So.....I got the newest issue of VIZ manga today............

[BlinkST]

It's as Minato said:

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Hashirama thought protecting the village no matter what was the solution, but Madara knew this is what will lead to darkness.

 

[Sage OfThe 6 Paths]

Then re-read the translations.

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Hashirama believed the village was the solution to the clan vs. clan wars. It was the solution to protect people. However:

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Madara stated that what caused the village to be created (Protecting people) was not the real solution, and this solution would not put an end to the darkness. Why? Simple:

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The village did not solve the problem of people fighting to protect things. It just shifted it. He admitted that much and believed it was acceptable to make a few sacrifices for the "greater good", but this ended up creating people like Sasuke and Nagato.

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damn wonderful interpretation bro

 

[AlphaScythian]

The cause is the peace/love, the end is war/hate. Hashirama's way would lead to war, is what he meant (something like that)

 

[FearxDeath]

I MADE A THREAD ABOUT THIS A WEEK AGO I COMPLETELY CALLED THIS ONE, HOLY CRAP, I WILL LINK THE THREAD AND QOUTE THE PART THAT RELATES.

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But pay close attention, As Hashirama stands over Madara's dying body and goes on this self righteous rant about how he would do anything to protect the village even if it means killing a friend, Madara smiles and says something very important, "You are mistaking the cause with the end[Effect]", as in cause and effect. What he is trying to say here is that hashirama thinks that the reason he had to kill Madara was to protect the village, but in reality the reason he is now able to protect the village is because he was finally able to kill Madara. And thus Hashirama had mistook the cause with the effect.

He goes on to say that "One day that will become darkness and envelop the village" What does this mean? He is talking about the Uchiha who have been and still are trying to take over Konoha, his words refer to the fact that his death will undoubely make things worst between the Uchiha and Konoha, and that Darkess it creates is going to have a dire effect on the village.

 

[Zavage10]

By far the best thread that I've seen.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Via Weekly Shonen Jump..........


And I have a question for someone who can answer it correctly........

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I just wanted to get your thoughts on it............so I waited for the proper translation to come out before I asked......

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Does anyone know what Madara means exactly?

Specifically, what was the "cause" and what was the "end"?


I have a vague idea, nothing solid. But I am almost certain of what he might mean........



Well.....

Cause - ending the killing and uniting several clans (ally and enemy) in one village to create peace.

End - people won't forgive easily. People in the village will harbour hate and seek justice through revenge.

 

[The God of Wind]

By far the best thread that I've seen.

Hey thanks!

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Better check my iPad for the new release