SM Pain Arc Narita vs Current Sakura

[Uverdore9]

But if the chakra links are found in every cell, it reasons to say the blades must pierce the top layers to reach the lower ones. To reach the lower cells would entail the blades completely piercing through the layers above it, which effectively busts a cell even if it's not disintegrated. I don't think Sakura's getting hit by the jutsu anytime soon, but it'd put her down if it ever did. It'd damage her badly, and Byakugo could not possibly function without the chakra links that allow her to facilitate moving her reserve chakra throughout her body.

But the thing is, the image shows the chakra system being cut, only.

Cutting the chakra system won't affect her because a TSB rod which disintegrates, couldn't impede her regeneration progress.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

But the thing is, the image shows the chakra system being cut, only.

Cutting the chakra system won't affect her because a TSB rod which disintegrates, couldn't impede her regeneration progress.

There's more cells under the ones which were displayed & Tsunade said that all of Kakuzu's chakra networks were destroyed, we know the chakra networks seep much deeper than the skin because chakra moves throughout the inside of the body. It only makes sense for the Rasenshuriken to penetrate entire cells if it must reach lower layers of cells to strike every chakra link. The fact that it isn't seen in Tsunade's example has no weight in saying otherwise because, chronologically, these are steps that would occur after the initial cells' have their chakra networks severed, which is what the image is displaying.

TSB Rods only disintegrates select areas, & the surrounding areas of the wound maintain their chakra networks required to facilitate healing on the lost areas. The harm done by TSB Rods is effectively no different than any other tool that scoops a chunk out of a Byakugo user. In Rasenshuriken's case, there is nothing left to facilitate healing at all since the entire body's chakra network is destroyed opposed to one area.

 

[Uverdore9]

There's more cells under the ones which were displayed & Tsunade said that all of Kakuzu's chakra networks were destroyed, we know the chakra networks seep much deeper than the skin because chakra moves throughout the inside of the body. It only makes sense for the Rasenshuriken to penetrate entire cells if it must reach lower layers of cells to strike every chakra link. The fact that it isn't seen in Tsunade's example has no weight in saying otherwise because, chronologically, these are steps that would occur after the initial cells' have their chakra networks severed, which is what the image is displaying.

TSB Rods only disintegrates select areas, & the surrounding areas of the wound maintain their chakra networks required to facilitate healing on the lost areas. The harm done by TSB Rods is effectively no different than any other tool that scoops a chunk out of a Byakugo user. In Rasenshuriken's case, there is nothing left to facilitate healing at all since the entire body's chakra network is destroyed opposed to one area.

But the image clearly shows the difference. If it was a literal cellular attack then it'd have been shown in the image.

Byakugo is a sealing jutsu, it works in a seperate manner as opposed to the conventional chakra flow system. Minato's chakra was sealed in the Biju Seal and later could make an appearance in the form of his astral body.

Insinuating that, seals don't require chakra flow system to operate.

 

[EZQ]

I'm just going to assume you meant to write SM Naruto. Sakura negs him, not low dif, she literally negs him.

:l

OT: Naruto wins.

Sound genjutsu + 3 boss toads summon to counter Katsuyu + Rasen shuriken to paralized Sakura.

 

[salamander uchiha]

No... fusaku stated that Jiraiya cant enter sage mode on his own because he cant maintain it without them, Naruto was a perfect sage and thus obviously a better sage than jiraiya... Pa couldnt fuse with naruto because of kyuubi... SM NAruto > SM jiraiya and saying otherwise is showing glaring bias with no recourse...

You're clearly misreading the manga since the SM training itself entails entering SM on your own. Fukusaku made it clear Jiraiya went through the same training as Naruto. They could bothe enter the same state Jiraiya having Ma and Pa meant they would keep him in SM and assist. Naruto not having Ma and Pa meants he would have to use Shafow clones to make up for it. The difference was Jiraiya couldn't enter it completely perfect so retained some toadish features, however Jiraiya is the superior sage and combatant, Naruto lacks the jutsu arsenal or variety of Jiraiya.

as far as the "fanfic" thats LITERALLY how sakura dies... she gets negg'd low diff'd at best.. and even if she DID come close to beating naruto, he is going KN6 and shitting mountains on sakura

Again with the fanfic read OP's instructions before shitposting.

 

[MissingFUCKINGnin]

You're clearly misreading the manga since the SM training itself entails entering SM on your own. Fukusaku made it clear Jiraiya went through the same training as Naruto. They could bothe enter the same state Jiraiya having Ma and Pa meant they would keep him in SM and assist. Naruto not having Ma and Pa meants he would have to use Shafow clones to make up for it. The difference was Jiraiya couldn't enter it completely perfect so retained some toadish features, however Jiraiya is the superior sage and combatant, Naruto lacks the jutsu arsenal or variety of Jiraiya.




