So, God really does not exist.

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It doesn't matter what you believe. Genetically, there is a 2% difference between us and other Great Apes. Evolution doesn't drive toward anything. Other apes did not evolve similarly simply because it is impossible.

This is actually a common misconception. Man did not evolve from apes. Man and apes share a common ancestor, meaning Both species evolved from something similar. That is why our genetic makeup is so similar.
 

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Am not flaming..just showing you how incomplete,untrue some of the theories of evolution are..even you(its advocate) isn't even sure of what you are saying....again what is your definition/idea of a weak/frail body?..for example, a man can die by a bite of a cobra,does that make the human body weaker than that of a cobra?..and when I first used the word 'advanced',I wasn't just refering to physical advancement(even though the human bodies is the *apex* of physical advancement)..but also mentally,morally etc...

Your use of the cobra analogy is somewhat... bad. The cobras body being weak or not is irrelevant when talking about how deadly its bite is. Just because a cobra bite can kill a man doesn't mean a cobra's body is physically more resistant to affliction than a mans body. what you mean to do is compare the body of a man to the body of a cobra in terms of physical endurance. Let me propose this then: A gunshot that is nonfatal to a man, will easily kill a Cobra. This is because a cobras body IS weaker than that of a man.
 
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Am not flaming..just showing you how incomplete,untrue some of the theories of evolution are..even you(its advocate) isn't even sure of what you are saying....again what is your definition/idea of a weak/frail body?..for example, a man can die by a bite of a cobra,does that make the human body weaker than that of a cobra?..and when I first used the word 'advanced',I wasn't just refering to physical advancement(even though the human bodies is the *apex* of physical advancement)..but also mentally,morally etc...
Ok we are pretty weak, man vs shark, no weapons, who wins. Man vs lion, no weapons, who wins. Man vs wolf, no weapons who wins. Man vs anaconda, no weapons who wins. Man vs gator, no weapons who wins. Don't get me wrong, we can be strong, but in terms of the animal kingdom, its not something we note. And please explain to me how i am not even sure about what i am saying. We are stronger than a lot of animals, but i could go on forever naming animals physically deadlier than us. Why do you think we need weapons to fight everything?
 

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people like steven here try and try again to prove God doesnt exist but theres no way to prove he doesnt. I was questioning my beliefs in God for some time now but you know what? as ****ed up as our world is in this day and time...i believe that Earth is what it is because of nothing but a cycle of our own selfish stupid greedy egotistical human selves over centuries and centuries of forsaking ourselves. since the beginning of time there has been good/evil, light/dark, etc parallels that not only balance each other out, but are perfect opposites...the pattern also of the world is that there is a creation and destruction in every form of existance...we ourselves can create and destroy just as easily as we can blame God for creating and destroying. The way the world is set up to create oxygen so we breath, plants and animals for food and companions, the sea, the science in general behind the earth is extraordinary. I do think the big bang is a possibility, but a possibility through God. Why is it God couldnt have created the earth in the way we have discovered? because the bible says so? no. just no. everything is also just scientifically exact...its truly a miracle how this entire existence, remains an existance but really its not that way. God is in everything in our universe, for all we know, the planets, galaxies, holes, nebulas and everything are something totally different from what we perceive. We are bound (going itachi here) by what we can sense as reality and we have no way of knowing until we die what type of reality we came from.

To me, God made us in his image(as in energy that manifested into our world and reality today), he is our higher selves and our subconscious we cannot control unless we learn too through spirituality and meditation and having that alone time with God. At some point or another, humans did gain access to their higher self, which in turn helped us evolve (maybe) into the modern homo sapiens we are...or at one point or another, we could have had another dinosaur happening, only with species of human (like a mass disease strike or just being humans and killed each other off). Archeologists have discovered not just the Neanderthal but multiple human species that range from very ape like to very human like. Lucy isn't the only thing we have to go on....this is proof enough to me that we really have no idea.

