SM Naruto vs KCM Naruto

[lanakui8]

Location: Madara vs gokage
Knowledge: full
Distance 200 meters
Mindset: going for the kill
Stipulations:
- SM Naruto starts with ma and pa on his shoulders
- SM Naruto gets equal chakra reserves as KCM Naruto
- boss summons are restricted

who wins?

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

SM Naruto High diff.

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

Rasenshuriken can be canceled with chou oodama rasengan or maybe even overpowered
Shunshin blitz isnt likely to do any significant damage since SM enhances the body unlike kisame's

Ultimately SM naruto should win via the sages' genjutsu

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Rasenshuriken can be canceled with chou oodama rasengan or maybe even overpowered
Shunshin blitz isnt likely to do any significant damage since SM enhances the body unlike kisame's

Ultimately SM naruto should win via the sages' genjutsu

Depends on if this KCM Naruto is friends with Kurama or not.

 

[Unorthodox]

KMC stomps way to fast more clones mini rasenshuriken's chakra arms just way to much for sm

 

[Seventh Sama]

kcm naruto blitz sm naruto's head off .-.

 

[VongolaX]

Kcm naruto no easily....

That's when he reached the stage of Asuhra's chakra/yang

His moves are a lot stronger and faster, he'll be able to make sm clones and kcm clones to beat just sm naruto.

 

[lucario14]

You don't need sm sensory capabilities when you have speed feats that can dodge A's attack. Kcm naruto can make jutsu's real quick and has chakra arms I really don't see sm naruto challenging kcm naruto even with ma + pa.

 

[Dave Stevenson]

kcm naruto stomps

 

[TheTailedSage]

-Speed is an issue for SM naruto

-Mass of KCM clone is an issume for SM naruto

-RS prep for SM naruto is much longer than KCM Naruto and i highly doubt it would hit KCM naruto due to sage sensing and Speed

-KCM can use RS in abundance and can utilize the chakra around his body if need be

-Frog song shouldnt be hard to break out of due to perfect chakra control on KCM's part. Kurama and SM is a secure counter to it

-Boss toads are wiped out Via speed and SM strength. want to throw in a TB rasengan then be my guest

Regardless of equal chakra, Not much naruto can do to a superior version...

 

[Conspirator.]

KCM naruto blitzes SM naruto and wins with zero difficulty.

 

[Tarinth]

You do realize KCM Naruto can make clones that can go into SM right?
KCM Naruto low-mid diff.

 

[RaditzScouter]

SM= Overwhelming Strength + Super Speed
KCM= Hyper Speed + Super Strength

SM is stronger than KCM. But KCM is much faster than
SM.

1. KCM can maintain the form for an entire day.
While SM can only maintain the form for 5 minutes.

2. KCM can summon more KCM shadow clones than
SM shadow clones. Chakra Arms are much faster than
Frog Kata. SM time limit is really is gonna make KCM superior.

3. KCM can easily dodge SM Frog Kata attacks with pure
Speed. Fukasaka and Shima won't get to perform the Frog
Song because they need time to gayer the Chakra for it. KCM
will speed Rasengan blitz them before the Toads get half way
through it. It will be hard to hit SM as well because SM
has better battle sensing, while KCM had better negative
Emotion sensing.

But overall:

KCM VS SM + Pa & Ma= KCM High diff
KCM VS SM= KCM Mid diff

 

[RaditzScouter]

Tier 1:

Kaguya
Prime Hagoromo u
Six Paths Mode Naruto
Rinnengan Saskue
Asura
Indra
Old Hagoromo
Full Power Rinnengan Juudara (tree)
Half Power Rinnengan Juudara (tree)
8 Gates Might Guy
Base Six Paths Naruto
Half Power Rinnengan Juudara

Tier 2:

Complete Juubi
Naruto / Saskue Susanoo Fusion
Rinnengan MS Juubito (controlled)
Rinnengan MS Juubito (mindless)
V2 Juubi (buffed)
V2 Juubi
V1 Juubi

