So, if Nagato still sealed in the Totsuka blade?

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Lol ppl Manga is over and some of u didn't even releaze obvious things, what the ****. Ofc Orochimaru never was sealed, he escaped and got killed by Amaterasu. He has just one soul not 176472816372x Lol.when he got resurected his hands was still sealed, and he got them back from RDS before he revived Hokages, Tatsuka seals souls,if Orochimaru really got sealed that time he would never come back from Curse Mark w/o fcking soul and don't be fcking dumb idiots!
 
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Yet no one in this thread mentioned how Nagato is sealed in Totsuka in a drunken state forever. So it's not a bad fate and he's not going to be in any pain or torment. He's just going to always be drunk. Probably listening to The Weeknd or Young Thug
 

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this is why its so hard to post threads, ppl take what characters say out of context, and then make up their own details. Not referring to anyone in particular.
 

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Sword of Totsuka is different. As a Spirit Weapon its distictive characteristic is that nothing it Seals can become unsealed.

And kishi broke that dude. whats so hard to understand.
 

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That's the new body spawning. It wasn't a doorway. "Resurrecting" doesn't mean Orochimaru was released.

Thats exactly what it means there is no new body bro. He was released.

Nothing supports your theory.

You can clearly see his body coming out of the snake which came out of the curse. There are ways around seals. Oro had a way, he knew he would get resurrected.

Resurrect means to restore, bring back to life, revive. This isnt a NEW orochimaru. Its the old same one.
 
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Thats exactly what it means there is no new body bro. He was released.

Nothing supports your theory.

You can clearly see his body coming out of the snake which came out of the curse. There are ways around seals. Oro had a way, he knew he would get resurrected.

Resurrect means to restore, bring back to life, revive. This isnt a NEW orochimaru. Its the old same one.

I bet you think the Minato Naruto met in his head was the same Minato who was revived, too.
 

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Its not a copy, its the actual Orochimaru. Hes able to escape through his power bound in the curses.

Yo put it simply, he was connected to this world and Sasuke opened the door.

Other guys explanation made far more sense
 

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Yet no one in this thread mentioned how Nagato is sealed in Totsuka in a drunken state forever. So it's not a bad fate and he's not going to be in any pain or torment. He's just going to always be drunk. Probably listening to The Weeknd or Young Thug

Nah no pein just a room flat screen tv video games a infinte mini fridge shit tons of pizza hooker and .... a giant 180ft tall seven headed snake husk
 

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Other guys explanation made far more sense

He doesn't understand that this is basically real life cloning.

Orochimaru's soul/consciousness is split between his body and every curse seal he made. When Orochimaru was sealed within the Totsuka Blade, his main soul/consciousness was sealed away forever. That was the soul of the Orochimaru we had followed since his debut in the manga. Gone. Forever.

Then Sasuke pulled a new soul/consciousness out of Anko's curse mark. Now we have an entirely new soul and consciousness that is fundamentally identical to the original, even with the same memories. But it will never be exactly the same soul.

TLDR: Cloning me and giving that clone my memories does not mean I have been "resurrected" by any means.
 

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Totsuka seals you into a genjutsu-like world of drunken dreams forever.
 

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He doesn't understand that this is basically real life cloning.

Orochimaru's soul/consciousness is split between his body and every curse seal he made. When Orochimaru was sealed within the Totsuka Blade, his main soul/consciousness was sealed away forever. That was the soul of the Orochimaru we had followed since his debut in the manga. Gone. Forever.

Then Sasuke pulled a new soul/consciousness out of Anko's curse mark. Now we have an entirely new soul and consciousness that is fundamentally identical to the original, even with the same memories. But it will never be exactly the same soul.

TLDR: Cloning me and giving that clone my memories does not mean I have been "resurrected" by any means.

Yeah, I comprehend. The other guy doesn't use the same course of logic unfortunately.
 

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He doesn't understand that this is basically real life cloning.

Orochimaru's soul/consciousness is split between his body and every curse seal he made. When Orochimaru was sealed within the Totsuka Blade, his main soul/consciousness was sealed away forever. That was the soul of the Orochimaru we had followed since his debut in the manga. Gone. Forever.

