[VS] SM Naruto Vs MS Sasuke

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

You don't know that, as he could have simply been taken out of his Susanoo because he wouldn't be completely defeated, as he was an Edo Tensei.

Amaterasu's range is the databook range of 5 meters, I believe? Sasuke can't leave, or he's forfeiting the battle. The purpose of the smoke bomb for Naruto would be to summon more clones, toads, and set up Frog Song, which would eventually defeat Sasuke. Once Sasuke misses the first Amaterasu, he loses all chances of winning. I'd like to think characters can't run away as they're bloodlusted or have an objective to fulfill, unless stated otherwise in the topic.

Naruto has toads for long range attacks and I doubt Susanoo would fully protect the hawk, along with staying mobile. Actually, Sasuke probably won't ever get on the hawk, or fly away a reasonable distance. Naruto just needs to use the smoke bomb for an instant, and then use his superior Sage Mode speed to begin an offensive. Naruto having his clones disrupted doesn't matter, as he only needs that form of Sage Mode for a moment, and then can hide to gather more natural energy. Toads will fight while he does that and they can also utilize smoke bombs to protect themselves, or simply desummon themselves.

Naruto can sacrifice the body part, has more endurance with Sage Mode, and there's low chance Sasuke would start with Sage Mode and bypass Naruto's need to form a single hand seal. Obito's also shown the ability to sense Amaterasu being used, so Naruto has a bunch of time to summon clone shields, or use a smoke bomb.

Those two little buggers take a huge amount of chakra to summon, he'd probably be using up his sage chakra and have to get more from one of his clones. Their genjutsu takes a bit of time to synchronise, and sasuke can just susanoo slash their way to disrupt them when he starts to feel the preliminary effects. Added to the fact they have to be still to do it makes it dangerous for them to try.

It would be silly to summon large toads. They are just large targets for amaterasu. They pretty much can't dodge. So they'll gain him no time to gather enough chakra.

Obito had rikudou chakra, that's a different scale. He could actually feel sasuke gathering chakra to his right eye. Regular sage mode has shown no such feat. Even sage madara got caught in amaterasu.

Even if naruto gets on an offensive in taijutsu, sasuke can switch on susanoo anytime he wants, so he's in no real danger. Then there's full body chidori, or his 5m chidori arm transformation, he can just tear apart clones.

Then theres kirin.

Naruto will give him somewhat of a fight. But sasuke just has the greater arsenal. This version of naruto just doesn't have the right firepower and sage chakra control to win/battle susanoo. Sasuke would win.

 

[KidGamer65]

What is war arc SM Naruto, he had KM then. it's like saying the last SM Naruto. It really means nothing.

Lmao? Dafuq? So what? That is the strongest SM Naruto that exists in the Manga, so you should use that one instead of a weakened one. It's really that simple.

Also by feats, war arc SM Naruto has not shown any feats that are improvements from pain arc SM naruto.

Dafuq?

-Chou Oodama FRS?
-3 FRS? (2 before)
-Ability to merge with Ma and Pa.
-Kurama support for Genjutsu.


Lol.

 

[Veggie the Tormentor]

Those two little buggers take a huge amount of chakra to summon, he'd probably be using up his sage chakra and have to get more from one of his clones. Their genjutsu takes a bit of time to synchronise, and sasuke can just susanoo slash their way to disrupt them when he starts to feel the preliminary effects. Added to the fact they have to be still to do it makes it dangerous for them to try.

It would be silly to summon large toads. They are just large targets for amaterasu. They pretty much can't dodge. So they'll gain him no time to gather enough chakra.

Obito had rikudou chakra, that's a different scale. He could actually feel sasuke gathering chakra to his right eye. Regular sage mode has shown no such feat. Even sage madara got caught in amaterasu.

Even if naruto gets on an offensive in taijutsu, sasuke can switch on susanoo anytime he wants, so he's in no real danger. Then there's full body chidori, or his 5m chidori arm transformation, he can just tear apart clones.

Then theres kirin.

Naruto will give him somewhat of a fight. But sasuke just has the greater arsenal. This version of naruto just doesn't have the right firepower and sage chakra control to win/battle susanoo. Sasuke would win.

He doesn't need to tap into his sage chakra if he doesn't want to and doesn't need to summon them immediately. There's no preliminary effects, Sasuke's Susanoo doesn't have a ranged slash at that point, and they would be hiding away while Sasuke is distracted with clones, or toads. Large toads won't die immediately to Amaterasu, they'll use a large scale jutsu before they succumb, Naruto can warn them to dispel with sensing, and it'd suck more chakra out of Sasuke. Naruto won't have any chakra issues and he's not the one that has to be spamming jutsu.

Sage Madara dealt with Amaterasu accordingly and it wasn't a threat. Sasuke won't sense the threat until he's already been hit and knocked out by a Sage Mode enhanced punch. Clones have shown durability, Sasuke wouldn't notice the threat, and they can dodge, or use projectiles enhanced with Sage Mode strength.

Sasuke won't have time to use Kirin and wouldn't know where to use it if Naruto hides away. Again, Naruto will use a smoke bomb or create Shadow Clones before getting hit by Amaterasu. You've also already said Naruto can just sacrifice a limb. Amaterasu's been totally useless in the manga and won't get stronger against the main character.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Lmao? Dafuq? So what? That is the strongest SM Naruto that exists in the Manga, so you should use that one instead of a weakened one. It's really that simple.

The strongest SM that exists in the manga would be naruto after just meeting the sage of six paths. Now why would I compare him to MS Sasuke?

Dafuq?

-Chou Oodama FRS?
-3 FRS? (2 before)
-Ability to merge with Ma and Pa.
-Kurama support for Genjutsu.


Lol.

When did naruto fuse with ma and pa?

 

[Conspirator.]

War arc SM Naruto definitely wins, but Pain Arc SM Naruto loses.

 

[Ambivalence]

When did naruto fuse with ma and pa?

He hasn't, but he easily can now that he's on friendly terms with Kurama who won't reject the fusion,

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[Null Man]

Naruto would win mid diff, maybe high diff. Amaterasu simply gets intercepted by clones, smoke bombs or avoided altogether with Shima's dust cloud and Chou Oodama Rasenshuriken destroys any Susano'o MS Sasuke can use.

War arc SM Naruto > Healthy MS Sasuke > Pain arc SM Naruto = Danzo fight MS Sasuke

 

[KidGamer65]

The strongest SM that exists in the manga would be naruto after just meeting the sage of six paths. Now why would I compare him to MS Sasuke?



When did naruto fuse with ma and pa?

Six Paths Sage Mode=/=Sage Mode obviously. Stop making excuses. The best SM Naruto is War Arc SM Naruto. Anything after that has Rikudo's Chakra involved so you obviously exclude it.

Never said he did. I said he has the ability to.

 

[Goju Ryu]

Throwing Susanoo far away doesn't really do much in damaging it does it.

Actually, Tsunade was able to destroy Madara's Susanoo using that level of punchs.

And when Raikage trowed Sasuke's Susanoo away with a punch Sasuke felt a lot of pain.

Also, I'm not sure if Rasenshuriken is strong enough to break the susanoo, I believe it's not, but it's a possibility too.