SM Madara vs BM Naruto and EMS Sasuke

[Draphsin]

his body, his chakra.+ whatever u listed

I already proved multiple times how this isn't the case, if you're just going to ignore me & repeat the same nonsense then I accept your concession.

obito's entire right half is hashi's dna dude. why else do you think that his vision didn't go out like kakashi's did.

Doesn't change the fact that susanoo still gets chakra complaints, even the lesser versions, kakashi who isn't even a uchiha doesn't complain about kamui until at least a few uses of it, & obito has never complained about it's use despite constantly using it.

and why else do u think he can spam ms techs like no other? hashi dna.

Doesn't change the fact that he's never given a single complaint regarding it's use, & kakashi doesn't complain as much as a uchiha complains.

who's to say he even has it

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The power of the Mangekyō Sharingan is able to activate incredible Ninjutsu. Enormous Chakra clad technique materialize, towering over the mountains (exceeding the height of the mountains), taking authority over battlefield to its hands (changing the flow of battle). Appearance of the complete technique differs in accordance to the user. Moreover for users that are good at Ninjutsu Susanoo themselves,becomes possible to enter/trigger the invocation of the complete body (kanseitai). Furthermore Susanoo in next form can wear special armor which can shape/turn on wings that allow it to fly. - 4th DB

Both imply that anyone with the power of the mangekyou sharingan activated in both eyes has access to the third power susanoo. Since kakashi can use it then that means the eyes [obito's eyes] have that same ability, so obito has that same ability.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

I already proved multiple times how this isn't the case, if you're just going to ignore me & repeat the same nonsense then I accept your concession.



Doesn't change the fact that susanoo still gets chakra complaints, even the lesser versions, kakashi who isn't even a uchiha doesn't complain about kamui until at least a few uses of it, & obito has never complained about it's use despite constantly using it.



Doesn't change the fact that he's never given a single complaint regarding it's use, & kakashi doesn't complain as much as a uchiha complains.

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Both imply that anyone with the power of the mangekyou sharingan activated in both eyes has access to the third power susanoo. Since kakashi can use it then that means the eyes [obito's eyes] have that same ability, so obito has that same ability.

thank you for accepting it.

somewhat, madara never complained.

obito has a high pain tolerance

they have linked eyes.

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obito awakened the right eye, kakashi awakened the left

 

[Draphsin]

thank you for accepting it.

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, you're agreeing with me by posting the same thing & ignoring my points.

somewhat, madara never complained.

Madara was never shown to use susanoo with MS, so we have no idea if he complained or not. EMS is a different story.

obito has a high pain tolerance

Doesn't negate any of the damage done to him, if you get stabbed in the heart it doesn't matter if you can tolerate the pain better than me or not, you're still going to die.

they have linked eyes.

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That changes nothing, the chakra inside the eye comes from obito, it's obito's chakra. They are obito's eyes & so the jutsus associated with it are obito's.

 

[KidGamer65]

limbo can perform all of madara's techs.

and i dont see why everyone is ignoring that hashi's shinssuusenju shitted on a superior PS Kurama.

so why doesn't madara do the same? because people hate

Uh, Sage Kurama Avatar Naruto>>Full Kurama. Senjutsu enhanced PS>Madara's PS. Cloaked Sasuke using a senjutsu PS>>>Madara's PS. Naruto and Sasuke PS Kurama>>>Madara's PS Kurama.

Madara's PS took on 11 Bijuudamas but got destroyed by SS. If it coats Mokujin and Wood dragon, it can protect them and Wood dragon basically put Naruto with the Kurama avatar down when he faced Edo Madara.

Except this isn't just Naruto, Sasuke is here as well. Naruto and Sasuke have the power to open Perfect Susanoo and blow Mokujin and Mokuryu away along with it, Mokujin doesn't have the power to breach Perfect Susanoo, so it can't put the Avatar nor does it have the defensive power to survive the blast. 11 Senjutsu Bijuu Dama Blades>>11 Bijuu Dama.

