SM vs Genjutsu

[Wolfus]

Hey guys. I'll show here that SM users can have an advantage against genjutsu.
As we know, those how master Sage mode have learned how to absorve natural energy arround them and balance this energy with they chakra and their chakra system/flow, creating senjutsu chakra and entering sage mode.

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To break free from a genjutsu, one can disturb their chakra flow to try to wake up. Howeve, that's hard in a genjutsu, but it can be done. Also, another option is to have an ally to place his chakra into the one who is under the genjutsu. This new(outside) chakra will also disturb the chakra flow, waking someone from a genjutsu.

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So, if someone who has mastered SM gets caught in a genjutsu, he is able to escape it by absorving natural energy and balancing him with his own. This would be an outside energy, disturbing the SM user's chakra flow, and waking him up from a genjutsu, considering that natural energy is not their own chakra when it is outside. SM users have a great chakra control, because mastering SM and controlling natural energy is very hard. So, if they are under a genjutsu, they might be able to do that and escape from it.
This is it, I think with a lot of focus, one can use the natural energy(once SM is mastered) to escape a genjutsu. What do you think? If I made a mistake, correct me please. My memory is not very good, so I easily forget stuff. Thanks, everyone.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

Yes thats true but how many ninjas in history mastered natures energy only a hand full. So basically most ninja are still ****ed.

 

[Miyata]

Lol true I guess

 

[Stark]

I don't think so.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

An argument can be made for the "sixth sense" Sage mode affords being able to dispel Genjutsu.

 

[Wolfus]

I don't think so.

Would you say why? It's important to prove your point.

 

[Arcaneos510X]

Sage mode dispelling average gen, well its something to i think about i suppose yet still a interesting concept i will rep you when i get my computer fixed as it is difficult to do so via my phone

 

[Xicer]

I don't think so. When Hashirama fought Madara at VoE, he thought he had killed him. We know that Madara was alive long enough to train Obito. The only way Hashirama could have thought that he had killed Madara when he didn't is genjutsu, because he is too skilled to fall for some cheap trick. We all know that Hashirama had sage mode as well.

 

[VongolaX]

Very high level genjustu's can't be easily counter, it all depends on the user.

Just look at Hashirama vs. Madara, he definetly cast a genjustu on Hashirama.

Hahsirama if anything truely mastered sage mode

 

[Howdidthesenjudie]

concept makes perfect sense, pulling it off in a high level gen is a different story, I know the reason for this thread and I doubt it would work in Tsuky.

 

[Wolfus]

I don't think so. When Hashirama fought Madara at VoE, he thought he had killed him. We know that Madara was alive long enough to train Obito. The only way Hashirama could have thought that he had killed Madara when he didn't is genjutsu, because he is too skilled to fall for some cheap trick. We all know that Hashirama had sage mode as well.

Very high level genjustu's can't be easily counter, it all depends on the user.

Just look at Hashirama vs. Madara, he definetly cast a genjustu on Hashirama.

Hahsirama if anything truely mastered sage mode

But if you pay attention to their fight, hashirama had just run out of SM when madara's EMS was shown(when he probably used the genjutsu). Besides, if it was a genjutsu, it was perfect, hashirama didn't even realize he was in a genjutsu, so he wouldn't try to escape it. But I agree, more powerful genjutsus would be harder to escape from. Still, it's possible.

 

[Wolfus]

concept makes perfect sense, pulling it off in a high level gen is a different story, I know the reason for this thread and I doubt it would work in Tsuky.

Yeah, of course, high lvl genjutsus would be harder to escape, but it is still possible. The reason for this thread is not related to tsukuyomi at all, if that's what you meant. Tsukuyomi is on a whole different lvl.
Nice sign, by the way.

 

[Howdidthesenjudie]

concept makes sense, pulling it off in a high level gen is a different story, I know the reason for this thread and I doubt it would work in Tsuky.

sorry for double post

 

[foxyladyland]

yeah Sage mode can break you out of genjutsu with the gathering of chakra from around you..
but Genjutsu can still hurt you.. especially in Tsukuyomi which only takes 1 second. :itachi:
someone like Jugo randomly gathers nature chakra so he could break out of it on his own..
does Naruto need the Ma/Pa toads to gather nature energy though.. Jiraiya did I think.. <_< idk.. maybe that's not right.

 

[VongolaX]

But if you pay attention to their fight, hashirama had just run out of SM when madara's EMS was shown(when he probably used the genjutsu). Besides, if it was a genjutsu, it was perfect, hashirama didn't even realize he was in a genjutsu, so he wouldn't try to escape it. But I agree, more powerful genjutsus would be harder to escape from. Still, it's possible.

No he wasn't, look here at hashirama's head:

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Next page of cut scene genjsutu fight(hashirama wasn't aware)

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Genjustu dispelled immediately after madara falls:

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[Wolfus]

Ok then, but as I said, still possible. Hashirama din't know of the genjutsu. It is still very hard to escape high lvl genjutsus.

 

[VongolaX]

Ok then, but as I said, still possible. Hashirama din't know of the genjutsu. It is still very hard to escape high lvl genjutsus.

fair enough mate