So... Hiruzen vs Tsunade?

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People said Tsunade >>>>>> Hiruzen a long time.

What about now?

Can an Edo Hiruzen with no regen take out Tsunade?


100 meters, IC to kill, konoha crater.

Scenario 1: Hiruzen vs Tsunade - no summons

Scenario 2: Hiruzen vs Tsunade, both can summon.

Scenario 3: Hiruzen vs Tsunade + Sakura.

Scenario 4: Hiruzen vs Tsunade, Sakura, Shizune.

Bonus Scenario 5: Hiruzen vs Tsunade + Jiraiya ( Jman can only summon Bunta and the Sages )
 
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Hiruzen all scenarios with the last one being mid high diff.
 

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Scenario 1: Hiruzen vs Tsunade - no summons

Tsunade low- mid diff. Without Enma Hiruzen is still not Kage level.

Scenario 2: Hiruzen vs Tsunade, both can summon.

Tsunade mid diff.

Scenario 3: Hiruzen vs Tsunade + Sakura.

Team two rapes easily.

Scenario 4: Hiruzen vs Tsunade, Sakura, Shizune.

....

Old Hiruzen wasn't a chakra beast and that's his weakness. You should double his chakra reserves and not restrict his techniques.
 

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hiruzen 2, 3, 4.

Enma cage + dragon flame bomb.
 

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Hiruzen blitzes Tsunade so badly its not even funny.
 

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Hiruzen all scenarios with the last one being mid high diff.
What on earth? How the hell is he beating Tsunade and Jiraiya?
People said Tsunade >>>>>> Hiruzen a long time.

What about now?

Can an Edo Hiruzen with no regen take out Tsunade?


100 meters, IC to kill, konoha crater.

Scenario 1: Hiruzen vs Tsunade - no summons

Scenario 2: Hiruzen vs Tsunade, both can summon.

Scenario 3: Hiruzen vs Tsunade + Sakura.

Scenario 4: Hiruzen vs Tsunade, Sakura, Shizune.

Bonus Scenario 5: Hiruzen vs Tsunade + Jiraiya ( Jman can only summon Bunta and the Sages )
Hiruzen wins scenario one mid difficulty. He wins scenario two mid-high difficulty. Sakura and Tsunade can win scenario 3 high difficulty. Scenario four is won by the trio mid-high difficulty. Jiraiya and Tsunade rape Hiruzen low-mid difficulty.
Scenario 1: Hiruzen vs Tsunade - no summons

Tsunade low- mid diff. Without Enma Hiruzen is still not Kage level.

Scenario 2: Hiruzen vs Tsunade, both can summon.

Tsunade mid diff.

Scenario 3: Hiruzen vs Tsunade + Sakura.

Team two rapes easily.

Scenario 4: Hiruzen vs Tsunade, Sakura, Shizune.

....

Old Hiruzen wasn't a chakra beast and that's his weakness. You should double his chakra reserves and not restrict his techniques.
What? Having elemental attacks on the scale of Shinsusenju, the one that was trashing Gokage, doesn't make him kage level?Mastering all five elements doesn't make him kage level?
Hiruzen blitzes Tsunade so badly its not even funny.
Yeah because Hiruzen has shown that he is a speed blitz type of fighter.
 

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Hiruzen has nothing on TSunade under these conditions. It only takes one hit from Tsuande to put the old man out of his misery.
Prime Hiruzen vs TSunade is what I would like to see.
 

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Tsunade > Hiruzen

What does the old man have against tsunade's regeneration? He can't decapitate her and every other jutsu wont hurt her since she regenerates, in the end Hiruzen is left without any stamina and dies.

@lol draegod saying Hiruzen > Tsunade + Jiraiya.
 

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What? Having elemental attacks on the scale of Shinsusenju, the one that was trashing Gokage, doesn't make him kage level?Mastering all five elements doesn't him kage level.

Hiruzen's elemental attacks were not Buddha level. If you look clearly at the manga page his attacks are actually smaller than the Buddha's. Not to mention spiral zetsu's Buddha is way smaller than the original. Without summons I believe tsunade beats old living hiruzen. If we go by living feats he won't be able to make 5 clones and attack with all 5 elements at once.
 

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What on earth? How the hell is he beating Tsunade and Jiraiya?

Hiruzen wins scenario one mid difficulty. He wins scenario two mid-high difficulty. Sakura and Tsunade can win scenario 3 high difficulty. Scenario four is won by the trio mid-high difficulty. Jiraiya and Tsunade rape Hiruzen low-mid difficulty.

