SM Jiraiya vs Kisame vs Muu

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So these are my 3 favorite characters and I wonder who among them is overall strongest and who beats who. Jiraiya starts in Sage Mode. Location is Madara vs Gokage, intel if full for all battles, Kisame has Samehada. Distance is 40 meters.

Kisame vs SM Jiraiya
Muu vs Kisame
SM Jiraiya vs Muu
 

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Mu is overall the strongest but Jiraiya should win this fight.

Actually Mu can go invisible and just let Kisame and Jiraiya fight it out and once Jiraiya has won, Mu finishes him off.
 

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Mu is overall the strongest but Jiraiya should win this fight.

Actually Mu can go invisible and just let Kisame and Jiraiya fight it out and once Jiraiya has won, Mu finishes him off.

This is actually 3 different battles, all 1v1
 

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Kisame can solo this, If kisame fuses with Samehada and uses Water Prison Shark Dance Technique it's over.
 

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kisame loses to both of them.

jiraiya beats Muu by forcing him to split(therefore losing jinton capability) after ambushing him w/ canopy barrier & lions mane, when the latter tries to hide

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Jiraiya beats Mū with medium difficulty, and beats Kisame with high difficulty. Mū beats Kisame with medium difficulty.

Overall, I'd say SM Jiraiya > Mū > Kisame > Jiraiya starting in base

Edit: Actually, I think Mū is more powerful overall than SM Jiraiya, just that the latter presents a bad matchup for him.
 
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I'd say, Kisame>Mu>Jiraiya

Base Jiraiya, yeah.

SM Jiraiya not so much.

Starting Jiraiya in SM wins him both of the fights. Start him in base in both fights and he probably loses both, definitely loses to Mu.

SM Jiraiya > Kisame
SM Jiraiya > Mu
Mu > Kisame
 

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Base Jiraiya, yeah.

SM Jiraiya not so much.

Starting Jiraiya in SM wins him both of the fights. Start him in base in both fights and he probably loses both, definitely loses to Mu.

SM Jiraiya > Kisame
SM Jiraiya > Mu
Mu > Kisame

You mean Jiraiya who took 5 years to go into Sage mode? Kisame fused with Samehada>Sage Mode Jiraiya, Kisame simply sucks out his chakra.
 

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You mean Jiraiya who took 5 years to go into Sage mode? Kisame fused with Samehada>Sage Mode Jiraiya, Kisame simply sucks out his chakra.

Except Jiraiya starts this fight in SM(and Jiraiya doesn't take "5 years" to get in to SM, lol).

And Kisame can turn to stone, then.

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Except Jiraiya starts this fight in SM(and Jiraiya doesn't take "5 years" to get in to SM, lol).

And Kisame can turn to stone, then.

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LOL, you mean slow as jiraiya? He ain't catching Kisame.
 

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Jiraiya's base speed without SM's enhancements is 4.5.

Kisame's base speed is 4.

Troll less please.

I think he means he won't be able to catch Kisame underwater when he's fused with the Samehada. I can kind of see that since Kisame's a very fast swimmer, but it's not like Jiraiya doesn't have counters to that
 

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I think he means he won't be able to catch Kisame underwater when he's fused with the Samehada. I can kind of see that since Kisame's a very fast swimmer, but it's not like Jiraiya doesn't have counters to that

Nah, he's just trolling.

No one who reads this manga is going to seriously suggest someone draining an SM user's chakra.
 

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Jiriaya beats Muu
Muu beats kisame
Jiriaya beats kisame if he starts in SM

Overall
Muu > SM Jiriaya > Kisame > Jiraiya
 

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Jiriaya beats Muu
Muu beats kisame
Jiriaya beats kisame if he starts in SM

Overall
Muu > SM Jiriaya > Kisame > Jiraiya

Not sure I follow here. Unless you're talking on a tier/grand scale in the sense that Mu is superior overall, but Jiraiya is just a bad matchup for him.
 

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Jiraiya is the strongest overall,
the aid of summons added with his versatile arsenal and SM clearly puts him above the rest,
Base Jiraiya was stated to be above Kisames league, so kisames the weakest here
 
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