But then again Madara can't even use Perfect Susanoo without his other eye.

 

[Haizaki]

Except this isn't just Naruto, Sasuke is here as well. Naruto and Sasuke have the power to open Perfect Susanoo and blow Mokujin and Mokuryu away along with it, Mokujin doesn't have the power to breach Perfect Susanoo, so it can't put the Avatar nor does it have the defensive power to survive the blast. 11 Senjutsu Bijuu Dama Blades>>11 Bijuu Dama.

The thing is they'll get caught in the blast radius like how PS coated Kurama did when it fired the TBBs at SS and I don't think Sasuke's PS is durable enough to take such. Madara can use SS as well and can stand on top of it..Hashirama stood on SS's head and still didn't get hit despite SS being caught in TBB's Range.

But then again Madara can't even use Perfect Susanoo without his other eye.

Yeah true..I'm actually thinking he does in this case. If not, then he'll lose.

 

[Transcendence]

The thing is they'll get caught in the blast radius like how PS coated Kurama did when it fired the TBBs at SS and I don't think Sasuke's PS is durable enough to take such. Madara can use SS as well and can stand on top of it..Hashirama stood on SS's head and still didn't get hit despite SS being caught in TBB's Range.




Yeah true..I'm actually thinking he does in this case. If not, then he'll lose.

Since when can Madara use SS?

 

[Blunt]

Sasuke and Naruto take this comfortably with these conditions.

 

[Haizaki]

Since when can Madara use SS?

Ever since he acquired Hashirama's SM.

 

[Transcendence]

Ever since he acquired Hashirama's SM.

He has no feat of such. He could only use the other Mokuton because he saw it multiple times in his lifetime and saw the hand seals for them. He saw Shinsenjuu once. And never again. He can't use Shinsenjuu.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Didn't Madara already stomp these two? Lol

 

[Haizaki]

He has no feat of such. He could only use the other Mokuton because he saw it multiple times in his lifetime and saw the hand seals for them. He saw Shinsenjuu once. And never again. He can't use Shinsenjuu.

If you can prove to me the bolds, then I'll concede. You say he saw the hand seals for them but he somehow didn't see the hand seal for SS? Not enough proof if you ask me.

Also, what proof is there that suggest he saw Mokruyu as well when he only hinted at the Kyuubi incident?

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[KidGamer65]

The thing is they'll get caught in the blast radius like how PS coated Kurama did when it fired the TBBs at SS and I don't think Sasuke's PS is durable enough to take such. Madara can use SS as well and can stand on top of it..Hashirama stood on SS's head and still didn't get hit despite SS being caught in TBB's Range.

Except they weren't in the blast radius. Divide that down the middle and you have two explosions.

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Left side (Madara and Kyuubi)

Right side (Hashirama and SS, you can see the fragments of wood being blown everywhere by the explosion)

The things on the right side didn't receive any (relevant) damage from the left side, and vice versa. So PS Kurama comes out unscathed and PS Mokujin gets obliterated along with Madara. If he uses SS, the same thing happens since SS=PS Kurama<<<Sage KCC enhanced PS Kurama.

Either Madara uses PS Mokujin or he uses SS, there is no "also" or "together" or "at once". No evidence of any kind that allows him to coat Mokujin with PS, and control SS at the same time.

Hashirama was safe because the statue took most of the damage for him, if the statue gets hit with more than it can take, then he dies along with it regardless of him being on teh top.

 

[Rimitri Drascalov]

Since Madara has no feats and logic reasoning to be as fast as 4th Raikage to evade Amaterasu, and Sasuke's Amaterasu is tiers faster than Madara as feats show, MS Sasuke beats him comfortably. Let alone EMS Sasuke who not even Dual Rinnegan SM Madara can beat

EMS Sasuke solos low diff.

 

[Haizaki]

Ok they win this since Madara can't coat SS with his PS.