SM Jiraya's speed is on 4th Raikage's level

[Strict]

I think he comes near Minatos speed. His one kick against Ningendo was, just overwhelming.

 

[Blaze Release]

Your misconception with speed seems to be way off (ill snap you out of that illusion one of these days though) when you state base kakashi is equal to 7 gates gai or base minato's speed rivals bm naruto lol. Now this

 

[The Alchemist]

He is fast as hell in SM but I doubt it's on par with A's whose speed is only rivaled by Minato's FTG and NAruto in KM

 

[Transcendence]

No. It was just a nice speed feat. Still doesn't compare to Naruto, Minato or A.

 

[Bogard]

With the speed you're insinuating Jiraya has, he would be easily able to speed kick each and every one of them..
As lee said, even by having eyes etc, if your body can't KEEP up , then there's nothing you can do..

Obviously, you're saying the peins can't react to his speeD

Your words..
If one pein had 0 reaction, then by your logic , jiraya would be able to do the same thing to every pein, with the same constant 0 reaction..

But he didn't..because he couldn't..

As I said, it's more likely That considering Jiraya just entered his sm mode, Pein didn't EXPECT such speed.. and thus didn't react fast enough.. he was simply SUPRISED.. thus the "very nice.."

Even when you are surprised by a move, you can still do something to protect yourself. Juugo managed to protect himself against V1 Raikage eventhough he was surprised. But on this action, Human Path with Rinnengan activated, with Rinnengan share vision didn't even react to his speed. It's that, that i find particularly insane. Of course, after Pain was more prepared with his Rinnengan Share vision and with the number, it wasn't easy for Jiraya to replicate the same feat, but it doesn't change the fact that he accomplished something surpassing even V1 Raikage

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Borgard, J man didn't Speed Blitz Human Path.

Human Path Speed Blitz him

 

[Owarij]

Even when you are surprised by a move, you can still do something to protect yourself. Juugo managed to protect himself against V1 Raikage eventhough he was surprised. But on this action, Human Path with Rinnengan activated, with Rinnengan share vision didn't even react to his speed. It's that, that i find particularly insane. Of course, after Pain was more prepared with his Rinnengan Share vision and with the number, it wasn't easy for Jiraya to replicate the same feat, but it doesn't change the fact that he accomplished something surpassing even V1 Raikage

How is shared vision going to help you in a battle where you can't even track the person's movements?
Sharingan helps you in this situation since it has the movement prediction etc...

Sasuke was able to track 1 tailed naruto's movements when he got his 3 tomoe.. RINNEGAN doesn't have that feature...
Seeing a wider view of the battlefield isn't going to help if someone is moving at v2 raikage speed.. aka speed that not even the SHARINGAN can keep up with

 

[Bogard]

How is shared vision going to help you in a battle where you can't even track the person's movements?
Sharingan helps you in this situation since it has the movement prediction etc...

Sasuke was able to track 1 tailed naruto's movements when he got his 3 tomoe.. RINNEGAN doesn't have that feature...
Seeing a wider view of the battlefield isn't going to help if someone is moving at v2 raikage speed.. aka speed that not even the SHARINGAN can keep up with

Simple, Rinnengan share vision works like cameras so you see things from different angles. Even if from one angle, you don't see a thing, if from another angle another Path sees a thing, it's enough to react. So the time Jiraya takes to try an blitz one Path, he is already seen by another Path. Notice that Human Path for example managed to block Jiraya's punch at some point without even seeing him just because of that share vision

 

[Strict]

Common Bogard, the six paths of Pain are corpses, even Nagato, who lacks mobility was considered faster, the Paths don't have any speed feats and were in this scenario all looking at him from the same spot. Do you seriously want to tell me, that it needs the fourth Raikages maximum of speed, in order to kick Ningendo away if he jumps towards you?

You must be out of your mind xd.

 

[Bogard]

Common Bogard, the six paths of Pain are corpses, even Nagato, who lacks mobility was considered faster, the Paths don't have any speed feats and were in this scenario all looking at him from the same spot. Do you seriously want to tell me, that it needs the fourth Raikages maximum of speed, in order to kick Ningendo away if he jumps towards you?

You must be out of your mind xd.

