So do you guys agree that this is the biggest thing that happened in part 2?

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The friends which were with him for almost the entirety of part 1. Also the people who saved and helped him countless times.

Scans of these "friends" being with him when he was alone and had no one to talk to? Scans of these "friends" helping him countless times? Scans of these "friends" that you speak of?

It seems to me like you are just speaking from your ass again. There was nobody in that village who cared about Sasuke and considered him to be a friend with the exception of Naruto. Fangirls don't count because they are just fangirls. Sakura? She is a lopsided twig stuck on lovestruck.

What purpose did Sasuke even have in that village? He made if quite clear that he didn't care about anything else in that world but killing his brother and restoring his clan. He also made it quite clear that if he continued to stay in that peaceful cheap village that he would just be hindered from his goal and he wouldn't get anywhere. Sasuke left the village because he knew that he couldn't get stronger if he stayed, and he was right. Hebi Sasuke was a beast. Why was Hebi Sasuke such a beast? Because he trained under Orochimaru, the perfect person to get him on par with Itachi.

Whether a few desperate people wanted him to stay or not is irrelevant. Sasuke wanting to pursue what he only cared for the whole time while being in the village shouldn't be any of their business nor should they get in the way of it.

I find it funny how you want to jump on him, when in fact you are supporting someone who wanted to protect that same criminal all because he is selfish of everyone who was affected. Omoi's master Bee obviously didn't matter to Naruto. Those Samurai that Sasuke killed obviously didn't matter to Naruto. Naruto's feelings are above everyone else's right? No matter what Sasuke does, it doesn't matter.
 
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Scans of these "friends" being with him when he was alone and had no one to talk to? Scans of these "friends" helping him countless times? Scans of these "friends" that you speak of?

It seems to me like you are just speaking from your ass again. There was nobody in that village who cared about Sasuke and considered him to be a friend with the exception of Naruto. Fangirls don't count because they are just fangirls. Sakura? She is a lopsided twig stuck on lovestruck.

What purpose did Sasuke even have in that village? He made if quite clear that he didn't care about anything else in that world but killing his brother and restoring his clan. He also made it quite clear that if he continued to stay in that peaceful cheap village that he would just be hindered from his goal and he wouldn't get anywhere. Sasuke left the village because he knew that he couldn't get stronger if he stayed, and he was right. Hebi Sasuke was a beast. Why was Hebi Sasuke such a beast? Because he trained under Orochimaru, the perfect person to get him on par with Itachi.

Whether a few desperate people wanted him to stay or not is irrelevant. Sasuke wanting to pursue what he only cared for the whole time while being in the village shouldn't be any of their business nor should they get in the way of it.

I find it funny how you want to jump on him, when in fact you are supporting someone who wanted to protect that same criminal all because he is selfish of everyone who was affected. Omoi's master Bee obviously didn't matter to Naruto. Those Samurai that Sasuke killed obviously didn't matter to Naruto. Naruto's feelings are above everyone else's right? No matter what Sasuke does, it doesn't matter.

I just wanted to add Kakashi to the list. I believe Kakashi loved him in his own way too.

Love might be a strong word though.
 

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Sadly that seems to be the scenario.His infatuation with Sasuke is a big mark on his character to the point of being annoying.even hyperventilated because Sasuke wasn't giving a shit about Naruto.Like let the guy mind his own business while you do your own dammit
 

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Sadly that seems to be the scenario.His infatuation with Sasuke is a big mark on his character to the point of being annoying.even hyperventilated because Sasuke wasn't giving a shit about Naruto.Like let the guy mind his own business while you do your own dammit

Let's also not forget him going 4 tails all because of a little trash talk.
 

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Scans of these "friends" being with him when he was alone and had no one to talk to? Scans of these "friends" helping him countless times? Scans of these "friends" that you speak of?

You want a scan of these friends? Read every manga page with the K11 in it, those are Sasuke's friends. Want scans of friends helping him out? Read the zabuza arc where Kakashi and Naruto were protecting him and Sakura.

