[VS] SM jiraiya vs SM minato vs SM naruto

[LoZelda101]

Battle tournament 1.

Taijutsu test: restrictons - all jutsus except taijutsu.


Battle tournament 2.

CQC test: restrictions - all jutsus except rasengan, shunshin and needle jizo related.


Battle tournament 3.

Survival test: restrictions - NONE
sc1: not in sage mode yet
sc2: in sage mode at the start

location/ft 100

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timeline - war arc naruto (no rikudou chakra)
edo minato (can't regenerate)

disclaimer: if naruto can't use FRS without shadowclones, then he can't use it in the first two tournaments.
disclaimer2: if jiraiya can't use SM without ma pa, then yes he can use them in tournament attached. (but no gen)

 

[SasukeSixPack]

Naruto wins the first one. His CQC abilities are better than the other two and Jiraiya's speed is irrelevant as is Minato's taijutsu.

Minato wrecks the second one because of FTG. SM user's can't react to Minato's reflexes in conjunction with instantneous movement.

Tournament 3 Sc1: Minato solo's base naruto and Base Jiraiya with FTGV2. As for SC2: Minato wins because he can even tag the toads and since they all have the same summons he can tag them two add that with his ability to use Kage bunshin and he wins every time

 

[LoZelda101]

Naruto wins the first one. His CQC abilities are better than the other two and Jiraiya's speed is irrelevant as is Minato's taijutsu.

Minato wrecks the second one because of FTG. SM user's can't react to Minato's reflexes in conjunction with instantneous movement.

Tournament 3 Sc1: Minato solo's base naruto and Base Jiraiya with FTGV2. As for SC2: Minato wins because he can even tag the toads and since they all have the same summons he can tag them two add that with his ability to use Kage bunshin and he wins every time

nice thank you, thou in battle tournament 2. that restricted FTG as well, my fault thou. by shunshin I meant body flicker speed which I know minato used here. enabled it with rasengan variants so he could use it together.

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[KidGamer65]

Battle tournament 1.

Taijutsu test: restrictons - all jutsus except taijutsu.

Jiraiya definitely isn't winning this one, it's between Minato and Naruto, and they have the same exact benefits except Minato's physical stats should be higher than Naruto's and he's much faster so he'll probably win more times than not.

Battle tournament 2.

CQC test: restrictions - all jutsus except rasengan, shunshin and needle jizo related.

Minato's rasengan>Naruto's Rasengan>Jiraiya's Rasengan. Needle Jizo is almost useless here since it doesn't have the feats to block Rasengan, and if Jiraiya uses it to block a physical strike the assailant can easily follow up with Rasengan, which again, can't be blocked by Needle Jizo. So I favor Minato for the same reasons above combined with the fact he has the strongest Ninjutsu here.

Battle tournament 3.

Survival test: restrictions - NONE
sc1: not in sage mode yet
sc2: in sage mode at the start

S1: Minato wins with ease. He'd kill Jiraiya long before he entered Sage Mode, Naruto might be able to enter if he spams clones to prevent Minato from getting to his real body, but SM Naruto can't even defeat Minato.

S2: Minato honestly wins. These guys can't even tag him nor can they react to Hiraishin V2, and they might even end up weakening each other allowing Minato to strike them down. Minato easily has the advantage in these formats of matches because he can move across the battlefield instantly as long as he has markings, meaning Jiraiya and Naruto are going to be clashing with each other more frequently than they clash with Minato.

 

[SasukeSixPack]

Jiraiya definitely isn't winning this one, it's between Minato and Naruto, and they have the same exact benefits except Minato's physical stats should be higher than Naruto's and he's much faster so he'll probably win more times than not.

Yes Minato's physical stats are higher than Naruto's base stats, not SM. Him being faster in terms of shunshin doesn't apply because this is strictly taijutsu and all other jutsus are restricted but that depends on if the OP would include it for both characters if you mean in terms of foot speed, he's still not beating Naruto based on feats. Naruto will always be the better Sage.

 

[LoZelda101]

Jiraiya definitely isn't winning this one, it's between Minato and Naruto, and they have the same exact benefits except Minato's physical stats should be higher than Naruto's and he's much faster so he'll probably win more times than not.


Minato's rasengan>Naruto's Rasengan>Jiraiya's Rasengan. Needle Jizo is almost useless here since it doesn't have the feats to block Rasengan, and if Jiraiya uses it to block a physical strike the assailant can easily follow up with Rasengan, which again, can't be blocked by Needle Jizo. So I favor Minato for the same reasons above combined with the fact he has the strongest Ninjutsu here.