Again with the fanfic read OP's instructions before shitposting.

No man, Naruto is the superior sage... Fukasaku even said it himself during the pein fight that Naruto surpassed Jiraiya...

this whole side tangent is moot though because pein arc naruto negs sakura... she literally has no way to hit him, naruto is much faster, actually has jutsu and has good battle tactics... sakura just has a really hard punch, and regen... but her regen wont help her when she gets shredded by a rasenshuriken

 

[salamander uchiha]

No man, Naruto is the superior sage... Fukasaku even said it himself during the pein fight that Naruto surpassed Jiraiya...

No he's not Pain himself was nerfed anyway Fukusaku meant entering SM without visible signs. However Jiraiya is the superior sage he has an arsenal of jutsu at his disposal while Naruto has SCJ and Rasengan/shuriken. Jiraiya shits on his ass.

this whole side tangent is moot though because pein arc naruto negs sakura... she literally has no way to hit him, naruto is much faster, actually has jutsu and has good battle tactics... sakura just has a really hard punch, and regen... but her regen wont help her when she gets shredded by a rasenshuriken

Sakura's speed is tiers above SM Naruto's especially pain arc Naruto. Have you not seens the speed she was moving with to dodge Kaguya's arm whereas RSM Naruto was caught by it. Now I don't hold she's as fast as RSM Naruto but she's very fast. Her regen recovers any damage, Rasen shuriken is useless besides she can summon Katsyu and merge with it/ hide in it and wash Naruto with acid. He cant really do anything to her btw you act as if Sakura would stand there while Naruto does all this.

So I'd advise you to leave the fanfic at the door. Bye.

 

[MissingFUCKINGnin]

No he's not Pain himself was nerfed anyway Fukusaku meant entering SM without visible signs. However Jiraiya is the superior sage he has an arsenal of jutsu at his disposal while Naruto has SCJ and Rasengan/shuriken. Jiraiya shits on his ass.



Sakura's speed is tiers above SM Naruto's especially pain arc Naruto. Have you not seens the speed she was moving with to dodge Kaguya's arm whereas RSM Naruto was caught by it. Now I don't hold she's as fast as RSM Naruto but she's very fast. Her regen recovers any damage, Rasen shuriken is useless besides she can summon Katsyu and merge with it/ hide in it and wash Naruto with acid. He cant really do anything to her btw you act as if Sakura would stand there while Naruto does all this.

So I'd advise you to leave the fanfic at the door. Bye.

Lol, these sakura fans bruh... sakura has nothing against the sound paralysis genjutsu. She will be still and get a rasenshuriken shoved in her face

 

[salamander uchiha]

Lol, these sakura fans bruh... sakura has nothing against the sound paralysis genjutsu. She will be still and get a rasenshuriken shoved in her face

What're you talking about for that Naruro has to be able to summon the two sages(I'll wait for the scan showing he can) and she has to stand around while Fukusaku and Shima try to build up for it. It takes them a long time even then Sakura has shown superior genjutsu resistance than perfect Jins. She broke out of genjutsu in the last whereas Naruro couldn't. On top of that you act as if Rasen shrike can even hit her, a drained Nagato''s deva path was dodging the attacks. Yet Sakurai has far superior speed as demonstrated in the war arc. Ride Naruto's nutsack all you like I'm not interested in your fanfics. Either way I'm done entertaining your folly.

BTW I'm glad you dropped the stupid argument of Jiraiya being better than Naruto.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

But the image clearly shows the difference. If it was a literal cellular attack then it'd have been shown in the image.

Byakugo is a sealing jutsu, it works in a seperate manner as opposed to the conventional chakra flow system. Minato's chakra was sealed in the Biju Seal and later could make an appearance in the form of his astral body.

Insinuating that, seals don't require chakra flow system to operate.

What is there to imply the squares aren't cells? I know it doesn't line up to any human's cells, but it's just a basic visual representation designed to show the main point. The fact that Tsunade says cellular attack multiple times should reason that those chakra-links are held within cells. Tsunade was giving a formal(look at her word usage) description on how she believed the attack to work, so why would it be hyperbole?

You kind of have a point with the seals, though that was a specific function of Minato's seal. Byakugo is just a seal for the chakra, so she'd still have to transfer that chakra elsewhere through some medium. The whole reason Minato's chakra didn't need to go through any mediums is because it was already where it needed to be(sealed alongside Kurama's in a location where everyone's chakra manifests), whereas Byakugo's chakra needs to reach all throughout the body and beyond the seal.

