SM Naruto and MS Sasuke vs 3rd Raikage and Mū

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Yes thats my argument. Its not my fault I always crush these weak ass arguments you post. The only advice I can offer you is to actually read the manga. Its okay, everyone doesn't remember everything all the time, so thats when you go, research, and check up on if what you think is accurate or not before you post it then call people bad debaters because you just made yourself look like retard.



There you go. After 3 SFRS WAR ARC SM NARUTO loses his SM.
Tssk Tssk did you forget Naruto was fighting for like 30+ chapters? That was a beaten tired and drained Naruto let be real here you didn't even counter my arguments... Make like your name i go invisible from this thread...
 

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Here is what I think:

Muu can lighten the 3rd Raikage to increase his speed to or beyond V2 Ay's speed who dodged Amaterasu and is too fast for the sharingan to keep up with. Even without being lightened, the Raikage has good enough speed and reactions to see Amaterasu coming and block it with his arm. With this enhancement of speed, Raikage can blitz Sasuke and use 1 fingered Nukite to tear through Sasuke's Susano'o and one shot him. Genjutsu is never landing and the partner method ensures this isn't happening.

Naruto will not be difficult to take down either since the Raikage is too durable for any of his attacks bar COOFRS, which is never landing on the Raikage whose immense speed when lightened by Mu allows him to dodge the attacks comfortably. Kage bunshins are blitzed, and summons make no difference. Raikage closes the distance and then kills Naruto with nukite or outlasts him until he goes out of Sage Mode
You completely ignored sound genjutsu...

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You completely ignored sound genjutsu...

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Like frog genjutsu is even a factor? Naruto has to hold his hands together and not fight or several minutes just to summon Ma and Pa, and on top of that it takes several minutes for the toad sages to prep the genjutsu, Naruto would get blitzed trying to summon the toad Sages by a lightened Raikage
 

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- Mū can lighten the Raiakge and make him even faster.

Since when did Muu get this ability?

Mu is a fantastic sensor, so MS techniques shouldn't catch him off guard.

Sensing only does you good when you have decent react time he does not he was not even able to dodge kmc naruto jumping off of sand let alone a susanoo fired from a hawk or amaterasu.


Here is what I think

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Muu can lighten the 3rd Raikage to increase his speed to or beyond V2 Ay's speed

When Muu shows this ability then we can use it in VS section untill then go to the fanfic with this nonsense also its pure fabrication to think who would even be Ei's speed level with the boost onoki is just slightly faster with this tech and Gaara sand didnt seem to be much faster either.

Even without being lightened, the Raikage has good enough speed and reactions to see Amaterasu coming and block it with his arm.

@Bold looks like Kidgamer,evani,Kifflom, have started a baseless trend concerning the 3rd raikage for one he does not even have the reaction time to put a limb up against a tech that can happen in a in the midst of battle with no sensory skills whatsoever and lawd strike me down now if you post that scan of him dodging a guided frs to try in support your claim of him reacting to amaterasu. In this is to the put the arm up thing danzo try and it failed horribly same with the 3rd

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Genjutsu is never landing and the partner method ensures this isn't happening.

Genjutsu is landing especially with his linear ass fighting style and do not bring up the Ei and Madara incident because he was fighting 5 standing susanoo's you think he's going to be even paying attention to the user of the jutsu NO. Yes because muu trying to free him from genjutsu is happening 3 boss toad multiply clones with great sensory skills rocks mu the moment he shows a glimps of chakra. Nukite has nothing on V4 susanoo periode.

Naruto will not be difficult to take down either since the Raikage is too durable for any of his attacks bar COOFRS, which is never landing on the Raikage whose immense speed when lightened by Mu

Again since when can muu do this ability. Naruto throwing rasenshurikens the size of boss toads and then expanding them catches the raikage or he 3rd attacks it GG or vice versa the clones turns to it self and to close to dogde a giant rasenshuriken.

allows him to dodge the attacks comfortably. Kage bunshins are blitzed, and summons make no difference. Raikage closes the distance and then kills Naruto with nukite or outlasts him until he goes out of Sage Mode

Gamabunta's Oil and Sasuke's enton Combo turns raikage into dust.

