you said after makes a lot of sense, maybe Gamabunta wasn't in Myoboku.
 

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i think when the snake said sasuke-sama..it was a typing error lol..
Kidding
anyways..i dont think thats the reason why gambunta wasnt summoned..i guess kishi thought this was the perfect time to show how much gamakichi has grown and how much sakura has grown..and that is why he showed it like that..
 

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The bold line is what bugs me. I think it's a bit too coincidental... Naruto has summoned Gamabunta in some special times and Gamabunta was ever doing something in Myoboku.
But what you said after makes a lot of sense, maybe Gamabunta wasn't in Myoboku.

Yea I remember that time he was eating or something and yelled at Naruto for summoning him. It is a little weird. Gamakichi said he was busy, what the hell could be more important than saving the world from the Juubi lol. Could just be Kishi wanting to show Gamakichi's growth though, but who the **** cares about Gamakichi anyway though.
 

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In this chapter I could deduce that the Kuchiyose no Jutsu summons the first summon that is able to fight and meets the chakra requirement used by the summoner.

I could see a Sasuke summoned Aoda, a new snake summon. And this summon treats him like "Sasuke-sama", so it seems the Snakes don't feel hatred towards a Sasuke that used Manda as a shield. Cold-blooded *****es xD.

I could see a Naruto who was expecting to summon Gamabunta, and got surprised the first toad meet the requirement was Gamakichi. This means Gamabunta is busy somewhere else... It seems like Kishimoto is hinting something here.

I could see a Sakura who summoned Katsuyu. This summon meet the requirement, "it was not busy"... Tsunade wasn't using Katsuyu anymore. This is another hint given by Kishimoto.

Conclusions:

- Snakes are cold-blooded, Sasuke-sama.
- There could a toad summoner somewhere that could be using Gamabunta.
- There is the possibility that Tsunade is in the verge of death, without enough chakra to keep using Katsuyu, and/or she wasn't able to completly heal the other kages.

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What do you think guys?

I was thinking the same thing after reading today's chapter. It's possible that Tsunade's already dead and maybe someone else will summon Gamabunta. ;)
I'm wondering what is Orochimaru going to do in the next chapter....I'm
 
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I don't know what to say about Katsuyu, she should have been by Tsunade. We know Katsuyu didn't heal Tsunade, since Orochimaru said she doesn't look so good. So maybe after healing the other kages Katsuyu disappeared because of not enough chakra, I don't see how it could be any other way, Tsunade wouldn't just unsummon her in that situation herself. That's kind of a **** move though...Katsuyu starts healing Tsunade then disappears right after because she doesn't have enough chakra lol. Or Sakura stole her away from Tsunade, which I don't think is right either since Katsuyu didn't seem surprised or angry to be taken away from Tsunade.

As far as Katsuyu, Sakura couldn't have "stolen" Katsuyu if Katsuyu were busy, like Naruto got Gamakichi when he was expecting Gamabunta. Sakura being able to summon Katsuyu means that Katsuyu wasn't occupied with Tsunade anymore, likely because Tsunade gave the order to heal the other kage's and not bother with herself and Tsunade may be trying to use her own chakra on herself. I'm just speculating here.
 

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Conclusion: Sakura just ****ed over the five kages.

What a *****.

right it's like, Tsunade: I think I can make it katsuyu, just one more minute of healing (meanwhile sakura summons her); tsunade is like $#!T xd
 

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Gamabunta didn't want to get raped again after the Pain invasion arc lol. I assume Katsuyu finished first aid on the Gokage, including Tsunade, so she would've been unsummoned after that and Sakura could summon her. It would be a **** move by Oro if he made fun of Tsunade if she was still split in half or something lol, she probably just looks old or something.
 
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Agreed, it great Naruto summoned Gamakichi but I wonder what exactly is keeping Gamabunta busy
 

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I could see a Naruto who was expecting to summon Gamabunta, and got surprised the first toad meet the requirement was Gamakichi. This means Gamabunta is busy somewhere else... It seems like Kishimoto is hinting something here.

Naruto always attempts to summon Gamabunta only to end up with Gamakichi XD Kuchiyose will always have a surprising result for Naruto I guess :yay:
 

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just a thought. when the third said the sanin are back could he had meant the original 3. gamabunta reason for being busy could be he s with ole jariya boy
 
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