[Discussion] So it is going to be true about Kenny and Ichigo

[KingHashirama]

Atlas, the ones who in their match made a draw, and had not unlocked their potentials. The ones treated with the highest regards. The ones who survived brutal battles. Ichigo and Kenpachi.

So now that Ichigo has unlocked his "potential" I'm starting to believe more that by the end they will be equals. Notice how Ichigo was equal to Kenpachi , and vice verse. Sure we have Kenpachi saying " you won" to Ichigo, while Ichigo was literally Knocked out. But it doesn't change the fact that in a fighting judgement it was a Tie. Why? Kenny-boy got his sword smashed, and Ichigo was knocked out.

Ichigo lost to Renji and Byakuya and then won against them. However he has only tied with Kenpachi. Kenpachi was also the only Shinigami who was on Ichigo's level, but hadn't unlocked his true potential and power, just like Ichigo.


So this whole basic set up by Kubo is starting to make me think that in the end these 2 will be the strongest of all.

Zaraki The Warrior.
Ichigo The Savior.

What do you think, will they be equals?

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[Ōkami]

I could see it.

Maybe Kenpachi would want a death match.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Depends on what his shikai and bankai can do.

 

[KingHashirama]

I could see it.

Maybe Kenpachi would want a death match.

Ichigo would run away. V_V

Depends on what his shikai and bankai can do.

Well considering he soloed a high level captain easily without those 2. X_X . I think we can assume no matter what they are , they are gonna amplify his strength.

 

[Ōkami]

Ichigo would run away. V_V

......Very true.

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

Depends on what his ichigo's bankai can do......

 

[ssiddiq78]

at the end after kicking quincy ass kenny would like to duel ichigo

 

[naruto005]

I think so too. wed luv to see them in a death match myself.

 

[kunde]

Atlas, the ones who in their match made a draw, and had not unlocked their potentials. The ones treated with the highest regards. The ones who survived brutal battles. Ichigo and Kenpachi.

So now that Ichigo has unlocked his "potential" I'm starting to believe more that by the end they will be equals. Notice how Ichigo was equal to Kenpachi , and vice verse. Sure we have Kenpachi saying " you won" to Ichigo, while Ichigo was literally Knocked out. But it doesn't change the fact that in a fighting judgement it was a Tie. Why? Kenny-boy got his sword smashed, and Ichigo was knocked out.

Ichigo lost to Renji and Byakuya and then won against them. However he has only tied with Kenpachi. Kenpachi was also the only Shinigami who was on Ichigo's level, but hadn't unlocked his true potential and power, just like Ichigo.


So this whole basic set up by Kubo is starting to make me think that in the end these 2 will be the strongest of all.

Zaraki The Warrior.
Ichigo The Savior.

What do you think, will they be equals?

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u r right ...n wait until u see all the captains bankai ...n u forgot to add ishida ...he's also going to get new power up

 

[TheHokage]

No...just no...Ichigo has the potential to become a transcended being that surpasses the power of a Shinigami and a hollow.

Kenpachi is given to the name of the strongest Shinigami right?...Even if he does get his bankai Kenpachi won't be on the level of Ichigo when he's transcended.

 

[tossmidgetsenpai]

it all depends on ichigo's zanpaktou but i would expect him to be the strongest character dont underestimate kenpachi he's gonna be bad ass

 

[KingHashirama]

No...just no...Ichigo has the potential to become a transcended being that surpasses the power of a Shinigami and a hollow.

Kenpachi is given to the name of the strongest Shinigami right?...Even if he does get his bankai Kenpachi won't be on the level of Ichigo when he's transcended.

Mate Kenpachi scared Yamamoto himself with his raw potential. o-o

 

[TheHokage]

Mate Kenpachi scared Yamamoto himself with his raw potential. o-o

Still doesn't change the fact Kenpachi is still a Shinigami, a transcended being is stronger than any Shinigami.

Transcended Aizen and Dangai Ichigo > Kenpachi.

You can't just start making stuff up to suit your beliefs, it's been proven and stated that there are limits as a Shinigami however transcended beings don't have these.

The reason I'm calling bull on what your saying is for two reasons.

1) As I mentioned any transcended being is stronger than any Shinigami, Quincy or Hollow and there's no doubt in my mind Ichigo will reach that transcended state again making him top dog once again.

