Failed arguement you say?? Then just how else would he have met Minato?? and be explained about the 9 tails?? .....don't ask questions before you think about why it happened...Kishi told the story EXACTLY how it came out...maybe instead of you trying to find an arguement, do a little research about how Plot no Jutsu applies to Naruto, and when you get a better understanding of it....then come at me...until then, B'gone knave...
I brought the Oro/Sasugay fight up because like Pain pinning down Naruto, it was a plot point because seriously....just because Itachi could beat Oro, doesn't mean that his brother could....