Also, he gave humans free will on earth for a reason and our own decisions have created the world we live in (our ancestors to this day). I don't even believe in a form of hell because the God i believe exists is the God i have always believed in...one who loves unconditionally no matter what and just emits love. theirs no possible way God is capable of doing the things our religions have taught us he is capable of. They have made him out to be this bloodthirsty unforgiving **** that will for example, throw gay people to hell because of how they feel they should be? no. simply ****ing no. Just like i do not think he would punish the people that took their own lives. i do believe all actions are forgiven, but in turn we are given a second chance in a harsher state on earth to live (drug addicts, homeless, raped, murdered)and we have to find the light through the worst on earth to return back to a "good" reincarnated life. God wouldn't though damn a soul into an eternal burning hell (my opinon), it contradicts what he claims he is. sadly our ancestors have destroyed and altered Jesus, Muhammad's, Buddha's, all the major prophets teachings of God and warped it into this disgusting tool to control others and only benefit certain select people.

God is the energy that has created our world and us. Apart of him resides in all of us and it is up to us to accept his help (our intuition or "signs") to make decisions. those decisions, no matter how big or small, effect someone something somewhere in our life. our souls come to earth in order to become stronger beings and be the best we can for God. im positive alternate realities exist and reincarnation exists and all of us have been on earth many times over and we are trying to learn and perfect ourselves and our spirits through love. im sorry, i know im ranting but religion is a power tool and its an insult to God himself and the beings he has provided on earth to assist us in knowing his true intentions and love. There are many more credible enlightened beings besides those mentioned but has anyone ever wondered why we can learn to astral project? or looked up tons of reincarnation stories or near death experiences...you look up a bunch of those accounts and youll start to see that their really is nothing but bliss, happiness, and love after this life here. We are here to learn and we are the generation who is going to start making changes...not Obama, not Romney, not any of these politicians or world leaders or religious figures of today.

im done, there are many holes in these claims and statements but after doing much research into religion, sciences, astrology, neurosciences, and such (as in just classes and reading articles and journals and books and documentaries like 5x over) and it makes sense when you start putting it all together. Someone is going to find something wrong with this im sure, but really, it is silly to say something of a higher existence isn't behind all the good things we experience in life.
 
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Am not flaming..just showing you how incomplete,untrue some of the theories of evolution are..even you(its advocate) isn't even sure of what you are saying....again what is your definition/idea of a weak/frail body?..for example, a man can die by a bite of a cobra,does that make the human body weaker than that of a cobra?..and when I first used the word 'advanced',I wasn't just refering to physical advancement(even though the human bodies is the *apex* of physical advancement)..but also mentally,morally etc...

I suggest you actually read up on Evolution before calling it into question. You're not some genius and you're not stumping the entirety of academia. Evolution has absolutely nothing to do with chance. If you inherit a favorable trait, you will live to procreate and pass it on.
 

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people like steven here try and try again to prove God doesnt exist but theres no way to prove he doesnt. I was questioning my beliefs in God for some time now but you know what? as ****ed up as our world is in this day and time...i believe that Earth is what it is because of nothing but a cycle of our own selfish stupid greedy egotistical human selves over centuries and centuries of forsaking ourselves. since the beginning of time there has been good/evil, light/dark, etc parallels that not only balance each other out, but are perfect opposites...the pattern also of the world is that there is a creation and destruction in every form of existance...we ourselves can create and destroy just as easily as we can blame God for creating and destroying. God made us in his image, he is our higher selves and our subconscious we cannot control. He gave humans free will on earth for a reason and our own decisions have created the world we live in. I dont even believe in a form of hell because the God i believe exists is the God i have believed in...one who loves unconditionally no matter what and just emits love. theres no possible way God is capable of doing the things our religions have taught us he is capable of. They have made him out to be this bloodthirsty unforgiving **** that will for example, throw gay people to hell because of how they feel they should be? no. simply ****ing no. God would never do that and sadly our ancestors have destroyed and altered Jesus, Muhammad's, Buddha's, all the major prophets teachings of God and warped it into this disgusting tool to control others and only benefit certain select people.

God would never condone the behavior we claim he condones on earth. He loves again unconditionally and lives within each of us, the reason why we cannot feel him or sense him is because we are not in tune with our true selves. We literally live our day to day lives stuck in a ****ed up reality bubble and we think that this is bliss or it or the best times of our lives? it is if we make it that way, but many of us chose to do the difficult things or dont go the extra mile for a friend or do that little thing to help others out that keeps our world related on a more personal level and not based on skin color, sexual orientation, beliefs or something stupid like that.