Counterpoint for seals: When Neji simply blocked off Naruto's chakra opposed to actually destroying his chakra system, Kurama's massive amount of chakra unclogged Naruto's chakra system and allowed it to flow again. That means when Naruto pulls from Kurama, who's in the seal, Kurama's chakra must go through his chakra system.

You can even see Kurama's chakra work its way from Naruto's seal & through his system.

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[Uverdore9]

What is there to imply the squares aren't cells? I know it doesn't line up to any human's cells, but it's just a basic visual representation designed to show the main point. The fact that Tsunade says cellular attack multiple times should reason that those chakra-links are held within cells. Tsunade was giving a formal(look at her word usage) description on how she believed the attack to work, so why would it be hyperbole?

You kind of have a point with the seals, though that was a specific function of Minato's seal. Byakugo is just a seal for the chakra, so she'd still have to transfer that chakra elsewhere through some medium. The whole reason Minato's chakra didn't need to go through any mediums is because it was already where it needed to be(sealed alongside Kurama's in a location where everyone's chakra manifests), whereas Byakugo's chakra needs to reach all throughout the body and beyond the seal.

Counterpoint for seals: When Neji simply blocked off Naruto's chakra opposed to actually destroying his chakra system, Kurama's massive amount of chakra unclogged Naruto's chakra system and allowed it to flow again. That means when Naruto pulls from Kurama, who's in the seal, Kurama's chakra must go through his chakra system.

You can even see Kurama's chakra work its way from Naruto's seal & through his system.

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Okay you have a point.

But I think Byakugo works differently to Kurama's. The rods Madara used had the property of disrupting the chakra system, so much that the victim cannot even move.

Sakura could move there-after, which imply a difference between the functioning.

 

[Tapey]

What're you talking about for that Naruro has to be able to summon the two sages(I'll wait for the scan showing he can) and she has to stand around while Fukusaku and Shima try to build up for it. It takes them a long time even then Sakura has shown superior genjutsu resistance than perfect Jins. She broke out of genjutsu in the last whereas Naruro couldn't. On top of that you act as if Rasen shrike can even hit her, a drained Nagato''s deva path was dodging the attacks. Yet Sakurai has far superior speed as demonstrated in the war arc. Ride Naruto's nutsack all you like I'm not interested in your fanfics. Either way I'm done entertaining your folly.

BTW I'm glad you dropped the stupid argument of Jiraiya being better than Naruto.

I love following your posts not because you know what youre talking about or anything, but because you say the dumbest shit and it always brings a smile to my face.

OT: I believe SM Naruto should win, however if he cant before he runs out of SM time, Sakura wins easy

 

[Animegoin]

Literally any level Naruto beats Sakura.

 

[salamander uchiha]

I love following your posts not because you know what youre talking about or anything, but because you say the dumbest shit and it always brings a smile to my face.

OT: I believe SM Naruto should win, however if he cant before he runs out of SM time, Sakura wins easy

I appreciate the criticism but I wanted to see proof of what I said being dumb. A claim holds no weight unless you can substantiate it so where is it?

Normally don't neg rep but you deserve some.

 

[MissingFUCKINGnin]

academy naruto mid diffs kaguya arc sakura based on feats tbh :elmo:

mizuki level forest taju bushin overwhelms her

 

[Jinrou]

I love following your posts not because you know what youre talking about or anything, but because you say the dumbest shit and it always brings a smile to my face.

OT: I believe SM Naruto should win, however if he cant before he runs out of SM time, Sakura wins easy

Having a rough start to my day but this legit made me laugh lmao. Thanks.

 

[Uverdore9]

Having a rough start to my day but this legit made me laugh lmao. Thanks.

What was "rough" with your day?

 

[Jinrou]

What was "rough" with your day?

Is lol.. Got home ridiculously late the previous night, not enough sleep so i won't get late to my destination today but due to the damn rain that's been falling for like 3 days straight i not only arrived late but i'm also wet lmao. Not to mention the amount of code i'll have to read through to see where i can fit in exceptions and note i'm not that versed in programming.. i'm like 45%. Rough day.

Just opened NB by the side to see if it would help me calm down tbh.

 

[Anbu Knights]

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All of this deep RS philosophy is not needed when Tsunade herself claims that healing the damage done from it with medical ninjutsu is impossible.

If When Sakura gets hit by RS it's game over.

 

[salamander uchiha]

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All of this deep RS philosophy is not needed when Tsunade herself claims that healing the damage done from it with medical ninjutsu is impossible.

If When Sakura gets hit by RS it's game over.

Mate genesis rebirth isn't medical jutsu and neither does it work/ function on the same mechanics. If you were talking about mystic palms/operations etc then I would agree with you.