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Manga > You're opinion... It was clearly stated a transcended being destroys the border of Shinigami and Hollow powers there for still being stronger than Kenpachi since he is still only a Shinigami

2) The other reason is because in any thread with Kenpachi your opinion should be classed as invalid since your bias, take this thread for example

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You clearly state Kenpachi has always been ahead of Ichigo obviously ignoring Dangai Ichigo's state in favor of you're bias opinion.

The reality is Kenpachi is not a Main character he is a side character same as Byakuya, Renji and everyone else.

Ichigo however is the main character with a greater potential than Kenpachi ignoring the fact he has three of the great powers in him is just delusional not to mention Kenpachi will be at the level to defeat the right hand man to whoever the main enemy is not the main enemy whoever that maybe.

Ichigo's job has always been to defeat the main guy in each arc and this one will be no different say it's Juhabach's the main enemy Kenpachi will not be able to beat him that job will be left to Ichigo as Juhabach with Yama's bankai is still on a complete different level to Kenpachi, assuming Kenpachi has become some god because he finally knows his Zanpaktou's name is ridiculous.

Just because you like a certain side character more doesn't mean he's going to match the main character it's always been like this.

By the end of the series it will turn out like this...

Main Character (Ichigo) > Main Enemy (Juhabach...still not convinced he'll be the final enemy) > Side Character (Kenpachi, Renji etc.)

 

[KingHashirama]

Still doesn't change the fact Kenpachi is still a Shinigami, a transcended being is stronger than any Shinigami.

Transcended Aizen and Dangai Ichigo > Kenpachi.

You can't just start making stuff up to suit your beliefs, it's been proven and stated that there are limits as a Shinigami however transcended beings don't have these.

The reason I'm calling bull on what your saying is for two reasons.

1) As I mentioned any transcended being is stronger than any Shinigami, Quincy or Hollow and there's no doubt in my mind Ichigo will reach that transcended state again making him top dog once again.

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Manga > You're opinion... It was clearly stated a transcended being destroys the border of Shinigami and Hollow powers there for still being stronger than Kenpachi since he is still only a Shinigami

2) The other reason is because in any thread with Kenpachi your opinion should be classed as invalid since your bias, take this thread for example

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You clearly state Kenpachi has always been ahead of Ichigo obviously ignoring Dangai Ichigo's state in favor of you're bias opinion.

The reality is Kenpachi is not a Main character he is a side character same as Byakuya, Renji and everyone else.

Ichigo however is the main character with a greater potential than Kenpachi ignoring the fact he has three of the great powers in him is just delusional not to mention Kenpachi will be at the level to defeat the right hand man to whoever the main enemy is not the main enemy whoever that maybe.

Ichigo's job has always been to defeat the main guy in each arc and this one will be no different say it's Juhabach's the main enemy Kenpachi will not be able to beat him that job will be left to Ichigo as Juhabach with Yama's bankai is still on a complete different level to Kenpachi, assuming Kenpachi has become some god because he finally knows his Zanpaktou's name is ridiculous.

Just because you like a certain side character more doesn't mean he's going to match the main character it's always been like this.

By the end of the series it will turn out like this...

Main Character (Ichigo) > Main Enemy (Juhabach...still not convinced he'll be the final enemy) > Side Character (Kenpachi, Renji etc.)

Kenpachi vs Juha Bach will most likely be the match. While on the other hand its Ichigo vs Aizen again.

And Ichigo himself is a shinigami.. And what does breaking the barrier between hollow and shinigami have anything to do with power? Wth......

 

[kunde]

Still doesn't change the fact Kenpachi is still a Shinigami, a transcended being is stronger than any Shinigami.

Transcended Aizen and Dangai Ichigo > Kenpachi.

You can't just start making stuff up to suit your beliefs, it's been proven and stated that there are limits as a Shinigami however transcended beings don't have these.

The reason I'm calling bull on what your saying is for two reasons.

1) As I mentioned any transcended being is stronger than any Shinigami, Quincy or Hollow and there's no doubt in my mind Ichigo will reach that transcended state again making him top dog once again.

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Manga > You're opinion... It was clearly stated a transcended being destroys the border of Shinigami and Hollow powers there for still being stronger than Kenpachi since he is still only a Shinigami

2) The other reason is because in any thread with Kenpachi your opinion should be classed as invalid since your bias, take this thread for example

You must be registered for see links

You clearly state Kenpachi has always been ahead of Ichigo obviously ignoring Dangai Ichigo's state in favor of you're bias opinion.