It seems to me like you are just speaking from your ass again. There was nobody in that village who cared about Sasuke and considered him to be a friend with the exception of Naruto. Fangirls don't count because they are just fangirls. Sakura? She is a lopsided twig stuck on lovestruck.

It seems to me like you just have your head in your ass again. The entire village cared for him and treated him better than even the village's jinchuriki. He was the village's last uchiha, the prodigy, the best rookie in part 1. Not only did girls adore him, but boys wanted to be like him and admired him. When he ran away, Shikamaru, while admitting not to be much of a friend to Sasuke, that Sasuke was a leaf shinobi and no one should be left behind.

What purpose did Sasuke even have in that village? He made if quite clear that he didn't care about anything else in that world but killing his brother and restoring his clan. He also made it quite clear that if he continued to stay in that peaceful cheap village that he would just be hindered from his goal and he wouldn't get anywhere. Sasuke left the village because he knew that he couldn't get stronger if he stayed, and he was right. Hebi Sasuke was a beast. Why was Hebi Sasuke such a beast? Because he trained under Orochimaru, the perfect person to get him on par with Itachi.

How exactly do you know he was right? We don't know how Sasuke could have ended up if he stayed in the village, all we have is baseless assumptions to work on what would happen if he stayed in the village. Fact is, Sasuke was still weaker than Itachi even after all that training with Orochimaru.

Whether a few desperate people wanted him to stay or not is irrelevant. Sasuke wanting to pursue what he only cared for the whole time while being in the village shouldn't be any of their business nor should they get in the way of it.

You think that they were trying to stop him from his goal? You honestly think that? They were stopping him to protect him, because they knew what Orochimaru wanted him for in actuality. You think Orochimaru was training Sasuke to fight Itachi? He was training his new vessel so that Sasuke would be strong enough. Yet Sasuke accepted anyway, the only reason Orochimaru didn't get Sasuke's body was because he was sick, if he was healthy Sasuke would have already been taken by Orochimaru.

I find it funny how you want to jump on him, when in fact you are supporting someone who wanted to protect that same criminal all because he is selfish of everyone who was affected. Omoi's master Bee obviously didn't matter to Naruto. Those Samurai that Sasuke killed obviously didn't matter to Naruto. Naruto's feelings are above everyone else's right? No matter what Sasuke does, it doesn't matter.

Naruto didn't even know Bee when Sasuke attacked him, Sasuke didn't even kill the Samurai, and even if he did, there is no proof that Naruto knew about that either. Besides, Sasuke's crimes weren't let go without a price, why do you think he's on this road to redemption?
 

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Lord Itachi soloing himself from the past.

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This was the ultimate form of solo.

Lord Itachi soloed time itself.
 

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You want a scan of these friends? Read every manga page with the K11 in it,

It seems you have no type of common sense here, so allow me to explain it for you in terms that you will understand.

Just because there are people in Sasuke's generation that happens to be in the same year or class as him does not automatically mean that they are his friends. Going by your idiotic logic, if I go to a classroom surrounded by people that I go to school with everyday, then that means that they are automatically my friends.

They do not treat him as an actual friend. At the most they will just speak to him. Kiba, Shino, Lee, Hinata, Ino, Sakura, Choji, Shikamaru... these people were never his actual friends. They were his peers and if they ended up on missions together they are comrades.

The only true friend he ever had in that village was Naruto.

Learn the difference and stop wasting my time with your redundant stupidity.

those are Sasuke's friends.
Exactly stated above, they are not his 'friends' and you should seriously learn what an actual friend is before making up bullshit about Sasuke. You look stupid.


Want scans of friends helping him out? Read the zabuza arc where Kakashi and Naruto were protecting him and Sakura.
Is that why you can only prove that his only close bonds are in team 7? I explicitly stated that Naruto is excluded so there is no point in bringing him up. Kakashi and Sakura are apart of his team, and naturally when you are apart of someone's team, you help them out.

It seems to me like you just have your head in your ass again. The entire village cared for him and treated him better than even the village's jinchuriki.
Instead of copying my words like a dumbass, how about you come up with your own shit, boy?

