Smh Minato.

WHAT?

  • YES.He's the new Ass-pull king

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Do you realize how fast Minato was able to gather chakra? That's not something anyone can do using their normal chakra. I'm not saying Minato is using SM at that point. He is using senjutsu chakra instead of his own chakra. Senjutsu chakra =/ SM.
How can you know what Minato need atm? I mean for example; he had 1900 Chakra point atm. and he needs to 2000 chakra for TP Kurama. So ? I'm sorry but it's not fact. You could be right but You re just guessing. You can't "prove" anything about it. And there's huge plot-hole atm :)
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

How can you know what Minato need atm? I mean for example; he had 1900 Chakra point atm. and he needs to 2000 chakra for TP Kurama. So ? I'm sorry but it's not fact. You could be right but You re just guessing. You can't "prove" anything about it. And there's huge plot-hole atm :)
It's not that i'm guessing but it's pretty obvious that every time a shinobi uses a jutsu, his/her chakra pool becomes smaller. In Minato's case, b4 the fight with Obito, he was suppressing Kushina's seal. From there, we know what happened right? He even Teleported TBB and summoned Bunta. I have not seen a shinobi capable of gathering chakra that fast. If you have a scan of a shinobi capable of gathering chakra that fast to share, then much better. If there is indeed a shinobi capable of doing that, then that shinobi will not run out of chakra because he/she can immediately replenish his/her chakra..
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Talking about effectiveness/usefulness of a mode then it's pretty clear that BM is more useful because naruto can add his senjutsu chakra to make it effective against juubito. While it can give a more powerful attack, Minato can also share his chakra to the SA using BM.
Honestly, I thought were arguing about Minato not having Sennin Mode not the usefulness between modes. Sure Minato could share chakra in Bijuu mode, but neither he or Naruto could or would have been able to take Obito down. So at that very battle scene with the alliance clearly standing by and watching, Sennin Mode was definitly the much more "useful" choice.

ATM Sage mode was necessary, moreso than Bijuu Mode, otherwise they'd simply be wasting chakra.
 
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Do you realize how fast Minato was able to gather chakra? That's not something anyone can do using their normal chakra. I'm not saying Minato is using SM at that point. He is using senjutsu chakra instead of his own chakra. Senjutsu chakra =/ SM.



Honestly, I thought were arguing about Minato not having Sennin Mode not the usefulness between modes. Sure Minato could share chakra in Bijuu mode, but neither he or Naruto could or would have been able to take Obito down. So at that very battle scene with the alliance clearly standing by and watching, Sennin Mode was definitly the much more "useful" choice.

ATM Sage mode was necessary, moreso than Bijuu Mode, otherwise they'd simply be wasting chakra.
We are. My point is that it's not necessary for him to use SM during juubito fight because BM is more useful. BM can function the same as SM but much stronger because Naruto can just add his senjutsu chakra and it's also capable of sharing its chakra to the alliance. It makes sense why he is not using SM at that point.
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

We are. My point is that it's not necessary for him to use SM during juubito fight because BM is more useful. BM can function the same as SM but much stronger because Naruto can just add his senjutsu chakra and it's also capable of sharing its chakra to the alliance. It makes sense why he is not using SM at that point.
I give up, I'm getting nowhere with you fast. I do not see how sharing chakra and bijuu mode would help Naruto defeat Obito. At that very moment if Naruto did not have sage mode to add chakra to that rasengan Obito would have brushed off that attack like he did before with the Enton Rasen-Shuriken. Now at that very moment with alliance not jumping in the fight you cannot tell me that bijuu mode is still the most "useful." They attacked Jin Obito like three times all without senjutsu and got nowhere.

Even with Naruto in BSM it wasn't enough, therefore Sasuke jumped in with his senjutsu loop hole. I literally mean at that given moment not all through the war like your tryna do. Now tell me, at that moment which mode was much more necessary, also why hadn't Minato switched if he had Sennin Modo?
 

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Re: last time Fukasaku said.....

So we know that Fukasaku is the one who teaches how to use sage mode and he even think that naruto learned faster than Jiraiya he also said that jiraiya and only naruto can use that technique

so

what


happened?



and now Minato have SM for real??Ass Pull Kishi
Does it matter? Minato doesn't have arms, no matter what techniques he MAY know, they're not being used.
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

I give up, I'm getting nowhere with you fast. I do not see how sharing chakra and bijuu mode would help Naruto defeat Obito. At that very moment if Naruto did not have sage mode to add chakra to that rasengan Obito would have brushed off that attack like he did before with the Enton Rasen-Shuriken. Now at that very moment with alliance not jumping in the fight you cannot tell me that bijuu mode is still the most "useful." They attacked Jin Obito like three times all without senjutsu and got nowhere.