The reality is Kenpachi is not a Main character he is a side character same as Byakuya, Renji and everyone else.

Ichigo however is the main character with a greater potential than Kenpachi ignoring the fact he has three of the great powers in him is just delusional not to mention Kenpachi will be at the level to defeat the right hand man to whoever the main enemy is not the main enemy whoever that maybe.

Ichigo's job has always been to defeat the main guy in each arc and this one will be no different say it's Juhabach's the main enemy Kenpachi will not be able to beat him that job will be left to Ichigo as Juhabach with Yama's bankai is still on a complete different level to Kenpachi, assuming Kenpachi has become some god because he finally knows his Zanpaktou's name is ridiculous.

Just because you like a certain side character more doesn't mean he's going to match the main character it's always been like this.

By the end of the series it will turn out like this...

Main Character (Ichigo) > Main Enemy (Juhabach...still not convinced he'll be the final enemy) > Side Character (Kenpachi, Renji etc.)

transcended beings does hav a limit boss... thats y ichigo n aizen lost their powers (wel aizen theoritically may hav not lost his powers but went as far as he can)

 

[TheHokage]

transcended beings does hav a limit boss... thats y ichigo n aizen lost their powers (wel aizen theoritically may hav not lost his powers but went as far as he can)

Aizen never lost his powers and Ichigo only lost his because he used a move that specifically took away his powers it has nothing to do with him coming to his limits. Not to mention no Shinigami will be as strong as those 2.

 

[TheHokage]

Kenpachi vs Juha Bach will most likely be the match. While on the other hand its Ichigo vs Aizen again.

And Ichigo himself is a shinigami.. And what does breaking the barrier between hollow and shinigami have anything to do with power? Wth......

Ichigo is still not fully a Shinigami, he still has his hollow and Quincy powers, and the whole breaking of barriers is a point where all pure Shinigami's have a limit meaning they reach a point where they can't get stronger, however Ichigo does not have this problem.

It's simple common sense = Transcended being > (Shinigami, Hollow, Quincy)

Also I hope we don't see Juha vs Kenpachi and if we do I hope Kenpachi loses since Juha is an enemy who shouldn't be taken out by a side character it would be stupid. Plus Ichigo vs Aizen...again come on that's boring I'd rather see Ichigo vs Soul King if anything.

However it's going to be likely (Ichigo vs Juhabach) as the final battle.

 

[kunde]

Aizen never lost his powers and Ichigo only lost his because he used a move that specifically took away his powers it has nothing to do with him coming to his limits. Not to mention no Shinigami will be as strong as those 2.

if wat u r saying is true then their fight wouldn't hav ended so early ...AT THAT POINT ichigo's limit was FGT ...he couldn't go beyond that ....as for aizen it seems u didnt read wat i've written in bracket ...m nt saying aizen lost his powers ...m saying aizen's last form was his limit ...

 

[Fodder#4]

I hope not. I despise Ichigo's character. I always had. And Kenpachi is a straight up G! Holding back more and more every fight and then using the seal to weaken him even more? All without a Shikai transformation?!

Kenpachi is going to solo the Juubi.

 

[TheHokage]

if wat u r saying is true then their fight wouldn't hav ended so early ...AT THAT POINT ichigo's limit was FGT ...he couldn't go beyond that ....as for aizen it seems u didnt read wat i've written in bracket ...m nt saying aizen lost his powers ...m saying aizen's last form was his limit ...

It was only his limit because the Hogyoku rejected him if that never happened Aizen would have still battled, Aizen was only a transcended being when he had the Hogyoku and the moment it rejected him he became vulnerable to normal shinigami attacks it's why Urahara clearly stated once Aizen transformed nothing would be able to effect him that any Shinigami could do the only thing that could match him was another transcended being namely Ichigo and he was way above Aizen he could destroy Aizen's kido and sword attacks with his bare hands.

Finally to my point Kenpachi will be insanely lucky to reach the level of power Aizen had I still doubt he will however Ichigo's potential is far more than Kenpachi don't you think the soul king the one's who's interested in Ichigo because of his power would also be interested in Kenpachi if he had the same potential.

Anyway it's your choice to believe Kenpachi will be evenly matched with Ichigo at the end, it's the wrong choice but none the less you're choice, I've grown tired of arguing with Kenpachi fanboys who overrate him just know if you continue with your belief that at the end Kenpachi will be the same strength as Ichigo you'll be heavily disappointed.