S1: Minato wins with ease. He'd kill Jiraiya long before he entered Sage Mode, Naruto might be able to enter if he spams clones to prevent Minato from getting to his real body, but SM Naruto can't even defeat Minato.

S2: Minato honestly wins. These guys can't even tag him nor can they react to Hiraishin V2, and they might even end up weakening each other allowing Minato to strike them down. Minato easily has the advantage in these formats of matches because he can move across the battlefield instantly as long as he has markings, meaning Jiraiya and Naruto are going to be clashing with each other more frequently than they clash with Minato.

lol wow minato rekts so base stats do stack with sagemode. so is there any way SM naruto could defeat minato? cause I know his sagemode duration is less than naruto's.

Yes Minato's physical stats are higher than Naruto's base stats, not SM. Him being faster in terms of shunshin doesn't apply because this is strictly taijutsu and all other jutsus are restricted but that depends on if the OP would include it for both characters if you mean in terms of foot speed, he's still not beating Naruto based on feats. Naruto will always be the better Sage.

I checked wiki prior to it, appearently shunshin is listed as ninjutsu so yes it's restricted for the first tournament.

 

[KidGamer65]

Yes Minato's physical stats are higher than Naruto's base stats, not SM. Him being faster in terms of shunshin doesn't apply because this is strictly taijutsu and all other jutsus are restricted but that depends on if the OP would include it for both characters if you mean in terms of foot speed, he's still not beating Naruto based on feats. Naruto will always be the better Sage.

Lmao Sage Mode is Sage Mode and they use the same exact one. If Base Minato>>Base Naruto's stats, then SM Minato>>SM Naruto's stats. Literally nothing more to it. Arguments like "Naruto is the better sage" is irrelevant because Minato's downfall in Senjutsu is in gathering it, but OP has him start in Sage Mode. If you want to prove that SM Naruto>SM Minato in physical stats then you better illustrate why the same Senjutsu won't give them the same buff. "feats" makes zero sense because Minato used Sage Mode for one attack. :lol

lol wow minato rekts so base stats do stack with sagemode. so is there any way SM naruto could defeat minato? cause I know his sagemode duration is less than naruto's.

Base Minato would beat SM Naruto handily so the SM duration doesn't matter, assuming it's an all out fight.

 

[EZQ]

Jiraiya definitely isn't winning this one, it's between Minato and Naruto, and they have the same exact benefits except Minato's physical stats should be higher than Naruto's and he's much faster so he'll probably win more times than not.


Minato's rasengan>Naruto's Rasengan>Jiraiya's Rasengan. Needle Jizo is almost useless here since it doesn't have the feats to block Rasengan, and if Jiraiya uses it to block a physical strike the assailant can easily follow up with Rasengan, which again, can't be blocked by Needle Jizo. So I favor Minato for the same reasons above combined with the fact he has the strongest Ninjutsu here.



S1: Minato wins with ease. He'd kill Jiraiya long before he entered Sage Mode, Naruto might be able to enter if he spams clones to prevent Minato from getting to his real body, but SM Naruto can't even defeat Minato.

S2: Minato honestly wins. These guys can't even tag him nor can they react to Hiraishin V2, and they might even end up weakening each other allowing Minato to strike them down. Minato easily has the advantage in these formats of matches because he can move across the battlefield instantly as long as he has markings, meaning Jiraiya and Naruto are going to be clashing with each other more frequently than they clash with Minato.

What kind of rasengan has Minato shown to be above Chou Odama ransengan? Unless this restriction is for all kinds of rasengan except for base rasengan.

 

[KidGamer65]

What kind of rasengan has Minato shown to be above Chou Odama ransengan? Unless this restriction is for all kinds of rasengan except for base rasengan.

Pretty sure only a normal Rasengan is allowed.

 

[EZQ]

Pretty sure only a normal Rasengan is allowed.

And why is Naruto's > Jiraiya's ?

 

[Exaar]

Minato in base could put up a very good fight against them both in SM in a 1v1, Giving him Sm is just a guaranteed victory for him.

 

[KidGamer65]

And why is Naruto's > Jiraiya's ?

Because Naruto is a perfect Sage, Jiraiya isn't.

 

[EZQ]

Because Naruto is a perfect Sage, Jiraiya isn't.

Mm fair enough

 

[madvictory]

SM Minato stomps. Since his base speed is naturally much faster than Naruto and Jiraiya's, and more importantly, he can tag the entire battlefield and proceed to move instantly with FTG, then he'd kill both of them quickly.
Also, Base Minato is already better than SM Naruto (w/ feats) and SM Jiraiya.