Tier 3:

Half Power Rinnengan SM Madara
All 9 Biju Beast ~
BSM Naruto
Kyuubi (100%)
Edo SM Hashirama
Edo Full Power Rinnengan Madara
BM Naruto
Rinnengan MS Obito VS 6 Tailed Beasts

Tier 3:

Edo Hashirama
Rinnengan MS Obito + V2 Jinchuriki
SM Blind Madara
8 Tails Killer B
Rinnengan MS Obito + 6 Paths Jinchuriki
Edo KCM Minato
Prime Full Power Rinnengan Nagato
KCM Naruto / SM Naruto
6 Paths Of Pain
EMS Saskue
Edo EMS Madara
Edo MS Itachi
DSM Kabuchimaru
Edo Third Raikage (hell stab)
Edo Tobirama

Tier 4:

A (full power)
Byakugou Sakura
Byakugou Tsunade
Deva Path
SM Jirayai
Edo Minato
MS Obito
Oonoki
KCM War Clones~
Edo Muu
Edo Second Mizukage
Edo Third Raikage

Tier 5:

Danzou
Edo Hiruzen
A
Tsunade
Orochimaru (healthy)
Jirayai
Mei
Earth Grudge Kakazu
Kisame (samehada)
Killer B
Kakashi (war arc)
Might Guy
Gaara
Edo Madara

Tier 6:

Edo Fourth Kazekage
Edo Kakazu
Edo Deidara
Hidan
Edo Sasori
Mifune
Konan
Saskue
Jugo
Suigetsu

Tier 7:

Neji
Rock Lee
Naruto
Sai
Sakura
Shikamaru
Kiba
Hinata
Shino
Choji
Ino
Black Zetsu
Zetsu

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Naruto said he senses danger faster then KCM. KCM reaction was able to react to V2 Raikage.

So SM should be able to react to KCM strikes.

With that said, it depends if KCM has Kurama support and if he can see natural energy. If both of the conditions is applied then Ill give it to KCM. If Not, SM.

While SM can only maintain the form for 5 minutes.

Ma and Pa has gives him unlimited senjutsu chakra via shoulder method. So SM would be doing the outlasting here

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

SM genjutsu is a non-factor here . not only does it require long prep time , but it can also be countered by clones , which are immune to almost all genjutsus .

 

[Brother Numpsay]

SM genjutsu is a non-factor here . not only does it require long prep time , but it can also be countered by clones , which are immune to almost all genjutsus .

Immune? Proof?

 

[TRE MERCER]

KM Naruto should take this ma and pa genjutsu is overrated.

Tier 1:

Kaguya
Prime Hagoromo u
Six Paths Mode Naruto
Rinnengan Saskue
Asura
Indra
Old Hagoromo
Full Power Rinnengan Juudara (tree)
Half Power Rinnengan Juudara (tree)
8 Gates Might Guy
Base Six Paths Naruto
Half Power Rinnengan Juudara

Tier 2:

Complete Juubi
Naruto / Saskue Susanoo Fusion
Rinnengan MS Juubito (controlled)
Rinnengan MS Juubito (mindless)
V2 Juubi (buffed)
V2 Juubi
V1 Juubi

Tier 3:

Half Power Rinnengan SM Madara
All 9 Biju Beast ~
BSM Naruto
Kyuubi (100%)
Edo SM Hashirama
Edo Full Power Rinnengan Madara
BM Naruto
Rinnengan MS Obito VS 6 Tailed Beasts

Tier 3:

Edo Hashirama
Rinnengan MS Obito + V2 Jinchuriki
SM Blind Madara
8 Tails Killer B
Rinnengan MS Obito + 6 Paths Jinchuriki
Edo KCM Minato
Prime Full Power Rinnengan Nagato
KCM Naruto / SM Naruto
6 Paths Of Pain
EMS Saskue
Edo EMS Madara
Edo MS Itachi
DSM Kabuchimaru
Edo Third Raikage (hell stab)
Edo Tobirama