And how exactly does this equate to them being his friend? The only reason why they treated Sasuke better was because they were afraid of what was inside of Naruto, and yet those people that treated him better than Naruto still didn't comfort his loneliness, so don't act as if Sasuke had a good childhood when in fact he didn't.

He was the village's last uchiha, the prodigy, the best rookie in part 1.
Irrelevant. I don't see how any of this has to do with the village treating him like a friend.

Not only did girls adore him, but boys wanted to be like him and admired him.
You're obviously missing the point, but I didn't expect any less. Those boys and girls that wanted to be like him are still NOT HIS FRIENDS nor should Sasuke give any shit about some random fanboys/fangirls.

When he ran away, Shikamaru, while admitting not to be much of a friend to Sasuke, that Sasuke was a leaf shinobi and no one should be left behind.
It was a mission. Nothing more and nothing less. There was no personal vendetta or feelings during that time. The only person who actually has any type of relationship with Sasuke was Naruto and Sakura. Kiba and the others were doing it because they were assigned to. Sasuke didn't see them as a friend so it doesn't matter.

How exactly do you know he was right?
Negga, he was right because he obviously got stronger when he went to Orochimaru.

We don't know how Sasuke could have ended up if he stayed in the village,
Weaker than him going to Orochimaru.

all we have is baseless assumptions to work on what would happen if he stayed in the village. Fact is, Sasuke was still weaker than Itachi even after all that training with Orochimaru.
Doesn't matter, moron. He still got significantly stronger than ever before.

You think that they were trying to stop him from his goal? You honestly think that? They were stopping him to protect him, because they knew what Orochimaru wanted him for in actuality. You think Orochimaru was training Sasuke to fight Itachi? He was training his new vessel so that Sasuke would be strong enough. Yet Sasuke accepted anyway, the only reason Orochimaru didn't get Sasuke's body was because he was sick, if he was healthy Sasuke would have already been taken by Orochimaru.
And that is none of their business. If Sasuke wants to go to Orochimaru then let him.He made it very clear that he doesn't care what he does with his body. As long as he kills Itachi then it doesn't matter.

So now all of a sudden you are actually worried about Sasuke's safety? That's rich coming from a Naruto fanboy. Your minds think alike, I guess.

Naruto didn't even know Bee when Sasuke attacked him, Sasuke didn't even kill the Samurai, and even if he did, there is no proof that Naruto knew about that either. Besides, Sasuke's crimes weren't let go without a price, why do you think he's on this road to redemption?
Not the point, obviously. He doesn't have to know the specific little details to know that Sasuke has clearly done some bad things, and yet Naruto is trying to protect him and his reputation. Yeah, talk about being immature and not thinking like a ninja. Ae(The 4th Raikage) explained it best.
 
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It seems you have no type of common sense here, so allow me to explain it for you in terms that you will understand.

Honestly, i don't even need common sense to own you, and watch, im gonna do it again.

Just because there are people in Sasuke's generation that happens to be in the same year or class as him does not automatically mean that they are his friends. Going by your idiotic logic, if I go to a classroom surrounded by people that I go to school with everyday, then that means that they are automatically my friends.

I knew you were stupid, didn't know you take your stupidity to a whole new level everyday. If they weren't his friends, why did some of them risk their lives for him? Kiba, Shino, Shikamaru, Choji, Lee and even Gaara and Neji, just to rescue him and bring him back. Manga is more than just the pretty pictures you know, They all weren't fighting for shits and giggles, they were fighting so that they could bring him back. Why try to rescue a guy who's not even your friend?

They do not treat him as an actual friend. At the most they will just speak to him. Kiba, Shino, Lee, Hinata, Ino, Sakura, Choji, Shikamaru... these people were never his actual friends. They were his peers and if they ended up on missions together they are comrades.

And yet they sacrificed their lives for him, Neji was severely injured, Choji was on the brink of death, Kiba and Akamaru were both severely injured, if these people are just his comrades or peers, why would they do this for him? They knew he went on his own will, if they weren't his friends they would just let him go.

The only true friend he ever had in that village was Naruto.

So i suppose if people would risk their lives for you, you wouldn't consider them a friend?