Like frog genjutsu is even a factor? Naruto has to hold his hands together and not fight or several minutes just to summon Ma and Pa, and on top of that it takes several minutes for the toad sages to prep the genjutsu, Naruto would get blitzed trying to summon the toad Sages by a lightened Raikage

Naruto flies safely on Sasuke's hawk while Bunta & Sasuke put there combo to work
 
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Please explain these terrible claims...

--Muu lightens the raikage and gives him the speed comparable to V2 Ay, meaning that naruto and sasuke have no way of keeping up or physically reacting to the raikage who evades and laughs at all of their attacks here,

--Raikage then blitzes sasuke and crushes sasukes susanoo with nukite, thus killing him on the process

--once sasuke is down, naruto gets raped by the duo, when the lightened raikage is too fast for naruto to physically evade meaning that he gets killed by 2-fingered nukite, and when muu can one shot alll the summons with jinton and kill all the clones, therefore preventing the duo from all hindrances
 
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This is the Moment when i knew you phucked up.
When Muu shows this ability then we can use it in VS section untill then go to the fanfic with this nonsense also its pure fabrication to think who would even be Ei's speed level with the boost onoki is just slightly faster with this tech and Gaara sand didnt seem to be much faster either.

Mu and Onoki lighten themselves with lightened-weight rock technique to a point where they can fly, confirmed in the and fourth databook

Earth Release: Light-Weight Rock Technique (土遁・軽重岩の術, Doton: Keijūgan no Jutsu)

Heading: To dance in the sky released from gravity's constraints!

Classification: Ninjutsu
Rank: B-Rank
Class: Offensive, Supplementary
Range: Short-Range
User(s): Ōnoki

The technique reduces the target's gravity. It's natural application is to enhance, naturally it's used to make the weight of the things one carries lighten, ones personal weight can also be reduced, making ones movements fast and agile. The atmosphere as well as the human body is made light, in-order to soar through the sky. On occasion, It is popular for a person to control the jutsu's flight in the sky with specific stances (heavy paraphrased, but you get it, many users control their flight with their stance), with practice one can freely fly about in the sky.

→ Touching the target in an instant their gravity is taken away. The technique user regulates how much (gravity) is snatched away.

↓ The sensation of soaring through the sky is extraordinarily pleasant. . . can't make out the rest due to unknown Katakana word.

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@Bold looks like Kidgamer,evani,Kifflom, have started a baseless trend concerning the 3rd raikage for one he does not even have the reaction time to put a limb up against a tech that can happen in a in the midst of battle with no sensory skills whatsoever and lawd strike me down now if you post that scan of him dodging a guided frs to try in support your claim of him reacting to amaterasu. In this is to the put the arm up thing danzo try and it failed horribly same with the 3rd

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The raikage sees sasuke's eye bleed and he has full intel so he puts his arm in front of his face to block the flames. Danzo did not try to block it with his arm you have no proof that he did, and why would he try to block it when he had izanagi active, dont make me repeat the exact same stuff that kidgamer, evani and kifflom have already said to prove you wrong. raikage not being able to move his arm in front of his fac is laughable especially since when the raikage is lightened he is fast enough to dodge amaterasu altogether and if by some miracle it hits him he tanks it and plows through susano'o with nukite and kills sasuke

Genjutsu is landing especially with his linear ass fighting style and do not bring up the Ei and Madara incident because he was fighting 5 standing susanoo's you think he's going to be even paying attention to the user of the jutsu NO. Yes because muu trying to free him from genjutsu is happening 3 boss toad multiply clones with great sensory skills rocks mu the moment he shows a glimps of chakra. Nukite has nothing on V4 susanoo periode.

The first half of this argument is destroyed by the fact that madara couldn't land a genjutsu on Ay until tsunade distracted him and madara had to physically pick up ay with his susano'o and force eye contact on him + sharingan can't even track V2 Ay so landing a genjutsu via eye contact on lightened raikage is laughable. Mu (who is on raikage's back) can instantly snap raikage out of genjutsu via partner method if by some miracle sasuke catches raikage in genjutsu. Nukite easily pierced through lightning armour and almost killed the raikage when FRS didn't scratch him and cut off all the Hachibi's tails with one strike when the juubi's laser failed to do so, you're gonna need to post some serious tanking feats for V4 Susano'o if you think it stands a chance against nukite

Again since when can muu do this ability. Naruto throwing rasenshurikens the size of boss toads and then expanding them catches the raikage or he 3rd attacks it GG or vice versa the clones turns to it self and to close to dogde a giant rasenshuriken.