Tier 4:

A (full power)
Byakugou Sakura
Byakugou Tsunade
Deva Path
SM Jirayai
Edo Minato
MS Obito
Oonoki
KCM War Clones~
Edo Muu
Edo Second Mizukage
Edo Third Raikage

Tier 5:

Danzou
Edo Hiruzen
A
Tsunade
Orochimaru (healthy)
Jirayai
Mei
Earth Grudge Kakazu
Kisame (samehada)
Killer B
Kakashi (war arc)
Might Guy
Gaara
Edo Madara

Tier 6:

Edo Fourth Kazekage
Edo Kakazu
Edo Deidara
Hidan
Edo Sasori
Mifune
Konan
Saskue
Jugo
Suigetsu

Tier 7:

Neji
Rock Lee
Naruto
Sai
Sakura
Shikamaru
Kiba
Hinata
Shino
Choji
Ino
Black Zetsu
Zetsu

Worst tier list ever BM Naruto and EMS Sasuke above Juubito?

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

Immune? Proof?

kakashi's clone was not affected by itachi's genjutsu , so I would assume that applies to sound genjutsu too.

and

Ma and Pa has gives him unlimited senjutsu chakra via shoulder method. So SM would be doing the outlasting here

the frogs can only help him gather natural energy , naruto would still have to use senjutsu chakra at the expense of his own chakra , while KCM naruto has an extra chakra source from kurama other than his own

 

[Blackdeath667]

Tier 1:

Kaguya
Prime Hagoromo u
Six Paths Mode Naruto
Rinnengan Saskue
Asura
Indra
Old Hagoromo
Full Power Rinnengan Juudara (tree)
Half Power Rinnengan Juudara (tree)
8 Gates Might Guy
Base Six Paths Naruto
Half Power Rinnengan Juudara

Tier 2:

Complete Juubi
Naruto / Saskue Susanoo Fusion
Rinnengan MS Juubito (controlled)
Rinnengan MS Juubito (mindless)
V2 Juubi (buffed)
V2 Juubi
V1 Juubi

Tier 3:

Half Power Rinnengan SM Madara
All 9 Biju Beast ~
BSM Naruto
Kyuubi (100%)
Edo SM Hashirama
Edo Full Power Rinnengan Madara
BM Naruto
Rinnengan MS Obito VS 6 Tailed Beasts

Tier 3:

Edo Hashirama
Rinnengan MS Obito + V2 Jinchuriki
SM Blind Madara
8 Tails Killer B
Rinnengan MS Obito + 6 Paths Jinchuriki
Edo KCM Minato
Prime Full Power Rinnengan Nagato
KCM Naruto / SM Naruto
6 Paths Of Pain
EMS Saskue
Edo EMS Madara
Edo MS Itachi
DSM Kabuchimaru
Edo Third Raikage (hell stab)
Edo Tobirama

Tier 4:

A (full power)
Byakugou Sakura
Byakugou Tsunade
Deva Path
SM Jirayai
Edo Minato
MS Obito
Oonoki
KCM War Clones~
Edo Muu
Edo Second Mizukage
Edo Third Raikage

Tier 5:

Danzou
Edo Hiruzen
A
Tsunade
Orochimaru (healthy)
Jirayai
Mei
Earth Grudge Kakazu
Kisame (samehada)
Killer B
Kakashi (war arc)
Might Guy
Gaara
Edo Madara

Tier 6:

Edo Fourth Kazekage
Edo Kakazu
Edo Deidara
Hidan
Edo Sasori
Mifune
Konan
Saskue
Jugo
Suigetsu

Tier 7:

Neji
Rock Lee
Naruto
Sai
Sakura
Shikamaru
Kiba
Hinata
Shino
Choji
Ino
Black Zetsu
Zetsu

this list is beyond terrible