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It's anti Hianta. I thought I'd post it here. I can't really say I hate Hinata, but this really opened my eyes to what I had been missing about her... I won't further the points by adding to it, but I do agree with this...
And it goes:
"Contrary to popular belief HinataHaters don't blindly hate, we do have reasons for not liking the character Hinata Hyuuga
I'm sure we don't personally agree with all of them but here is the list.
1. She's boring: It's called an "opinion". There isn't much you can do to "correct" it.
2. She has little / no personality
3. Her stuttering. It use to be cute but now its just a time consuming annoyance
4. She comes from a great clan and is still useless.
5. It's rather difficult to not bring up NaruHina while talking about her.
6. Pick a character, any character. Now bash them. Bonus points if it's Sakura. Now suddenly Hinata looks so much better.
7. We must have missed the memo from Kishimoto about her being an important character. According to an interview, even the author himself seems confused.
7. Oh, no. Someone made a tiny little negative comment about her. Let's either make a long post or topic defending her. While we're at it, let's add in a few bits that the "hater" never mentioned.
8. Pairings-sorry, but it does count. No, no, NO! You can not pair her with any character and say it "makes sense". Do you really think Itachi, Kakashi, Genma, whoever likes shy girls? She's not the perfect match for every character.
9. Her flaws (yes, she has them) get ignored or excused. She's shy, submissive and weak
10. On the above mention of only being able to defend Hinata while bashing another character (Most of the time) I wonder if it's possible to defend her without bashing a character or the Anti-fandom?
11. "Hinata is a badass Kunochi that can kick Character's ass!" (If she's so strong then why does she gain filler moves to make things fair for her? I especially question this when concerning Sakura vs Hinata. Adding to that, by saying (for example) she can kick Sakura's ass makes it sound as if you believe Sakura is amazing, because it wouldn't be impressive if Hinata beat a useless character.)
12. No, some of us don't agree that she's a better character then some other character. Especially when said character is called something bad. It's as if you're saying "Well, OK Hinata's a terrible character, but at least she's better then Character".
13. "Don't hate her. She hasn't had a chance to show what she's capable of!" In that case, wouldn't it be easier to base her character on what she has shown? Also, yes, she has had a chance. its been what? 500 chapters and she is just starting to gain bits of confidence and strength? She's a ninja. Why are we cheering for her to do something she should have done years ago? Why are we going "Go, Hinata! She's finally kicking butt in the war!" "It's about time. Hinata is awesome!"?
14. Everything she does is awesome. She could pick her nose, pull out a booger and flick it. Bonus points if the booger hits Sakura and kills her. She's that awesome.
15. We just don't like her. It doesn't have to be explained. We just don't.
16. Hinata deserves to be with Naruto and not to be hated. No, I'm not entirely sure what she did. She just does.
17. No, we're not going to ignore the fact that she watched Naruto from a distance while he suffered alone. Sorry, but it is a "What the hell, Hinata?" moment.
18. If it's perfectly OK to love her, despite her being a fictional character then we're allowed to hate her, despite her being a fictional character.
19. It's great that Naruto is her motivation and all that, but some of us think it's time she moved foward. It's like Naruto's her crutch and she can't walk without him. BTW, if Naruto is her inspiration way earlier in the manga and she's just starting to show signs of becoming a capable Kunochi in recent manga chapters then it doesn't seem as if liking him has done much for her.
20. Some of us liked her or were just fine with her-until we came across her fandom. Yes, we shouldn't hate a character based on their fans, but sometimes exceptions can be made especially once coming into contact with Hinatards.
21. Some of us don't believe she's changed all that much after her confession. She became awesome and then was back being a wall flower.
22. Some of us don't actually hate her. Fan or not, we're just disappointed or annoyed about some aspect of her character. Seriously, before you label someone a hater not everyone loves everything about their favourite character.
23. It gets really annoying to read the whole of Konoha getting bashed for "sitting on their butts" during Naruto's fight with Pain while Hinata tried to save him. Never mind the fact that the filler shows the moment to be close to an hour long while in the manga it was a meer minute also her actions could have caused Kyubi to destroy Konoha if it wasn't for Minato's back up plan. So, no, we don't believe she deserves credit for saving Naruto.