COOFRS is never ever landing a hit against the lightened raikage who can dodge it with ease and tanks it even if he gets caught in the aoe blast radius he tanks it (since getting caught in the aoe is much less serious than taking a direct hit.) No way....that was a clone disguised as a rasenshuriken, not a rasenshuriken disguised as a clone...

Gamabunta's Oil and Sasuke's enton Combo turns raikage into dust.

as if gamabunta would be able to track the raikage much less land a hit on him with his oil

Naruto flies safely on Sasuke's hawk while Bunta & Sasuke put there combo to work

no nukite tears through susano'o and one shots sasuke then naruto's attacks are tanked and dodged until he goes out of SM then nukite ends him as well
 

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--Muu lightens the raikage and gives him the speed comparable to V2 Ay, meaning that naruto and sasuke have no way of keeping up or physically reacting to the raikage who evades and laughs at all of their attacks here,

--Raikage then blitzes sasuke and crushes sasukes susanoo with nukite, thus killing him on the process

--once sasuke is down, naruto gets raped by the duo, when the lightened raikage is too fast for naruto to physically evade meaning that he gets killed by 2-fingered nukite, and when muu can one shot alll the summons with jinton and kill all the clones, therefore preventing the duo from all hindrances
Not happening when Sasuke can use this version of Susanoo.( ). Wait let me guess your next argument they run around until Sasuke runs out of chakra huh? Then down comes Kirin to kill the duo.( ). Or they could do the famous oil Amaterasu combination which roast both of them.( ). Ma and Pa provides dust screen for the duo.( ). Naruto then disguise Sasuke as a rock via Combo-trans once that happens Frog sound should be prepped and ready by then to finish to duo there combo's are endless...
 

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Not happening when Sasuke can use this version of Susanoo.( ).Wait let me guess your next argument they run around until Sasuke runs out of chakra huh?
This susanoo is eradicated by nukite, its not doing shit here, so there is no need for the raikage to run around when he can kill sasuke whenever he wants,
Then down comes Kirin to kill the duo.( ).
Kirin is tanked by the raikage, and evaded by muu, when sasuke wont have a clue where he is
or the lightened raikage could just blitz sasuke during its downward arm movement and kill him on the process,
so the only thing its doing is just killing naruto on the process, making this a rape
Or they could do the famous oil Amaterasu combination which roast both of them.( ).
Raikage and Muu can just evade it,
not to mention that its prep time would just allow Muu to fire off a jinton, which goes through the jutsu and turns the duo to dust
Ma and Pa provides dust screen for the duo.( ).
dust screen is just blocking sasukes LoS, its not doing shit to a sensor such as Muu,
and with sasukes LoS blocked, means that he cant attack during that interval, and narutos attacks are not landing on either of the kages, nor are they cutting it against the third raikage even if they land on him

Naruto then disguise Sasuke as a rock via Combo-trans once that happens Frog sound should be prepped and ready by then to finish to duo there combo's are endless..
Frog Call is evaded by the duo, and as for Frog Song, its just making it worse for Sasuke,
not to mention that prepping the jutsu would mean that sasuke has to stand up against both of the kages, which he obviously cant, meaning that he gets raped by nukite, followed by naruto getting raped by both of the kages, during the time hes attempting to prep it,
especially when it just allows muu to fire off a large scale jinton, or raikage to blitz him off and eradicate him,

either way, muu and third raikage win this
 

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This susanoo is eradicated by nukite, its not doing shit here, so there is no need for the raikage to run around when he can kill sasuke whenever he wants,

Kirin is tanked by the raikage, and evaded by muu, when sasuke wont have a clue where he is
or the lightened raikage could just blitz sasuke during its downward arm movement and kill him on the process,
so the only thing its doing is just killing naruto on the process, making this a rape

