So Hillary just went full right-wing.

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Ouch!

Don't tell me it's as cliche as Ramen guy and tobi joke. I thought I was being original there. :shy: lol
Haha, well it's not that cliche. Again, I don't know what to believe in this case.

Early in the election that's what a lot of people thought since him and the Clintons were good friend and Trump and Bill Clinton had a private political conversation just before Trump announced that he would run. Considering how Trump seems to be deliberately trying to sabotage his own campaign, it might seem true.

But I don't think he's doing it for the Clintons, but for himself, as usual. Although, I'm pretty certain he's still good friends with them.

My assumption is that Bill probably convinced Trump to run as a favor, knowing that it'd help cause discord among the Republicans, and told him that he'd also benefit from doing so by marketing himself. But I don't think they ever agreed on a strategy and Bill probably didn't think he'd last this long.
 
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90% of Sanders supporters are supporting HRC according to Pew Research.
Nah, that's actually untrue, it's below 70% with an 8% margin of error and a lot of them don't even know about third parties and are only voting because they don't want Trump as president. Sanders supporters are not voting for Clinton because they like her support her.

The 90% only came from polls without a third party option.

Before Bernie's endorsement, it was only 55%.

Honestly, if she had 90% of Bernie supporters, then why is Trump crunching on her lead?

Again, you're being purposely deceitful and disingenuous to the people on this forum.





 
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Nah, that's actually untrue, it's below 70% with an 8% margin of error and a lot of them don't even know about third parties and are only voting because they don't want Trump as president. Sanders supporters are not voting for Clinton because they like her support her.

The 90% only came from polls without a third party option.

Before Bernie's endorsement, it was only 55%.

Honestly, if she had 90% of Bernie supporters, then why is Trump crunching on her lead?

Again, you're being purposely deceitful and disingenuous to the people on this forum.





The Pew Research Center says that 90% of those who supported Sanders in the primaries prefers Clinton in the general elections:

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Clinton's convention, despite regular interruption from dissatisfied Bernie Sanders delegates inside the convention hall, also appears to have bolstered Democratic unity overall and strengthened her position among Sanders' supporters. Among Democrats and independents who lean toward the Democratic Party, 84% now feel the party will be united by November, up from 75% before either convention. Those who say they would rather have seen the party nominate Sanders now split 69% for Clinton, 13% for Stein, 10% for Johnson and just 3% say they'll back Trump. That's a 5-point improvement for Clinton (inside the margin of sampling error for this subgroup), an 8-point dropoff in the share who say they'd back Trump and a 7-point increase in support for Jill Stein.
You sound almost as if you're happy with the idea that Trump will beat Clinton with third-party options taking some of the latter's votes. Just because you and other disgruntled Bernie supporters didn't get your way you would rather see America destroyed by a Trump presidency, that is very petty and childish and that is not what Sanders wants.

[video=youtube;D7nfvULltaY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7nfvULltaY[/video]

As Sen. Elizabeth Warren said (concerning voting for third-party candidates like Stein) "Anything you do that helps Donald Trump get one inch closer to the White House is a danger to all of us."
 
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The Pew Research Center says that 90% of those who supported Sanders in the primaries prefers Clinton in the general elections:

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And CNN:

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You sound almost as if you're happy with the idea that Trump will beat Clinton with third-party options taking some of the latter's votes. Just because you and other disgruntled Bernie supporters didn't get your way you would rather see America destroyed by a Trump presidency, that is very petty and childish and that is not what Sanders wants.

[video=youtube;D7nfvULltaY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7nfvULltaY[/video]

As Sen. Elizabeth Warren said (concerning voting for third-party candidates like Stein) "Anything you do that helps Donald Trump get one inch closer to the White House is a danger to all of us."
No, I'm pretty sure Sanders wanted a political revolution, not backing a candidate funded by Wall-Street because he had no choice.

If Hillary loses, it's her own fault for being a bad candidate.

And the fact that she is having such trouble with Donald Trump only further proves her incapacity to be a good leader that people can get behind. It's honestly laughable, that someone claiming to be a humanist and a progressive can lose to Donald Trump.....

This should have been the easiest general election for anyone else. Her opponent is a man-child for goodness sake!!!

Hillary Clinton is a shitty candidate that doesn't represent the people's values. How about you put it on her because she's not entitled to our vote; she has to earn our vote. This idea that we are failing "our great leader Hillary" is ridiculous.

No, she's failing us. If she did a good enough job, then we would have no reason to doubt that people would vote for her.

How about giving us a message, or a reason, or something that we can really get behind aside for the fear of Trump? Because I fear an oligarchy almost as equally.

You treat her like a Queen. Bend the knee and serve! Remain a derp.

Sorry, but I'll stick to my principles and my values. I'll vote for someone I believe in and not for someone who is a puppet of the corporations.

#JillnotHill

 
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