What? Having elemental attacks on the scale of Shinsusenju, the one that was trashing Gokage, doesn't make him kage level?Mastering all five elements doesn't make him kage level?

Yeah because Hiruzen has shown that he is a speed blitz type of fighter.

The shinsuusenju was trashing the Gokage ebcause they had no more stamina, but Hiruzen was an edo, that allowed him to resist more.

Ay showed he can stand up to the shinsusenju too, but his stamina was running out and in the end he lost to its atacks, Hiruzen is kage level sure, but without the infinite stamina he would have died, not even Ay who has Bijuu level chakra reserves could stand up to the Shinsusenju that long, Alive Hiruzen would have suffered the same fate than the Gokage.

The elemental atacks make no difference, none of them can actually do something to Tsunade's regeneration, to stop that jutsu you need to decapitate her or cut her in a half, or the other option is waiting until her chakra runs out (but that wouldn't happen since Tsunade's chakra reserves > Hiruzen)

And the biggest problem comes when Tsunade summons Katsuyu, That slug is definitely more dangerous than enma, its hughe (that makes it a good defence, if tsunade stays up tuere Hiruzen can't touch her) and it can spit acid, Hiruzen's slow ass would have trouble dodging it and he would get tired.

Tsunade > Hiruzen (old) --- And prime Hiruzen doesn't exist as a "real character" , we only have hype and I only use feats.
 

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Tsunade > Hiruzen

What does the old man have against tsunade's regeneration? He can't decapitate her and every other jutsu wont hurt her since she regenerates, in the end Hiruzen is left without any stamina and dies.

@lol draegod saying Hiruzen > Tsunade + Jiraiya.

You honestly believe that Tsunades neck is more durable than a giant tree branch?
 

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Hiruzen all scenarios with the last one being mid high diff.

Dat hiruzen wank... hiruzen taking on jman and tsunade at the same time? dayum..

anyways I believe hiruzen> tsunade but I don't see how he takes her down due to he regeneration.
 

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You honestly believe that Tsunades neck is more durable than a giant tree branch?

Wow like if that tree branch was faster than Tsunade, Tsunade isn't "slow", he's average in speed, while Hiruzen showed against Orochimaru that his age is a problem when it comes to Taijutsu, in close combat Tsunade would dodge Hiruzen's atacks since she's faster than him, so no decapitating her with the stick. Also tsunade is stronger than enma the monkey, CQC is not the best option for Hiruzen.
 

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Dat hiruzen wank... hiruzen taking on jman and tsunade at the same time? dayum..

anyways I believe hiruzen> tsunade but I don't see how he takes her down due to he regeneration.

He doesn't.. Tsunade beats Hiruzen
 

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Tsunade > Hiruzen

What does the old man have against tsunade's regeneration? He can't decapitate her and every other jutsu wont hurt her since she regenerates, in the end Hiruzen is left without any stamina and dies.

@lol draegod saying Hiruzen > Tsunade + Jiraiya.

He actually just added the last one. it was only 4 at first.

Look at when he posted, look at when i posted (2 mins later), look at when last edited (3 mins late, one minute after me). He loses To Jman, Tsunade is just there.

What will she do if sliced in halve?
 

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What on earth? How the hell is he beating Tsunade and Jiraiya?

Hiruzen wins scenario one mid difficulty. He wins scenario two mid-high difficulty. Sakura and Tsunade can win scenario 3 high difficulty. Scenario four is won by the trio mid-high difficulty. Jiraiya and Tsunade rape Hiruzen low-mid difficulty.

What? Having elemental attacks on the scale of Shinsusenju, the one that was trashing Gokage, doesn't make him kage level?Mastering all five elements doesn't make him kage level?

Yeah because Hiruzen has shown that he is a speed blitz type of fighter.

Dat hiruzen wank... hiruzen taking on jman and tsunade at the same time? dayum..

anyways I believe hiruzen> tsunade but I don't see how he takes her down due to he regeneration.

Again, Too all the slow ones, He edited His post after I posted My response.
 

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He actually just added the last one. it was only 4 at first.

Look at when he posted, look at when i posted (2 mins later), look at when last edited (3 mins late, one minute after me). He loses To Jman, Tsunade is just there.

What will she do if sliced in halve?

How does Hiruzen slice Tsunade when she's obviously faster than him? He wont touch her in CQC and if he goes to that category Tsunade can kill him with just one punch, while Hiruzen needs to cut her on a half and he doesn't have the tools for that (he ain't doing that with the stick because that thing wouldn't "cut" her, it would break her neck, and regeneration would fix that, also Hiruzen can't touch tsunade with taijutsu since she dodges all his atacks)
 
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