24. Everyone in the village, except Hinata, didn't know who Naruto really was. They never really bothered. But, wait. Hinata didn't know him that well and she didn't get to know him either. Sorry, but watching someone train after being upset that you have, once again, given up is not "knowing someone".
25. Are we seriously the only ones who thinks it's bad that Hinata shows more concern for a guy she hardly interacts with as supposed to her whole clan (especially her father, little sister and cousin), her teammates, Kurenai and the whole of Konoha?
-Has she ever wanted to improve herself to gain back her right as clan heir?
-Apart from offering Kiba medical cream and worrying about Shino is his Chunnin fight, when was the last time she showed concern for her team?
-Does little Hanabi even exists anymore? Why isn't Hinata shown acting like a big caring sister?
-During the Forest of Death Team 8 has a run-in with the Sand Siblings and are almost crushed by Gaara's sand. The FoD is said to be a deadly place, so they're very shaken with their near-death experience. Skip to later on and every Rookie has made it safely. Que Hinata being glad Naruto made it as supposed to anyone else making it safely. Seriously, Hinata, the forest is a death trap and your only concern is Naruto?
-Kiba vs Naruto: You seriously can't decide who to cheer for, Hinata? You clearly wanted to cheer for Naruto, as it seems as the only reason you'd cheer for Kiba is because you feel as if you had to.
-The second Chunnin fight: Genma explains that unless he stops the match, this round contains no rules. Opponents are now allowed to kill one another. Hinata herself and one of her teammates, Kiba, didn't make it to the second battle round. Naruto, Hinata's admiration, and Shino, Hinata's other teammate do. Que Hinata being more concerned for Naruto then Shino.
26. "Naruto-kun!" "I have to get to get strong for Naruto-kun." "I'll do my best for Naruto-kun" "N-naruto-kun" "This war is about protecting Naruto-kun." "NARUTO-KUN!" "Clan? who are they? Where is Naruto-kun?" "I have teammates? I want to stand by Naruto-kun's side." "I must leave my guard's side to go to Naruto-kun, so I can save him from that orange-haired man who name I do not care to know." "Naruto-kun?"
^ Not all actual quotes, but I'm sure you get it. Way too much Naruto-kun. This, by the way, it supposedly a good thing.
27. People love Hinata for being the shy, unconfident girl who tries her hardest to improve herself. So, why is it that the Anime team and people who write her into their fanfics turn her into a character she's not? Both the anime and fic writers tend to allow Hinata to become more confident, stronger, talented and smarter then what she actually is. When has Hinata, for example, ever shown the capability to teach herself a move as vast as Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms?
28. She is selfish
- during the chuunin written test she allowed naruto to cheat of her, not only is she risking the chances of HER TEAM MATES she's also risking naruto's team mates chances of becoming chuunin.
- In the Pain Arc she leaves Ko defenceless in the battlefield, he is the Hyuuga bodyguard of hers doing his utmost to protect her during Pain's invasion. He mentioned it would be a disgrace for any danger to get to her while her sister and father were away. But the moment she sees Naruto, it's bam! "I'm going to risk my life for you, but not get my poor broken legged bodyguard to Sakura or another medic-nin and if I stayed dead the poor guy would have been utterly shamed and not only by the entire family but also himself."
29. Why do people point out how nice and caring Hinata is, but in fanfics she's more then likely seen forgetting about everyone else and leaving Konoha to go with Naruto? How is it that Hinata is allowed to be selfish and think of only one person? Yet, Sakura, Ino, Karin, ect get bashed for it?
30. Sakura was a girl with talent for chakra control and an intelligent brain, but she's useless 'cause she's a fangirl. Ino was said to be the top Kunoichi of her class, but because she's another fangirl with a technique she can't use without outside help she's useless. Tenten is devastating with those massive amount of weapons, but she useless since she hardly has any panel time. Hinata was born into a noble clan that contains a powerful eye technique. Yet despite being the weakest of her clan and giving up on easy missions, she's never seen as useless.
