SM Jiraiya vs Kakuzu

[Joki]

Lololol nice reply bucko.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

J man has nothing to break Domu Domu.

Un restrict frog song then he can kill one heart.

kakuzu can't even keep up with jiraiya's speed and raw power in sage mode, and that is without including jiraiya's jutsu, give me a brake. i like kakuzu but come on ..... against SM jiraiya ..... he is done.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

k simple

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How does this prove better reaction, you even left the prevous page of pain running towards him, how will he NOT be ready for that?



GG your ENTIRE post. I LOVE the 3 choices of stats you used to condemn Kakuzu and dig your own grave here lol. good work.

You didn't prove me wrong at all and yet still came with no counter for Domu Domu so GG to you sir.

 

[2big]

well naruto won without sage mode jairiah would win as soon as he intered sage mode if he even needed it

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

well naruto won without sage mode jairiah would win as soon as he intered sage mode if he even needed it

lol i agree

 

[Brother Numpsay]

kakuzu can't even keep up with jiraiya's speed
Tell me why Kakuzu can't

and raw power in sage mode

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his raw power is good but it is possible to physically block it. With Domu Kakuzu takes this physically[/b]
, and that is without including jiraiya's jutsu, give me a brake.
They both can overwhelm each other

i like kakuzu but come on ..... against SM jiraiya ..... he is done.

SM is a great feat but don't over look Kakuzu just because he has it

 

[Brother Numpsay]

well naruto won without sage mode jairiah would win as soon as he intered sage mode if he even needed it

Nice ABC logic /Sarcasm

Naruto would of not take on Kakuzu with all 5 of his hearts. Plus he was saved in that battle while having only 3 heats left, and each heart he loses, loses his feats.

 

[Joki]

You didn't prove me wrong at all and yet still came with no counter for Domu Domu so GG to you sir.

1st scan, Jiraiya's is still stronger, Kakuzu punched down an iron gate, Jiraiya punched a massive boss summon 30 meters away and one shotted it instantly.

2nd scan, lol Shikamaru has like a 2 in speed or some shit and still reacted to that. Nice try using those scans to convince me it was superior to anything.

3rd "counter" that didn't even have a scan, lol Pain didn't run towards him the page before that didn't show shit, it showed his feet take off the ground shunshining in attempt to blitz Jiraiya furthering my point. I left it out because I was being generous, you proved me right either way when none of those scans actually came close

You massively overrate Kakuzu. I can understand you have to fall back on those blatantly false scans, because Kakuzu doesn't actually have ANYTHING to compare and you have to desperately back him up.

Why do you HAVE to you might ask? Why can't you just admit all of Jiraiya's were superior? Because nah, there's no way you'd admit you're actually wrong.

Didn't you also say Kakuzu miraculously beats Kisame in his underwater prison and that Hidan can survive bijuu damas? Methinks you like the zombie bros too much that it clouds your judgment, you should try working on that or actually paying attention to the pictures.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

SM is a great feat but don't over look Kakuzu just because he has it

i already said that i like kakuzu (he is one of the coolest akatsuki members) and he is strong BUT we were given a match up and i gave an answer considering the circumstances mentioned (jiraiya is already in SM in this match up), considering both characters powers and status, so .... sorry but jiraiya is on another level. again that doesn't mean that kakuzu is weak, but am sure you already knew that most people would answer saying that jiraiya takes this even before looked at this thread, its the obvious bro and believe me if kakuzu has a chance of winning then i would say it but ..... he is just outclassed in this match up.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

1st scan, Jiraiya's is still stronger, Kakuzu punched down an iron gate, Jiraiya punched a massive boss summon 30 meters away and one shotted it instantly.
Lol at you jumping to conclusion, the image was to show that by Strength in this battle, J man will not overwhelm Kakuzu in battle. If I was to prove it that Kakuzu was I would of post a pick of Kakuzu knocking somone 30 meters. Kakuzu's Domu, as you have seen is a dangerous jutsu to physically attack. It so phyicaly durable that it was able to break through an Iron Gate with one punch. J man attempting to clash strength with Domu activate results to J man losing in Strength escpaically after seeing this block:

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2nd scan, lol Shikamaru has like a 2 in speed or some shit and still reacted to that. Nice try using those scans to convince me it was superior to anything.
Same explanation it wasn't proving that J won't react as Shiki would....

3rd "counter" that didn't even have a scan, lol Pain didn't run towards him the page before that didn't show shit, it showed his feet take off the ground shunshining in attempt to blitz Jiraiya furthering my point.
contradicting your self. "the scan doesn't show anything. The scan showed something".
I left it out because I was being generous, you proved me right either way when none of those scans actually came close
Still didn't prove me wrong Pain attempt attack because he was impatient with the frogs arguing. Lets put kakuzu in the situation, will kakuzu react in time since this scan proofs he has better reaction?