Learn the difference and stop wasting my time with your redundant stupidity.

Unlike you, i know there is no difference, i wouldn't have to continue if you didn't continue pestering me with your annoying 5 year old's logic.


Exactly stated above, they are not his 'friends' and you should seriously learn what an actual friend is before making up bullshit about Sasuke. You look stupid.

A friend is someone who has your back and helps you no matter what, is risking your life for someone not called being a friend? Read the manga properly idiot, if you even know how to read that is.



Is that why you can only prove that his only close bonds are in team 7? I explicitly stated that Naruto is excluded so there is no point in bringing him up. Kakashi and Sakura are apart of his team, and naturally when you are apart of someone's team, you help them out.

I have written 5 times of prime examples of people who risked their lives for people, so again i will ask this question, wouldn't you consider someone who risked their lives to help you a friend?


Instead of copying my words like a dumbass, how about you come up with your own shit, boy?

is that what you call copying asswipe? I think you should get your brain checked kid, your obviously retarded if you call two different insults with the same single word you have in your sentence "copying" thats like saying that your copying me by saying regular words like (it, and, you, he, Sasuke, Naruto) because i said that in my post. Go back to school shit head.

And how exactly does this equate to them being his friend? The only reason why they treated Sasuke better was because they were afraid of what was inside of Naruto, and yet those people that treated him better than Naruto still didn't comfort his loneliness, so don't act as if Sasuke had a good childhood when in fact he didn't.

Because your lord turned them down, instead all he thought about was just getting revenge, he didn't want to be their friends, that was the problem, and he still had a better childhood than Naruto thats for sure.


Irrelevant. I don't see how any of this has to do with the village treating him like a friend.

The fact that the village always had their lips on his ass obviously means that he didn't have to be lonely if he didn't want to, he could hang out with those people who rode his d!ck so much. Not only talking about the girls like Sakura, i also mean those male uchihatards in the manga too.


You're obviously missing the point, but I didn't expect any less. Those boys and girls that wanted to be like him are still NOT HIS FRIENDS nor should Sasuke give any shit about some random fanboys/fangirls.

No YOUR missing the point, these dozens of kids who admired him could have kept him company, the only reason he accepted Naruto as a friend was because they could both relate in the pain they both felt. Not anyones fault but his that he didn't try to make friends with his **** suckers just because they weren't like him.


It was a mission. Nothing more and nothing less. There was no personal vendetta or feelings during that time. The only person who actually has any type of relationship with Sasuke was Naruto and Sakura. Kiba and the others were doing it because they were assigned to. Sasuke didn't see them as a friend so it doesn't matter.[/QUOT]

Once again, would you consider someone who was risking their lives for you a friend? They all could have easily rejected, but they didn't, obviously they knew it would be a dangerous mission, so why did they go? Because they consider Sasuke a friend, how do you know he didn't consider them friends? We don't know that for sure.


Negga, he was right because he obviously got stronger when he went to Orochimaru.

Again, how do we know how strong he could have gotten if he didn't go, its unknown, and also, even when training with Orochimaru, he still wasn't strong enough to beat Itachi. Itachi only let him win, like obito said, if Itachi went all out, Sasuke would be dead.


Weaker than him going to Orochimaru.

Baseless assumption.


Doesn't matter, moron. He still got significantly stronger than ever before.

Except it does matter, retard. The only reason he wanted go was to get strong enough to beat Itachi, and yet he still wasn't strong enough to be on par with Itachi. He wanted to get the power to beat Itachi, and yet even Oro didn't make him strong enough to be on Itachi's level.


And that is none of their business. If Sasuke wants to go to Orochimaru then let him.He made it very clear that he doesn't care what he does with his body. As long as he kills Itachi then it doesn't matter.

So apparently its none of their business to protect their friend? Sasuke was obviously confused by his thirst for power, they didn't care if he was going to gain some power from Orochimaru, its the other part they were worried about. If you had a close friend, wouldn't you do everything in your power to make sure that they wouldn't do the wrong thing which could be bad for you also?