-Being born with natural talent doesn't make you useful or strong. It's how those abilities are used. Take Shikamaru, for example. The guy has an IQ of 200, so naturally he's a very useful Shinobi, right? Well, considering how he was unmotivated to use that brain power while he was younger he didn't try and in that aspect, be considered useless. Luckily he now bothers
31. She has terrible battle strategies
- in her fight against neji she attacked with basic movements which were easily block, as this went on she failed to realise that neji had been waiting for the right moment to shut off her chakra (a ninja always look underneath the underneath)
- in her fight against pein she literally jumps in front of the man that completely demolished her village and then (after confession) charges at him she runs directly at him, she didn't try to distracte him with a clone or anything. (ninjas should think before doing - that was naruto's biggest problem with the bell test, he charged before thinking, if hinata is at naruto genin thought level then that is quite pathetic)
32. She is terrible at listening to good advise
-Kiba told her not to fight Neji in the Chuunin Exams, just to forfeit, because he would beat her to a pulp then Neji told her forfeit too. did she listen? nooo. what happened? he beat her to a pulp.
-Ko told her not to go to Naruto during the Pain fight, because she would only be a burden. did she listen? nooo. what happened? he beat her to a pulp and she cause naruto to turn kyuubi, which caused Naruto the burden of thinking he was the cause of a FRIENDS death and Yamato a burden of having to find Naruto before it was a 9 tales it was luckly stopped by Minato and its not like she planned for that, so naruto could meet his father it was just very lucky, she could of been the cause of hundreds of peoples death because the kyuubi would attack anyone and everyone, friend or foe
-and recently she went into the 4th shinobi war and was almost killed by some zetsus, she is again lucky someone helped her. some fans have said that it was because she used up her chakra with byakugan, well i say she obviously hasn't learnt anything from Neji's mistake about not straining yourself in important situations, preserve your best for when you really need it, fight without your byakugan for a while. This pretty much showed me that she NEEDS to have byakugan to fight, all the other kunoichi don't have this advantage and they fight just fine with normal taijutsu only using their advantages when they NEED it
You do NOT have to agree, nor do you have to start hating Hinata
just take into consideration that we have our own opinion
Thank you"
Hate me for shedding light on the situation if you will. I don't care. I just firmly believe whatever group made this was on the right track.
And it goes:
"Contrary to popular belief HinataHaters don't blindly hate, we do have reasons for not liking the character Hinata Hyuuga
I'm sure we don't personally agree with all of them but here is the list.
1. She's boring: It's called an "opinion". There isn't much you can do to "correct" it.
2. She has little / no personality
3. Her stuttering. It use to be cute but now its just a time consuming annoyance
4. She comes from a great clan and is still useless.
5. It's rather difficult to not bring up NaruHina while talking about her.
6. Pick a character, any character. Now bash them. Bonus points if it's Sakura. Now suddenly Hinata looks so much better.
7. We must have missed the memo from Kishimoto about her being an important character. According to an interview, even the author himself seems confused.
7. Oh, no. Someone made a tiny little negative comment about her. Let's either make a long post or topic defending her. While we're at it, let's add in a few bits that the "hater" never mentioned.
8. Pairings-sorry, but it does count. No, no, NO! You can not pair her with any character and say it "makes sense". Do you really think Itachi, Kakashi, Genma, whoever likes shy girls? She's not the perfect match for every character.
9. Her flaws (yes, she has them) get ignored or excused. She's shy, submissive and weak
10. On the above mention of only being able to defend Hinata while bashing another character (Most of the time) I wonder if it's possible to defend her without bashing a character or the Anti-fandom?
11. "Hinata is a badass Kunochi that can kick Character's ass!" (If she's so strong then why does she gain filler moves to make things fair for her? I especially question this when concerning Sakura vs Hinata. Adding to that, by saying (for example) she can kick Sakura's ass makes it sound as if you believe Sakura is amazing, because it wouldn't be impressive if Hinata beat a useless character.)
12. No, some of us don't agree that she's a better character then some other character. Especially when said character is called something bad. It's as if you're saying "Well, OK Hinata's a terrible character, but at least she's better then Character".