God is the energy that has created our world and us. Apart of him resides in all of us and it is up to us to accept his help (our intuition or "signs") to make decisions. those decisions, no matter how big or small, effect someone something somewhere in our life. our souls come to earth in order to become stronger beings and be the best we can for God. im positive alternate realities exist and reincarnation exists and all of us have been on earth many times over and we are trying to learn and perfect ourselves and our spirits through love. im sorry, i know im ranting but religion is a power tool and its an insult to God himself and the beings he has provided on earth to assist us in knowing his true intentions and love. There are many more credible enlightened beings besides those mentioned but has anyone ever wondered why we can learn to astral project? or looked up tons of reincarnation stories or near death experiences...you look up a bunch of those accounts and youll start to see that their really is nothing but bliss, happiness, and love after this life here. We are here to learn and we are the generation who is going to start making changes...not Obama, not Romney, not any of these politicians or world leaders or religious figures of today.

im done, there are many holes in these claims and statements but after doing much research into religion, sciences, astrology, neurosciences, and such (as in just classes and reading articles and journals and books and documentaries like 5x over) and it makes sense when you start putting it all together. Someone is going to find something wrong with this im sure, but really, it is silly to say something of a higher existence isn't behind all the good things we experience in life.
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This is actually a common misconception. Man did not evolve from apes. Man and apes share a common ancestor, meaning Both species evolved from something similar. That is why our genetic makeup is so similar.

That isn't what I said. There is a 2% genetic difference between us and other apes. All it means is that we have similar ancestry.
 

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That isn't what I said. There is a 2% genetic difference between us and other apes. All it means is that we have similar ancestry.

My apologies for misunderstanding your post. When you said "Other apes did not evolve similarly simply because it is impossible." It seemed like you were implying Man evolved from apes, and other apes just weren't able to.
 

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On a completely unrelated note, I must admit that I am surprised by how intelligently some of the Base's community can have a conversation. When I read some of these threads, just people flaming each other and making rash statements. The maturity level surprised me. Glad to see some of you are actually articulate :)
 

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Am not flaming..just showing you how incomplete,untrue some of the theories of evolution are..even you(its advocate) isn't even sure of what you are saying....again what is your definition/idea of a weak/frail body?..for example, a man can die by a bite of a cobra,does that make the human body weaker than that of a cobra?..and when I first used the word 'advanced',I wasn't just refering to physical advancement(even though the human bodies is the *apex* of physical advancement)..but also mentally,morally etc...

Read: Charles Darwin; On the Origin of Species. Richard Dawkins; The God Delusion. Christopher Hitchens; God is not Great.
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My apologies for misunderstanding your post. When you said "Other apes did not evolve similarly simply because it is impossible." It seemed like you were implying Man evolved from apes, and other apes just weren't able to.

Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to imply it but it definitely comes off that way lol. Just not paying enough attention I suppose.
 

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To the thread creator I haven't bothered to watch the video and I wont, however there is something I would like to say. You said you were a catholic well there are many things questionable about that religion so I can understand how watching that video (and what ever it has in it) may effect your beliefs. I urge you to look into Christianity. Thats all I have to say.

p.s Don't anybody quote me I won't be coming back to this thread
 

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God does not exist.

Prayers NEVER get answered.

No supernatural miracles that I can think of.

Inconsistent book to base his existence from.

GG God/Gods
 
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Some Questions when I went through the bible


If God is omnipotent (all-powerful), why did he take six days to create everything? Why not speak everything into existence all at once?


How did Noah fit the millions and millions of species on this planet into his ark?


If God is omnipotent, why does he not just show himself to all of us, all at once, thereby ending this game of free will and temptation?


If we are to only have *** for the purpose of pro-creation, and to do so outside of the scope of pro-creation is sinful, then why would God create us with an over abundance of nerve endings in our reproductive organs making *** extremely pleasurable? It sounds like a set-up.


If God is perfect then his creations should be perfect, right? Then that would mean that the earth is a perfect creation. Then why would God have to create another perfect place, heaven, and use it to entice us to believe in him? What kind of assurance do we have that heaven would be any better than his other 'perfect' creation, earth?


How did Adam live to 930, Seth 912 and Methuselah 969 years old when anthropological evidence show that we have progressively increased our longevity throughout history? If they did live that long back then, this concept would be reversed and our longevity should have been decreasing throughout history, right? That would mean that people 500 years ago should have lived to at least 200 years old. Why do we not find evidence of this throughout written historical birth and death records as well as archaeological and anthropological evidence?