Not a chance Nukite greatest feat is piecing the 3rd Raikage which isn't that seeing as his body is only as tough as a Iron steel combination.( ). Not to mention without his armor his flesh was cut but Temari low level fuuton jutsu.( ).While this form of Susanoo tanked Temari attacks plus alot more.( ).Which means that Susanoo durability is above the 3rd before he puts on his armor... Now Susanoo still has to more stages of armor left.( )-( ). Nukite is easily tanked... Raikage could barely tank a Rasenshuriken and now he's tanking some that turned this.( ) into dust the wank is unreal... Not when he's in the air via flight.( ) How is Mu dodging just saying he's dodging isn't good enough buddy...
Raikage and Muu can just evade it,
not to mention that its prep time would just allow Muu to fire off a jinton, which goes through the jutsu and turns the duo to dust

dust screen is just blocking sasukes LoS, its not doing shit to a sensor such as Muu,
and with sasukes LoS blocked, means that he cant attack during that interval, and narutos attacks are not landing on either of the kages, nor are they cutting it against the third raikage even if they land on him
How are they going to dodge something on this scale.( ). Not to mention once the Amaterasu is out there Sasuke stays next to therefore they can't even get near him or there going to get caught in jumping Enton.( ). Once Mu appears this happens.( ). He won't see this coming sense they'll be disguised as rocks and sensing them isn't happening sense they'll be SM clones and blend in with all the Natural energy around them... Actually it is sense the dust screen and everything inside besides Sasuke will be nature so how in the world would he possible know which one is Naruto and that the clones are in disguised as rocks? The dust screen is for sound genjutsu prep and Sasuke to take flight without any problems...


Frog Call is evaded by the duo, and as for Frog Song, its just making it worse for Sasuke,
not to mention that prepping the jutsu would mean that sasuke has to stand up against both of the kages, which he obviously cant, meaning that he gets raped by nukite, followed by naruto getting raped by both of the kages, during the time hes attempting to prep it,
especially when it just allows muu to fire off a large scale jinton, or raikage to blitz him off and eradicate him,

either way, muu and third raikage win this
Not when he's behide the dust cloud? How are the duo going to evade sound? Naruto isn't even getting located when he can make this many clones.( ). The moment Mu tries Jinton Amaterasu ends him...​
 

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Mu and Onoki lighten themselves with lightened-weight rock technique to a point where they can fly, confirmed in the and fourth databook

im pretty sure he used the same tech but in a different way who's to say he can lightened others up anyways but im moving past that argument because its pure speculation on how fast he could move anyways.




The raikage sees sasuke's eye bleed and he has full intel so he puts his arm in front of his face to block the flames. Danzo did not try to block it with his arm you have no proof that he did, and why would he try to block it when he had izanagi active, dont make me repeat the exact same stuff that kidgamer, evani and kifflom have already said to prove you wrong.

The raikage trying to base anything on sasuke's eye bleeding equals his end amaterasu happens in a also looking at Sasuke's eye trying to read when he's going to use amaterasu leaves him wide open for genjutsu. Also to add on to the arm thing is much larger than his arm[/URL] not only will it touch the rest of his body when he move the flames how does the 3rd know where to put his hand to block amaterasu his face or torso will be scorched as if he could even put up an arm anyways. You try to call my bluff on the arm thing why else would danzo put his arm up picture him without amaterasu over majority of his body that is a defense stance or a way to defend against something im so weak at the he had izanagi so he would not need to block thats dumb especially when he would do anything to keep as much izanagi's as he could to fight obito who he thought he was going up against next he also had izanagi using that oh he had izanagi so no need to block excuse will get you know where but owned like Kidgamer & Kifflom dumbasses.

raikage not being able to move his arm in front of his fac is laughable especially since when the raikage is lightened he is fast enough to dodge amaterasu altogether and if by some miracle it hits him he tanks it and plows through susano'o with nukite and kills sasuke

@Bold im sick lol we dont even know if muu can use this abilities on his partners or how fast he will move yet we just jump to this assumption. He isnt tanking anything once he's hit he then becomes anxious for the kill and gets caught up in Genjutsu Nukite is not bypassing especially when it was implyed to have saved Itachi against kirin an attack with much more power than nukite. But since your a follow i know your going to use this Logic Danzo tore v3 susanoo back open 3rd tanked FRS FRS > Danzo's attack (Without any logical reasons behind it) but all i can say is this it only open up the susanoo from the back where it has been said to be the weak point of susanoo for one also wasit the 3rd skin breached by Temari and a bunch of fodders fuuton The same attack danzo used to open up Sasuke's susanoo would slice open the 3rds armor and cause damage to his real body if we're going by that V4 susanoo easily tanks nukite or give sasuke enough time to snatch the raikage up and smash him like a bug.