You massively overrate Kakuzu. I can understand you have to fall back on those blatantly false scans, because Kakuzu doesn't actually have ANYTHING to compare and you have to desperately back him up.
Last time I check these actually happened in the manga, I'm not making these manga pages up. You still are ignoring the fact the He cant pass through his defense.

Why do you HAVE to you might ask? Why can't you just admit all of Jiraiya's were superior? Because nah, there's no way you'd admit you're actually wrong.
J man does have things that are superior and so does kakuzu

Didn't you also say Kakuzu miraculously beats Kisame in his underwater prison
Show me where I say Kakuzu beats Kisame underwater

and that Hidan can survive bijuu damas?
Yes, this was more of a theoretic approach with lack of detail, which means it is no way it would reason in anyone's mind as for now.

Methinks you like the zombie bros too much that it clouds your judgment, you should try working on that or actually paying attention to the pictures.

Trust me I am paying close to them, you shouldn't jump the gun to my arugments either, the same thing you did with Kakuzu>Kisame thread. And it's funny how you like to conclude that I only care about arugening with the Zombies brother only but ignore other people characters I defend

 

[Brother Numpsay]

i already said that i like kakuzu (he is one of the coolest akatsuki members) and he is strong BUT we were given a match up and i gave an answer considering the circumstances mentioned (jiraiya is already in SM in this match up), considering both characters powers and status, so .... sorry but jiraiya is on another level. again that doesn't mean that kakuzu is weak, but am sure you already knew that most people would answer saying that jiraiya takes this even before looked at this thread, its the obvious bro and believe me if kakuzu has a chance of winning then i would say it but ..... he is just outclassed in this match up.

No one is bringing anything to the table on why.

Just say SM wins because it is SM.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

No one is bringing anything to the table on why.

Just say SM wins because it is SM.

alright sure kakuzu win .... does that make you feel better ?? .... the winner of that match up is obvious but if you wana think otherwise then go ahead .... but one question what exactly do you mean by bringing nothing to the table ?? i already said that kakuzu can't even keep up with jiraiya's speed and raw power in sage mode (that is without considering his jutsu) and you think that kakuzu has a chance .... you are the one who wants to make this a debate, yet i don't even understand what the hell is your argument based on ??

 

[Brother Numpsay]

alright sure kakuzu win .... does that make you feel better ??
Lol what? Last time I check this is a thread discussion not something you be whiny about and post and hopefully everyone jumps in the bandwagon of agreeing with you

.... the winner of that match up is obvious but if you wana think otherwise then go ahead ....
If it was obvious then no one would have another opinion on Kakuzu's feats taking this

but one question what exactly do you mean by bringing nothing to the table ??
bringing something to the table meaning what can J-man (jutsu-wise/ Taijutsu-wise) do defeat Kakuzu

i already said that kakuzu can't keep up with jiraiya's speed
Having "a better speed doesn't determine the victor

in and raw power in sage mode (that is without considering his jutsu) and you think that kakuzu has a chance
Domu counters his raw power

.... you are the one who wants to make this a debate, yet i don't even understand what the hell is your argument based on ??

I wanted to make this a debate because I assume that this was a thread discussion. Excuse me guys.
Arguement is base on a battle between two shinobi's from the Naruto verse and who will likely claim victory.

You already made it clear that you are not here to debate but just to shout out winner. I'll call it a night since no one is here to have a discussions.

Happy New Years.

 

[Kages]

Jiraiya Mid Diff

 

[Joki]

Lol at you jumping to conclusion, the image was to show that by Strength in this battle, J man will not overwhelm Kakuzu in battle. If I was to prove it that Kakuzu was I would of post a pick of Kakuzu knocking somone 30 meters. Kakuzu's Domu, as you have seen is a dangerous jutsu to physically attack. It so phyicaly durable that it was able to break through an Iron Gate with one punch. J man attempting to clash strength with Domu activate results to J man losing in Strength escpaically after seeing this block:

Writing a big paragraph doesn't change that Jiraiya's was superior, and since you're admitting right here that Jiraiya's strength feat was superior to Domu's, then I won the argument. That's the end of that one.

Same explanation it wasn't proving that J won't react as Shiki would....

So in order to counter Jiraiya's incredible speed, you post a scan of Shikamaru(2.5 speed again FTR) REACTING to Kakuzu's "attempted" blitz, then when called out on that not actually being superior, you try and claim you just posted that scan "for the lulz" or for no actual reason since it has literally no relevance.

Still didn't prove me wrong Pain attempt attack because he was impatient with the frogs arguing. Lets put kakuzu in the situation, will kakuzu react in time since this scan proofs he has better reaction?

Lol, the scan of a kid with 2.5 speed reacting to Kakuzu's attempt at a punch proves he has better reaction than pain paths in which with half chakra can easily dodge FRS?