I don't know where you got that info that Nagato was considered faster. It's his attacks which were considered faster and stronger, not himself. Pain were obviously faster than him, faster than a crippled guy who can't walk

 

[Owarij]

Simple, Rinnengan share vision works like cameras so you see things from different angles. Even if from one angle, you don't see a thing, if from another angle another Path sees a thing, it's enough to react. So the time Jiraya takes to try an blitz one Path, he is already seen by another Path. Notice that Human Path for example managed to block Jiraya's punch at some point without even seeing him just because of that share vision

A blitz doesn't just mean you got out the person's field of vision..
All rinnegan does, aka with the camera booths, is have full vision of the map or battlefield..

a person like bm naruto, will STILL be able to destroy the paths in seconds due to his speed...extra eyes dont help if your body cant keep up

from the scan you posted, there was 0 reaction in human path.. meaning you're insinuating that Jiraya is at a speed in which the path who, may have possibly seen the movement (not likely) still couldn't defend due to lackof reflexes etc..

if the above is true.. and the peins do not have the reflexes needed to combat jiraya's sm speed.then he would be able to continue with such speed attacks throughout the fight...

 

[Bogard]

A blitz doesn't just mean you got out the person's field of vision..
All rinnegan does, aka with the camera booths, is have full vision of the map or battlefield..

a person like bm naruto, will STILL be able to destroy the paths in seconds due to his speed...extra eyes dont help if your body cant keep up

from the scan you posted, there was 0 reaction in human path.. meaning you're insinuating that Jiraya is at a speed in which the path who, may have possibly seen the movement (not likely) still couldn't defend due to lackof reflexes etc..

if the above is true.. and the peins do not have the reflexes needed to combat jiraya's sm speed.then he would be able to continue with such speed attacks throughout the fight...

Ok i admit that your right concerning the fact that they couldn't react to his speed, but still the fact remain that they have difficulties to handle it. Like i've said, even Juugo managed to block Raikage's punch in V1, yet Human Path had no reaction. It's for that reason that i thought his speed could be around V2 Raikage's level. True that they could see his speed via the share vision, but they have difficulties to handle that speed. Jiraya throughout the fight has shown continuous impressive speed, not just that first one. On the second pic i posted for example, like i've said, he was able to reach Gakido with a Odama Rasengan already activated even before his sandal reached the floor, and he was at a great distance from Gakidou from the start

 

[Owarij]

^ah, but even when he used the rasengan against Preta path, the path still reacted enough to raise his hands and start absorbing the attack.. meaning, there is a clear difference in the first reaction and 2nd..As I said, simply .. Jiraya in sm is fast.. Pein/nagato, never saw Jiraya's sm mode before.. and in no way expected such a speed feat..... Clearly suprised, Just as Madara was suprised at lee's speed in recent chapters...Nagato was unable to react fast enough... But now that he had a understanding of what his speed is now like... none of the paths fell for it again.. Just as I assure you, lee isn't going to be ripping through Madara with the speed again

 

[Bogard]

^ah, but even when he used the rasengan against Preta path, the path still reacted enough to raise his hands and start absorbing the attack.. meaning, there is a clear difference in the first reaction and 2nd..As I said, simply .. Jiraya in sm is fast.. Pein/nagato, never saw Jiraya's sm mode before.. and in no way expected such a speed feat..... Clearly suprised, Just as Madara was suprised at lee's speed in recent chapters...Nagato was unable to react fast enough... But now that he had a understanding of what his speed is now like... none of the paths fell for it again.. Just as I assure you, lee isn't going to be ripping through Madara with the speed again

Lol wait and see when Lee will speedblitz Madara again :rofl: Ok you won this one, i admit my total defeat

 

[Strict]

Juugo just protected himself but surely couldn't dodge, what Ningendo could do? He's weak, he couldn't do anything but take the attack, just as Juugo did but protected his body with the shield of his arm. Being in v2, not even the Sharingan can follow his movements. Jiraiyas speed is according to the databook 4.5, and this is how his moves looked like in SM during the whole fight, too. You show us one move of Jiraiya hitting Ningendo, who don't have any speed feats and compare his speed to A.

I guess, Konohamaru has Minatos speed, as he surprisingly hit Naraka-Path with the Rasengan. It remembered me Minato, when he blitzed Obito with the same move.

 

[Munboy]

Doubtful, otherwise there wouldn't be such a big deal about how the Raikage rivals Minato.
Think of it another way, the Raikage - the third one - using his shroud is as fast as his son before he amplifies the shroud. Naruto, in Sage Mode, was able to keep up and even outmaneuver him.

So the question is, do you think Sage Mode Jiraiya is faster than Sage Mode Naruto? Bearing in mind the latter has superior control over Sage Mode and has Kurama's chakra to amplify the recovery rate of Sage Mode.

 

[toviasrepier]

Kishi trolling is faster.

 

[Dark Artist]

i agree with you
100%

4th raikage is so overrated

Jiraiya sama is underrated in this site ( madara and itachi dickriders site )

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Bogard... :|

 

[Bogard]

Bogard... :|

Yeah Princess, can i help you?