So... Hashirama saw Black Zetsu and subsequently, this is where Madara cast Izanagi?

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you just don't get it.U_U

I get that you're speculating U_U. Your theory was never stated in the manga, nor was it implied. It's speculation.

You claiming "Madara could have negged Hashirama with Genjutsu" also tells me you're clearly biased since they've fought countless times and Hashirama is obviously portrayed as the superior one U_U
 

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I get that you're speculating U_U. Your theory was never stated in the manga, nor was it implied. It's speculation.

You claiming "Madara could have negged Hashirama with Genjutsu" also tells me you're clearly biased since they've fought countless times and Hashirama is obviously portrayed as the superior one U_U

i never sai he could've neggedU_U that point in the fight it wasn't even a neg feat they were both battered and bloody..U_U

how am i biased? Madara even admitted hashi could stop him.

just like how naruto stopped sasuke at VoTE2, but instead, madara planned for the future. did you even take the time to read the post or are you so much of a madara hater?
 

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Planning to lose? Wow. Lol

OT: That is most likely where he activated Izanagi. Panels like those indicate that a Sharingan technique is going to be used. There was really nothing else that Madara had in his MS arsenal.
 

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Nope. Wrong eye. He sacrificed his right eye for Izanagi, and that is his left eye in the random panel.
 

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Do some of you really think that the strongest member of the world's most arrogant clan would intentionally lose a fight against someone who he has never defeated?
 

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Are people really suggesting that Madara "tanked" his fight with Hashirama? Fanboys. Lol

OT: Yes, Hashirama glimpsed or perhaps "felt" BZ's presence. And I agree that was when Izanagi was cast.
 

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i never sai he could've neggedU_U that point in the fight it wasn't even a neg feat they were both battered and bloody..U_U

how am i biased? Madara even admitted hashi could stop him.

just like how naruto stopped sasuke at VoTE2, but instead, madara planned for the future. did you even take the time to read the post or are you so much of a madara hater?

He had his plans for the future, that doesn't mean he orchestrated the fight.

You're implying Madara is one hell of an actor too. He's clearly surprised when Hashirama stabs him. Madara even questions how Hashirama was able to get his back.

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I have nothing against Madara. These theories of yours are just not logical and even worse you're passing them off as facts.
 

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He had his plans for the future, that doesn't mean he orchestrated the fight.

You're implying Madara is one hell of an actor too. He's clearly surprised when Hashirama stabs him. Madara even questions how Hashirama was able to get his back.

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I have nothing against Madara. These theories of yours are just not logical and even worse you're passing them off as facts.

madara planned to lose. who wouldn't be surprised of a back stab?
 

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madara planned to lose. who wouldn't be surprised of a back stab?

So Madara planned to lose....but he was surprised when he actually lost? Lol.

Like I said, if that's your opinion that's fine, but it's speculation. You shouldn't pass it off as facts U_U.
 

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So Madara planned to lose....but he was surprised when he actually lost? Lol.

Like I said, if that's your opinion that's fine, but it's speculation. You shouldn't pass it off as facts U_U.

madara planned to lose but was surprised hashi was behind him yeah, things didn't go as plan.
 

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For one, all madara wanted from the start is to cast infinite Tsukuyomi.
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For two, even if he defeated Hashirama, he knew that no one would side with him.
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Here, proves that madara just wanted to take Hashi's DNA,
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Instead of biting him, he could've easily put him in genjutsu and kill him, or use kenjutsu to kill Hashi and end the fight.

The creator of the shinobi world states that he deceived the uchiha into casting infinite Tsukuyomi which would save them.
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BZ states that madara lost however, but what he didn't know is that it was according to madara's plan.
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Then BZ corrects himself implying that it was madara's plan by saying madara wasn't stupid, he died on purpose.
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madara was able to go in hiding without having anyone know of his existence and awake the rinnegan.
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Madara knew that Hashi was the successor of the failed world, so he decided to let Hashi live in it. Simply because if he did kill him, the 5 nations would seek madara in on out anyways.
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He even said that he planned on what he was currently doing.
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So it was the smartest thing to do for madara at that time,

Fake a death, obtain the rinnegan, and cast infinite Tsukuyomi

So madara didn't need to win, just get the tools to solo the world. Like he did in canon.

#Ty and Madara Rules
#Godara
#SoloGod
#MANGAFACTS

When BZ said Madara wasn't stupid, he wasn't correcting himself. He was stating that Madara knew full of what Hashirama was capable of, and took precautions in the form of a Tensha Fuuin.

If he did somehow win the battle, he could either cancel the technique or let it run it's course. After all, the Rinnegan restores EMS power anyway.
 
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