So now all of a sudden you are actually worried about Sasuke's safety? That's rich coming from a Naruto fanboy. Your minds think alike, I guess.

Oh the irony, trust me unlike you Sasuke fappers all the other fanbases have unique people, you people aren't satisfied until everyone says "awrrhh mah gawd lawd sauce is da solo gawd" like you do every day.


Not the point, obviously. He doesn't have to know the specific little details to know that Sasuke has clearly done some bad things, and yet Naruto is trying to protect him and his reputation. Yeah, talk about being immature and not thinking like a ninja. Ae(The 4th Raikage) explained it best.

Example of any criminal act that Sasuke has done that Naruto hasn't heard about besides the assault on the Kages? Not like any of the kage's died, the situation would have been different then. You want to talk about being immature and not thinking like a ninja? turn right back to your favourite bud, i dont think moaning like an emo kid who's just hit puberty when he found out the truth about his brother was very mature. Destroying a village for doing something he had done himself doesn't sound very mature either, nor does it sound very ninja-like. More like a psychopath.
 

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Honestly, i don't even need common sense to own you, and watch, im gonna do it again.



I knew you were stupid, didn't know you take your stupidity to a whole new level everyday. If they weren't his friends, why did some of them risk their lives for him? Kiba, Shino, Shikamaru, Choji, Lee and even Gaara and Neji, just to rescue him and bring him back. Manga is more than just the pretty pictures you know, They all weren't fighting for shits and giggles, they were fighting so that they could bring him back. Why try to rescue a guy who's not even your friend?

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Honestly, i don't even need common sense to own you, and watch, im gonna do it again.
Honestly, i don't even need common sense to own you, and watch, im gonna do it again.
Honestly, i don't even need common sense to own you, and watch, im gonna do it again.
Honestly, i don't even need common sense to own you, and watch, im gonna do it again.
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Well, thanks for proving my point, and thanks for stopping by.

EDIT: Blood Teller already gave you the scan of Shikamaru explaining that they are not actual friends and that it is just a mission, so he pretty much stomped 90% of your shit post.
 

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Well, thanks for proving my point, and thanks for stopping by.

Thanks for agreeing that your less intelligent than a senseless person XD XD XD XD XD

EDIT: Blood Teller already gave you the scan of Shikamaru explaining that they are not actual friends and that it is just a mission, so he pretty much stomped 90% of your shit post.

Shikamaru never said it was just for the sake of the mission, he said it was because Sasuke was his comrade, and that was just his own opinion, not everyone's, how do you know everyone feels the same way about it? Do you see the exclamation mark and the question mark from kiba, choji, neji and Naruto, they were all obviously surprised at this. So maybe i might have taken a wrong with shikamaru, but the rest are different, so my "shit post" still beats your retarded ass thank you very much
 

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One of the reasons why naruto sucks as a character

Funnily enough, I consider his determination and refusal of giving up on saving his friend one of his few saving graces.

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No, i dislike Sasuke for the fact that even though he knew Orochimaru just wanted him for his body, he still wanted to go, like what idiot would want to train under a master who wants to control your body after he's trained you enough? If Oro wasn't sick that probably would have been the case.

Also for the fact that he left his friends who cared for him as if he was their family just so he could kill Itachi who was actually a good guy and was protecting the leaf, and then he decides to go destroy the leaf village which his brother was trying to protect..

One of the most ignorant posts I've read here, and that's saying a lot.

Have you even read the manga, and specifically Sasuke's story?
 

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No, i dislike Sasuke for the fact that even though he knew Orochimaru just wanted him for his body, he still wanted to go, like what idiot would want to train under a master who wants to control your body after he's trained you enough? If Oro wasn't sick that probably would have been the case.

Also for the fact that he left his friends who cared for him as if he was their family just so he could kill Itachi who was actually a good guy and was protecting the leaf, and then he decides to go destroy the leaf village which his brother was trying to protect..Seriously? There is much much much more, but i'd prefer to stay on topic.

You know there is a chance that Sasuke was bi.
 

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True, Nardo seemed to have the hots for Sasuke in part 2. But the biggest thing that happened in part 2 was Itachi, obviously.
 
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