The first half of this argument is destroyed by the fact that madara couldn't land a genjutsu on Ay until tsunade distracted him and madara had to physically pick up ay with his susano'o and force eye contact on him + sharingan can't even track V2 Ay so landing a genjutsu via eye contact on lightened raikage is laughable.

Lawd i laugh when people use that arguement Ei was fighting standing susanoo aswell a worried about his friends can you give me one reason why he would be looking at the Madara clones inside the susanoo? answer he would not hell id be surprise if he even noticed them also you said madara could not land a genjutsu on them Madara has not try'ed his fighting style is not genjutsu based at all unless he wants to control some I.E kurama or wants to put someone down quick in this case he wanted to test the kages and have some fun. Sasuke tracked Ei just fine whipping Enton on right before A attack means he knew he was going to attack him and once again who says he's V2 ei speeds that wishful thinking will get you no where in debates.

Mu (who is on raikage's back) can instantly snap raikage out of genjutsu via partner method if by some miracle sasuke catches raikage in genjutsu. Nukite easily pierced through lightning armour and almost killed the raikage when FRS didn't scratch him and cut off all the Hachibi's tails with one strike when the juubi's laser failed to do so, you're gonna need to post some serious tanking feats for V4 Susano'o if you think it stands a chance against nukite

@Bold does not work like that even experience duo's such as Killerbee & Gyuki took some time to snap out of it. Once genjutsu hits amaterasu roast the both of them. Tired of people saying FRS didnt sratch him there was clearly if he was alive that would have been blood and skin. Using Gyuki tails to trying to convince me how deadly nukite is a awful when Almost all of sharp objects that went against those tentacles bisected them like it was nothing. Honestly if your comparing the juubi laser to nukite i really need not to take you serious every again also V4 susanoo protected the user from Kirin witch reduced a mountain to ruble or ash witch is much more impressive then an exploding Rasenshuriken .

COOFRS is never ever landing a hit against the lightened raikage who can dodge it with ease and tanks it even if he gets caught in the aoe blast radius he tanks it (since getting caught in the aoe is much less serious than taking a direct hit.) No way....that was a clone disguised as a rasenshuriken, not a rasenshuriken disguised as a clone...

Raikage will have to attack sooner or later since they're only long range attack his jinton witch is never happening also using a clone on sasuke's hawk to suicide himself with COFRS is an easy way to get the 3rd tanking rasenshuriken is not the problem as i already explained it is not know for its destructive feats but more so so once it detonates its over because these microscopic needles and yes the that small if they can tear every single cell apart they easily breaches his skin ending him just like Kakuzu is body was not harm that bad physically but eternally he was ruined same applies for the raikage also i said vice versa on the FRS clone thing.

as if gamabunta would be able to track the raikage much less land a hit on him with his oil

Gamabunta does not need to land a hit on anyone with his oil also picture all that but enton that really is the game ender here and if that does not work Kirin will do the job.



no nukite tears through susano'o and one shots sasuke then naruto's attacks are tanked and dodged until he goes out of SM then nukite ends him as well

Version 4 susanoo easily tanks nukite or give sasuke enough breathing space to smash the raikage afterwards. He cannot catch them when they're on a hawk or jumping around on big toads so no and he can tank rasenshuriken all day long the effects of it is whats puts him done for good.

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Naruto and Sasuke win mid diff, high diff at worst.
 

