SM Naruto vs Jirayia

[Chaotic Blades]

Description: Naruto starts off in SM while Jirayia does not. Neither party knows has any knowledge over the other
Location: Mount Myōboku
Intention: To kill
Restriction: Naruto cannot go into any Kyuubi form. No genjustu used

My thoughts: Naruto had more mastery and came up with more uses over SM than Jirayia, however Jirayia was more battle skilled than Naruto. I'm going with Naruto barely 6/10 times

 

[Gildarts Clive]

None.

How can they both have ma n pa ?

 

[Zaxelzero]

With Ma n Pa on J-man i would say he has the upperhnd

 

[Hei]

naruto surprass his teacher
j man lose his battle with pain but naruto beat all six pains

 

[Chaotic Blades]

None.

How can they both have ma n pa ?

Naruto doesn't need ma and pa to be in SM

 

[ImLazyGetOverIt]

Jiraya. His exp plus ma n pa would overtake Naruto

 

[blackbird31468]

jiraiya since he's got more battle skill and intelligence.

 

[silmarill]

naruto surprass his teacher
j man lose his battle with pain but naruto beat all six pains

he did beat them , but they werent trying to kill them
uber pain his power wasnt active for half of the fight
soul pain couldnt use his power cause naruto would die without soul, they needed him alive
1 pain turned too stone
naruto just had a lot of luck also and pain was restricted to use all his abilties

 

[Gildarts Clive]

I just did some research, annnnnnd, it turns out jiraiya didnt master SM

Jiraiya in an imperfect Sage Mode

(from wikia)

and naruto did master it

Naruto in True Sage Mode- the pigmentation around his eyes being the mark of a true Sage.

(same wikia)

so naruto FTW

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[JJR]

naruto surprass his teacher
j man lose his battle with pain but naruto beat all six pains

Naruto beat pain cuz he had the intel, help and they just wanted to capture him.

Naruto wouldn't last as long as J-Man with out any info about them.

 

[Migualon J.J.]

this isn´t about battle of Pain vs Naruto or Pain vs Jiraya, this is Naruto SM vs Jiraya, i go with Naruto since you said that no genjutsu

 

[-Vegeta-]

I'm sorry but letting Naruto start out in SM and Jiraiya not is ridiculous. Naruto doesn't need ma and pa while Jiraiya does and Naruto also has the mode perfected while Jiraiya does not. Jiraiya is at a huge disadvantage from the start.

 

[ShinobiEmperor]

naruto surprass his teacher
j man lose his battle with pain but naruto beat all six pains

You dont really think Naruto actually beat Pain fair and square right?

Fight wasnt fighting to kill but to capture, actually Naruto lost the momment Pain pinned him to the ground and had him captured, he even said that Naruto wasnt dead because he avoided vital points.

Then it was a Pain that had already fought Konoha plus using a jutsu that shorten his lifespan and consume a lot of chakra to nuke a village plus being unable to use Deva for the beginning of the fight where Naruto was capable of having the upper hand.

When Pain fought Jiraiya it was at full power and the intention to kill. Dont act as if Naruto was stronger than Pain because he wasnt.

 

[lanakau888]

Naruto will win 10/10 times if jiraiya doesn't start in hermit mode.

 

[Chaotic Blades]

I'm sorry but letting Naruto start out in SM and Jiraiya not is ridiculous. Naruto doesn't need ma and pa while Jiraiya does and Naruto also has the mode perfected while Jiraiya does not. Jiraiya is at a huge disadvantage from the start.

Naruto only can last 5 minutes in SM anyways. So who really is at a disadvantage?