13. "Don't hate her. She hasn't had a chance to show what she's capable of!" In that case, wouldn't it be easier to base her character on what she has shown? Also, yes, she has had a chance. its been what? 500 chapters and she is just starting to gain bits of confidence and strength? She's a ninja. Why are we cheering for her to do something she should have done years ago? Why are we going "Go, Hinata! She's finally kicking butt in the war!" "It's about time. Hinata is awesome!"?
14. Everything she does is awesome. She could pick her nose, pull out a booger and flick it. Bonus points if the booger hits Sakura and kills her. She's that awesome.
15. We just don't like her. It doesn't have to be explained. We just don't.
16. Hinata deserves to be with Naruto and not to be hated. No, I'm not entirely sure what she did. She just does.
17. No, we're not going to ignore the fact that she watched Naruto from a distance while he suffered alone. Sorry, but it is a "What the hell, Hinata?" moment.
18. If it's perfectly OK to love her, despite her being a fictional character then we're allowed to hate her, despite her being a fictional character.
19. It's great that Naruto is her motivation and all that, but some of us think it's time she moved foward. It's like Naruto's her crutch and she can't walk without him. BTW, if Naruto is her inspiration way earlier in the manga and she's just starting to show signs of becoming a capable Kunochi in recent manga chapters then it doesn't seem as if liking him has done much for her.
20. Some of us liked her or were just fine with her-until we came across her fandom. Yes, we shouldn't hate a character based on their fans, but sometimes exceptions can be made especially once coming into contact with Hinatards.
21. Some of us don't believe she's changed all that much after her confession. She became awesome and then was back being a wall flower.
22. Some of us don't actually hate her. Fan or not, we're just disappointed or annoyed about some aspect of her character. Seriously, before you label someone a hater not everyone loves everything about their favourite character.
23. It gets really annoying to read the whole of Konoha getting bashed for "sitting on their butts" during Naruto's fight with Pain while Hinata tried to save him. Never mind the fact that the filler shows the moment to be close to an hour long while in the manga it was a meer minute also her actions could have caused Kyubi to destroy Konoha if it wasn't for Minato's back up plan. So, no, we don't believe she deserves credit for saving Naruto.
24. Everyone in the village, except Hinata, didn't know who Naruto really was. They never really bothered. But, wait. Hinata didn't know him that well and she didn't get to know him either. Sorry, but watching someone train after being upset that you have, once again, given up is not "knowing someone".
25. Are we seriously the only ones who thinks it's bad that Hinata shows more concern for a guy she hardly interacts with as supposed to her whole clan (especially her father, little sister and cousin), her teammates, Kurenai and the whole of Konoha?
-Has she ever wanted to improve herself to gain back her right as clan heir?
-Apart from offering Kiba medical cream and worrying about Shino is his Chunnin fight, when was the last time she showed concern for her team?
-Does little Hanabi even exists anymore? Why isn't Hinata shown acting like a big caring sister?
-During the Forest of Death Team 8 has a run-in with the Sand Siblings and are almost crushed by Gaara's sand. The FoD is said to be a deadly place, so they're very shaken with their near-death experience. Skip to later on and every Rookie has made it safely. Que Hinata being glad Naruto made it as supposed to anyone else making it safely. Seriously, Hinata, the forest is a death trap and your only concern is Naruto?
-Kiba vs Naruto: You seriously can't decide who to cheer for, Hinata? You clearly wanted to cheer for Naruto, as it seems as the only reason you'd cheer for Kiba is because you feel as if you had to.
-The second Chunnin fight: Genma explains that unless he stops the match, this round contains no rules. Opponents are now allowed to kill one another. Hinata herself and one of her teammates, Kiba, didn't make it to the second battle round. Naruto, Hinata's admiration, and Shino, Hinata's other teammate do. Que Hinata being more concerned for Naruto then Shino.
26. "Naruto-kun!" "I have to get to get strong for Naruto-kun." "I'll do my best for Naruto-kun" "N-naruto-kun" "This war is about protecting Naruto-kun." "NARUTO-KUN!" "Clan? who are they? Where is Naruto-kun?" "I have teammates? I want to stand by Naruto-kun's side." "I must leave my guard's side to go to Naruto-kun, so I can save him from that orange-haired man who name I do not care to know." "Naruto-kun?"