Why would God give us the capability of logic and reason and expect us not to use it when it comes to belief in him and his word?
 

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sure I will throw my 2 cents on this.

I believe that religion back in old times before we had modern science was fine and dandy because he did not have the technology or understanding that we do now. So saying there is some magical being somewhere in the clouds who made people from mud sounded pretty legit. But the fact that Religion is still a thing up to this era is mind boggling after we as humans have come so far, Religion in general has warn out its use.
 

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Wow i like the new people on this thread, so civilized unlike the past ones...
 

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Oy..... Can't believe I had to make an account to just say this.

Firstly, is this really the place to be discussing something like this?

Secondly, non of this ranting or anything in the video really matters. The world had to come from SOMEWHERE, you cannot make something out of nothing. So, putting aside all the arguments and proof/lack of proof for any of this. There has to be a god of some sort, there absolutly HAS to be an origniator. Even if there was just energy and time and empty space in the very beginning of time, who made all of those things? So there was nothingness? Where did the energy come from? Where did the space for the stupid little goop thingys to evolve come from? I am sorry, but without some god in the picture evolution is pure nonesense. AND that is ignoring all the monumental coincidences, there is NO WAY something can come out of nothing without someone (notice I say someone not something, because a something would have to have been originated too) instigating it.

I am a Christian and personally, I believe in creation as the Bible tells it (I don't know how you can believe in God and believe that he made the world evolve, it makes no sense. If you believe in God then you should believe the way he tells the story in the Bible in my opinion.). Regardless of that, even if I am wrong and my God doesn't exist, there is SOME god out there, period. No ands, ifs or buts, there is just no way around it. So Mr. ex-catholic dude/dudette that started this whole thing, sorry, your vid still fails to answer the most basic question. Far as I can see it just tries to confuse by using a red-herring with lots of scientific mumbo-jumbo. Ok, yeah, he's a really smart dude, but where did the very first something that wasn't nothing come from?

This is the first and probably only post I will ever write for this site. No matter who's right or wrong this is a very idiotic topic to have on a site dedicated to Naruto and honestly it rather annoyed me to see it on the "hottest threads" list. Everyone is entitled to their own belief whether it makes sense or not and if you want to discuss it go to some relegious forum.

And that's my 2 cents on this whole thing, take it or leave it.

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Oy..... Can't believe I had to make an account to just say this.

Firstly, is this really the place to be discussing something like this?

Secondly, non of this ranting or anything in the video really matters. The world had to come from SOMEWHERE, you cannot make something out of nothing. So, putting aside all the arguments and proof/lack of proof for any of this. There has to be a god of some sort, there absolutly HAS to be an origniator. Even if there was just energy and time and empty space in the very beginning of time, who made all of those things? So there was nothingness? Where did the energy come from? Where did the space for the stupid little goop thingys to evolve come from? I am sorry, but without some god in the picture evolution is pure nonesense. AND that is ignoring all the monumental coincidences, there is NO WAY something can come out of nothing without someone (notice I say someone not something, because a something would have to have been originated too) instigating it.

I am a Christian and personally, I believe in creation as the Bible tells it (I don't know how you can believe in God and believe that he made the world evolve, it makes no sense. If you believe in God then you should believe the way he tells the story in the Bible in my opinion.). Regardless of that, even if I am wrong and my God doesn't exist, there is SOME god out there, period. No ands, ifs or buts, there is just no way around it. So Mr. ex-catholic dude/dudette that started this whole thing, sorry, your vid still fails to answer the most basic question. Far as I can see it just tries to confuse by using a red-herring with lots of scientific mumbo-jumbo. Ok, yeah, he's a really smart dude, but where did the very first something that wasn't nothing come from?

This is the first and probably only post I will ever write for this site. No matter who's right or wrong this is a very idiotic topic to have on a site dedicated to Naruto and honestly it rather annoyed me to see it on the "hottest threads" list. Everyone is entitled to their own belief whether it makes sense or not and if you want to discuss it go to some relegious forum.

And that's my 2 cents on this whole thing, take it or leave it.

Thunder

And thats the wonderful thing about life, we can all have our own views. your views are perfectly valid, and i respect them. i can see where you're coming from about discussing this on the website, but i put this in the general discussion section. The people on here have good perspective and are good debaters, so i wanted to see what they thought. I apologize about the misleading title also.
 
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