Show me where I say Kakuzu beats Kisame underwater

Please don't tell me you're actually denying this. You even said the name of the thread in this post.

Yes, this was more of a theoretic approach with lack of detail, which means it is no way it would reason in anyone's mind as for now.

Right.

Trust me I am paying close to them, you shouldn't jump the gun to my arugments either, the same thing you did with Kakuzu>Kisame thread. And it's funny how you like to conclude that I only care about arugening with the Zombies brother only but ignore other people characters I defend

Who else is relevant here but Hidan, Kakuzu doesn't exactly have all that many relations that could hint at you massively being biased towards a particular group. And you sound a little desperate to defend your points but hey that was already established that Jiraiya's are quite obviously superior based solely on just looking at them.

If you were paying close attention to them why are you posting vastly inferior scans and pretending like they matter? It's very obvious with that said you're blatantly ignoring the truth to back up Kakuzu who may or may not be your favorite character, regardless. I only needed those 3 scans to turn any argument you could possibly form around those 3 categories useless, and I've been proven right, those 3 scans still stand completely legitimate and unscathed. Kakuzu simply can't compare.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

I wanted to make this a debate because I assume that this was a thread discussion. Excuse me guys.
Arguement is base on a battle between two shinobi's from the Naruto verse and who will likely claim victory.

You already made it clear that you are not here to debate but just to shout out winner. I'll call it a night since no one is here to have a discussions.

Happy New Years.

actually when a match up has an obvious winner like this one, there is no need for a debate. kakuzu has nothing to be even compared to jiraiya in a match up (pointless) and in SM the j-man surpasses him in every aspect (you should already know this from reading/watching the series) so what were you even debating about ?? well .... its all good bro. HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

[Masked man]

I recently made thread that if Jiraiya can beat Susano'o.
The most of people said he can (lower version but he can) and I think Susano'o > Domu no jutsu
So in my opinion, Jiraiya can break Kakuzu's domu.
Even Jiraiya has better speed, strength and Taijutsu in the base. In SM, all those stats are dramatically increased, so Jiraiya after active SM has speed and reflexes similar to Raikage, strength as Tsunade and Taijutsu on the same level or better than Gai..

 

[Negative Knight]

Jiriaya mid-high diff.

 

[Kirigaya Kazuto]

Jiraiya high difficulty

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Writing a big paragraph doesn't change that Jiraiya's was superior, and since you're admitting right here that Jiraiya's strength feat was superior to Domu's, then I won the argument. That's the end of that one.

I think your anger and frustration determines how you want to read my post. Why are you so stress out over this. You come at me for not reading carefully and yet you come and change my words claiming that I said J-man breaks Domu? When my main point of the arguments is to show that physically J-man can't do it to Domu. J-man and needs frog song to disrupt the activation of this defense. Here let me shorten it for you see you have a problem with reading a paragraph (This was in the last sentence):" J man attempting to clash strength with Domu activate results to J man losing in Strength". Let me seprate the sentense for you since it became a paragraph:

" J man attempting to clash strength with Domu activate results to J man losing in Strength "


So in order to counter Jiraiya's incredible speed, you post a scan of Shikamaru(2.5 speed again FTR) REACTING to Kakuzu's "attempted" blitz,
This was exactly a page under strength, try reading post again
then when called out on that not actually being superior, you try and claim you just posted that scan "for the lulz" or for no actual reason since it has literally no relevance.
I'm gonna help you out again, try reading what section I post the image at

Lol, the scan of a kid with 2.5 speed reacting to Kakuzu's attempt at a punch proves he has better reaction than pain paths in which with half chakra can easily dodge FRS?
The scan was to show Kakuzu using Domu's physical attack (It was still under strength section), hardening his body makes him take J-man in a result of strength

Please don't tell me you're actually denying this. You even said the name of the thread in this post. Right.
Does not make sense: You can bump up the thread if you like. We both already conclude Kakuzu dies 1/5 from there/
Who else is relevant here but Hidan,
Hidan is relevant because I decided to go with the underdog of this thread?
Kakuzu doesn't exactly have all that many relations that could hint at you massively being biased towards a particular group.
Show me where I said/ show scan in my post (AFTER RE READING MY POST)

And you sound a little desperate to defend your points but hey that was already established that Jiraiya's are quite obviously superior based solely on just looking at them.If you were paying close attention to them why are you posting vastly inferior scans and pretending like they matter? It's very obvious with that said you're blatantly ignoring the truth to back up Kakuzu who may or may not be your favorite character, regardless. I only needed those 3 scans to turn any argument you could possibly form around those 3 categories useless, and I've been proven right, those 3 scans still stand completely legitimate and unscathed. Kakuzu simply can't compare.

This is like Sasuke vs Danzo they both have something that is superior to reach other and it now determines how they could use it.
-You still have no counter for Domu. Breaking through his defense first shows what kakuzu plans to do next.