^ Not all actual quotes, but I'm sure you get it. Way too much Naruto-kun. This, by the way, it supposedly a good thing.
27. People love Hinata for being the shy, unconfident girl who tries her hardest to improve herself. So, why is it that the Anime team and people who write her into their fanfics turn her into a character she's not? Both the anime and fic writers tend to allow Hinata to become more confident, stronger, talented and smarter then what she actually is. When has Hinata, for example, ever shown the capability to teach herself a move as vast as Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms?
28. She is selfish
- during the chuunin written test she allowed naruto to cheat of her, not only is she risking the chances of HER TEAM MATES she's also risking naruto's team mates chances of becoming chuunin.
- In the Pain Arc she leaves Ko defenceless in the battlefield, he is the Hyuuga bodyguard of hers doing his utmost to protect her during Pain's invasion. He mentioned it would be a disgrace for any danger to get to her while her sister and father were away. But the moment she sees Naruto, it's bam! "I'm going to risk my life for you, but not get my poor broken legged bodyguard to Sakura or another medic-nin and if I stayed dead the poor guy would have been utterly shamed and not only by the entire family but also himself."
29. Why do people point out how nice and caring Hinata is, but in fanfics she's more then likely seen forgetting about everyone else and leaving Konoha to go with Naruto? How is it that Hinata is allowed to be selfish and think of only one person? Yet, Sakura, Ino, Karin, ect get bashed for it?
30. Sakura was a girl with talent for chakra control and an intelligent brain, but she's useless 'cause she's a fangirl. Ino was said to be the top Kunoichi of her class, but because she's another fangirl with a technique she can't use without outside help she's useless. Tenten is devastating with those massive amount of weapons, but she useless since she hardly has any panel time. Hinata was born into a noble clan that contains a powerful eye technique. Yet despite being the weakest of her clan and giving up on easy missions, she's never seen as useless.
-Being born with natural talent doesn't make you useful or strong. It's how those abilities are used. Take Shikamaru, for example. The guy has an IQ of 200, so naturally he's a very useful Shinobi, right? Well, considering how he was unmotivated to use that brain power while he was younger he didn't try and in that aspect, be considered useless. Luckily he now bothers
31. She has terrible battle strategies
- in her fight against neji she attacked with basic movements which were easily block, as this went on she failed to realise that neji had been waiting for the right moment to shut off her chakra (a ninja always look underneath the underneath)
- in her fight against pein she literally jumps in front of the man that completely demolished her village and then (after confession) charges at him she runs directly at him, she didn't try to distracte him with a clone or anything. (ninjas should think before doing - that was naruto's biggest problem with the bell test, he charged before thinking, if hinata is at naruto genin thought level then that is quite pathetic)
32. She is terrible at listening to good advise
-Kiba told her not to fight Neji in the Chuunin Exams, just to forfeit, because he would beat her to a pulp then Neji told her forfeit too. did she listen? nooo. what happened? he beat her to a pulp.
-Ko told her not to go to Naruto during the Pain fight, because she would only be a burden. did she listen? nooo. what happened? he beat her to a pulp and she cause naruto to turn kyuubi, which caused Naruto the burden of thinking he was the cause of a FRIENDS death and Yamato a burden of having to find Naruto before it was a 9 tales it was luckly stopped by Minato and its not like she planned for that, so naruto could meet his father it was just very lucky, she could of been the cause of hundreds of peoples death because the kyuubi would attack anyone and everyone, friend or foe
-and recently she went into the 4th shinobi war and was almost killed by some zetsus, she is again lucky someone helped her. some fans have said that it was because she used up her chakra with byakugan, well i say she obviously hasn't learnt anything from Neji's mistake about not straining yourself in important situations, preserve your best for when you really need it, fight without your byakugan for a while. This pretty much showed me that she NEEDS to have byakugan to fight, all the other kunoichi don't have this advantage and they fight just fine with normal taijutsu only using their advantages when they NEED it
You do NOT have to agree, nor do you have to start hating Hinata
just take into consideration that we have our own opinion
Thank you"
Hate me for shedding light on the situation if you will. I don't care. I just firmly believe whatever group made this was on the right track.
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