Then Sasuke pulled a new soul/consciousness out of Anko's curse mark. Now we have an entirely new soul and consciousness that is fundamentally identical to the original, even with the same memories. But it will never be exactly the same soul.

TLDR: Cloning me and giving that clone my memories does not mean I have been "resurrected" by any means.

The curse marks couls also be doors that all links to Orochimaru's soul.
Sasuke open the door and allowed Orochimaru's soul to escape from totsuka dimension.
Remember that Orochimaru is able to create dimensions, he must have found a way to link dimensions.
 

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part of him is sealed

Orochimaru escaped the totsuka blade in the form of a snake.
that snake body then died in the flames of amaterasu.

The Curse Marks were like Horocruxes. A piece of Orochimaru's consciousness separate from the one in his main body was inside. Sasuke bonded that consciousness to some of Kabuto's flesh to recreate his body. The process didn't free Orochimaru, it made a copy of his body and bonded a copy of consciousness to it.

you have an individual soul, you can't split it up, and you can't copy it. the logic that i cling to it, though ofcourse it has never been explained, is that if oro legitimately would've been sealed by the totsuka blade that summoning him from a cursed seal wouldn't work, cause he's locked up, those cursed seals just keep oros body living to which his soul is connected, basically what sasuke did was sort of edo tensei-like but then with a real living body, wether oro resided in the pure world or the impure world doesn't really matter, as long as he's free.
Again this is how i satisfy myself with logic, this was never been said by kishimoto, he hasn't explained it, but to me he implies something like this, be it consciously or unconsciously, logic leads me to this, only kishi can mess it up.



^^^This. The Edo Contract was canceled so no matter where you are it should release.

his soul is locked in the totsuka blade, that's a little different from a body's movement being restrained by some toilet paper.
 

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Orochimaru escaped the totsuka blade in the form of a snake.
that snake body then died in the flames of amaterasu.



you have an individual soul, you can't split it up, and you can't copy it. the logic that i cling to it, though ofcourse it has never been explained, is that if oro legitimately would've been sealed by the totsuka blade that summoning him from a cursed seal wouldn't work, cause he's locked up, those cursed seals just keep oros body living to which his soul is connected, basically what sasuke did was sort of edo tensei-like but then with a real living body, wether oro resided in the pure world or the impure world doesn't really matter, as long as he's free.
Again this is how i satisfy myself with logic, this was never been said by kishimoto, he hasn't explained it, but to me he implies something like this, be it consciously or unconsciously, logic leads me to this, only kishi can mess it up.





his soul is locked in the totsuka blade, that's a little different from a body's movement being restrained by some toilet paper.

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Orochimaru's words: pieces of my consciousness.
 

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Yet no one in this thread mentioned how Nagato is sealed in Totsuka in a drunken state forever. So it's not a bad fate and he's not going to be in any pain or torment. He's just going to always be drunk. Probably listening to The Weeknd or Young Thug

The worst kind of torture.
 

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The curse marks couls also be doors that all links to Orochimaru's soul.
Sasuke open the door and allowed Orochimaru's soul to escape from totsuka dimension.
Remember that Orochimaru is able to create dimensions, he must have found a way to link dimensions.

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read the manga, this is oro's immortality.
 

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Orochimaru's words: pieces of my consciousness.

splitting up consciousness is one thing, kage bunshin for example, of which the experience then returns to the original when it's undone, splitting up your soul is an entirely different thing.
One guy that brings difficulty to this is the second tsuchikage mũ, who can split himself up in 2 real hims.. however i don't buy it that he split his soul in two as well, the soul is just connecting to both brain antenna, which is also done with kage bunshin, in my mind.
It doesn't make any sense to me to be able to split your soul up.
If oro just could split his soul up in multiple parts in the cursed seals he wouldn't be immortal, he would be copying his soul multiple times and none of those copies will be him, they would be completely different people, if oro 1 would die he's dead, if you can still pull oro2 out of somebodies neck, he's still dead, cause it's different part, seperated from the original, a new person.
 
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