Even with Naruto in BSM it wasn't enough, therefore Sasuke jumped in with his senjutsu loop hole. I literally mean at that given moment not all through the war like your tryna do. Now tell me, at that moment which mode was much more necessary, also why hadn't Minato switched if he had Sennin Modo?
also why hadn't Minato switched if he had Sennin Modo
We are going in circle here..:) SM is needed to hurt Jubiito but they needed power to beat him.

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The scan above shows Minato asking Naruto to add senjutsu to his giant rasengan but even with that rasengan size, Jubiito was able to defend it.

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Why would Minato use SM when he perhaps can't create a rasengan as big as the one he used in BM? A few pages later, naruto decided to add senjutsu to a much more powerful attack and that was the bijuudama. Minato supported that by combining his bijuudama to Naruto. They needed such power that they would combine both their bijuudama's. If Minato were to use SM, how would it fare to his rasengan that Naruto added senjutsu? Do you think his rasengan in SM is more powerful than that of the BM rasengan fused with senjutsu?

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

We are going in circle here..:) SM is needed to hurt Jubiito but they needed power to beat him.

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The scan above shows Minato asking Naruto to add senjutsu to his giant rasengan but even with that rasengan size, Jubiito was able to defend it.

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Why would Minato use SM when he perhaps can't create a rasengan as big as the one he used in BM? A few pages later, naruto decided to add senjutsu to a much more powerful attack and that was the bijuudama. Minato supported that by combining his bijuudama to Naruto. They needed such power that they would combine both their bijuudama's. If Minato were to use SM, how would it fare to his rasengan that Naruto added senjutsu? Do you think his rasengan in SM is more powerful than that of the BM rasengan fused with senjutsu?

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Yep I'm done here.. I'm going to bed because I hate pointless circles..

Btw Naruto was only in Sennin mode when his rasengan knocked Obito outta the sky into the ground. Clearly not that much power was needed to beat him, they simply required a direct hit, not Bijuu mode. Basically in the end what they needed was Sennin mode, which in turn grants a power boost or multiplier..

Regardless this is still an asspull..
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

come on man it was an asspull. look at these haters they are all butthurt maybe it was pulled from their asses.
 

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Your scan isnt clear. It was Tsunade's visual. Which is too normal. Naruto hasn't any parent or relative to compare him. But Jiraiya which is his former teacher / and his Father. and at this stage Naruto Surpassed Minato vs 3rd Raikage in " speed " its too normal. And about Frogs, Ofc they would know about Minato since he's able to summon them. and jiraiya. But Toads didnt mentioned about anything and they just spoke about just " him " in your post. Which is Jiraiya, it wasn't " THEM ". Ma Pa said, he just surpassed " HIM " in SM . Your agruement is not valid sorry but you have to deal with it. And wait for another explanation in future chapters.
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

And my 2nd question?
He hasn't used it until now in the war because he didn't need to. He was protecting the alliance fom the juubi & obito, he wasn't fighting directly against obito. Plus all he needed was kurama cloak + FTG.

If he did use SM against juubi jin obito. Naruto, sasuke, tobirama wouldn't even jump in...since naruto hit juubito using his SM while tobirama FTG'd to him.

But yeah main reason was because minato was protecting the alliance since only his FTG could transport that many people in one go...
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

1. Minato entered Sage Mode effortless in about a second. He could saw how a direct attack with the Rasengan didn't kill Tobi. Since Minato is a smart man, if Kishi wanted to him to have Sage Mode at that point(and he would have had it since the dead can't train), then Kishi would have made him use it. The fact that Minato let Tobi escape without taking a second to go Sage Mode and then blitz him with an attack that would kill him is contributing to the bad writing.
Hashirama didn't use SM against Madara until he absolutely had to. Jiraiya didnt use sm against Pain until he had his back against the wall.
Minato almost effortlessly took the fox out of Obito's control and damaged him. Don't forget Obito also had an S/T on his own. If Minato had pursued him, it would have turned to a cat and mouse game, a huge waste of time considering the fact that kurama was still wrecking the village. In short, he didnt use sm against Obito because Obito hardly pushed him.
 

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Just look in terms of math

Jman=sm=teacher of minato=teach him=naruto born=jman his teacher=trained sm= ....

Yall go out your way to deny the truth just like most Americans

(Im american)
 

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Overlooked Minato feat

red line indicates distance he throws the kunai, probably using Sage Mode, looks about five miles away

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Circle shows that the blast reached them, even being miles away, which means Minato blocked a blast with a five mile radius, saving the Alliance
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Without Minato, manga = over
 

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Re: Overlooked Minato feat

Tobirama= Fodderised by a non juubi jinchuricki Madara

Minato= Fodeerised by a Juubi jinchuricki Madara

Therefore, Minato> Tobirama?
 
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