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Not a chance Nukite greatest feat is piecing the 3rd Raikage
Which is more than sufficient enough to claim that it eradicates sasukes V3 susanoo and kills him
which isn't that seeing as his body is only as tough as a Iron steel combination.( ). Not to mention without his armor his flesh was cut but Temari low level fuuton jutsu.( ).While this form of Susanoo tanked Temari attacks plus alot more.( ).Which means that Susanoo durability is above the 3rd before he puts on his armor...[/B] Now Susanoo still has to more stages of armor left.( )-( ).
There are alot of flaws in this part of ur post,
first of all, the raikage tanked FRS from KCM naruto to a point where naruto stated that it had no efffect on him, this jutsu that not only coutners his RNY hard, due to its elemental advantage but also has the cellular damage on top of its large destructive power,

secondly, FRS has comparable power to Hirudora, the same jutsu that eradicated madaras V3 susanoo, and pushed him back to an extent that his control over his mokuryu was completely diminished, meaning that sasukes susanoo is crushed by it as well
the same V3 susanoo that had its hole blew open from a mere fuuton from danzo, something tahts no where near the level of FRS, let alone nukite,

nukite on the other hand went through the raikages shroud and body, and took him out compeltely, meaning that its on a whole other level to a jutsu such as FRS, regardless of FRS having an elemental advantage,
not to mention that nukite has all of its power focused on one point, meaning that it eradicates all of sasukes susanoo like butter and crushes him on the process as well,

Nukite is easily tanked...
no susanoo bar PS is helping sasuke survive nukite, let alone ''easily tank'',,
Raikage could barely tank a Rasenshuriken and now he's tanking some that turned this.( ) into dust the wank is unreal...
Nope, raikage tanked FRS, despite the jutsu having the elemental advantage over his RNY,
kirin is not that far off from FRS, meaning that it gets tanked
Not when he's in the air via flight.( ) How is Mu dodging just saying he's dodging isn't good enough buddy...
Muu is dodgin it by flying behind sasuke or outside the jutsus AOE, whilst being undetected, meaning that he doesnt get hit
he is a long range fighter, and sasuke not being able to locate him means that he doesnt get hit,

How are they going to dodge something on this scale.( ).
Muus stays invisible and flies outside of its AOE,
Third Raikage oon the other hand can easily evade it thanks to his lightened speed, or through his fast shunshin he blitzes the toad and eradicaates it with nukite, before they evenn cast this jutsu

Not to mention once the Amaterasu is out there Sasuke stays next to therefore they can't even get near him or there going to get caught in jumping Enton.( )
Muu can certainly get near him and slash his throat with his invisiblity, especially if hes without his susanoo,
and if they really cast this jutsu, then it requires just as much prep time as a jinton,
the only diifference would be that jinton goes through their jutsu and turns them to dust,
. Once Mu appears this happens.( ). He won't see this coming sense they'll be disguised as rocks and sensing them isn't happening sense they'll be SM clones and blend in with all the Natural energy around them...
Naruto would need to prep that many clones, and in that time, muu would sense them just fine,
not to mention that using this would mean that sasuke is stalling the kages which he obviously cant, when lightened raikage rapes him within seconds,
and why exactly does muu need to appear when he can attack whilst invisble?
and why exactly does muu need to come close? when hes more of a long range fighter,

Actually it is sense the dust screen and everything inside besides Sasuke will be nature so how in the world would he possible know which one is Naruto and that the clones are in disguised as rocks?
Umm what?,,
first of all dust screen is moot when its based on blocking a users LoS,
muu is a sensor so he isnt getting fazed by it even the slightest,
whilst Sasuke is affected when the blocked LoS completely stops him from using jutsus such as amaterasu or even using his sharingan precog,
meaning that muu directs the raikage to sasukes whereabouts and he dies,
The dust screen is for sound genjutsu prep and Sasuke to take flight without any problems...
again, frog call is not doing much, when the jutsus range is bare minimal, meaning that the raikage evades it with his speed, and muu evades it with his flight,, and the jutsus time frame isnt that long either, meaning that its just a waste of effort,
Not when he's behide the dust cloud? How are the duo going to evade sound?
they are evading the jutsus short AOE, which tthey certainly can
Naruto isn't even getting located when he can make this many clones.( ). The moment Mu tries Jinton Amaterasu ends him...
you didnt read did u Lol,
muu would only fire jinton once the raikage is done wiith sasuke which isnt taking long at all,
with amaterasu out of the equation, as well as the fact that naruto would be outnumbered and muu would be safe from quick attacks means that he flies up and jintons the clones
 
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