SM Jiraiya vs EMS Sasuke

[BenjerminGaye]

Ammy roasts them, good, less time roasting Jiraiya while he's trapping Sasuke in frog song.

Like I said. Base=/=SM. Twice Naruto's size is still by far smaller than Jiraiya's.

like i said. thats the weakest version of the susanno'. jiraiya gets roasted before sasuke gets hit with frong song.

 

[GiantShuriken]

Amaterasu!

 

[Joki]

like i said. thats the weakest version of the susanno'. jiraiya gets roasted before sasuke gets hit with frong song.

Also a far weaker version of Rasengan in basically every aspect.

With no LOS, and completely oblivious of toad army, alright because that's happening.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Also a far weaker version of Rasengan in basically every aspect.

With no LOS, and completely oblivious of toad army, alright because that's happening.

rib cage susanno is far weaker than a full susanno and i have never seen jman summon more than one frog at a time.

 

[Joki]

rib cage susanno is far weaker than a full susanno and i have never seen jman summon more than one frog at a time.

He's summoned all of them before, and I haven't seen such a considerable difference in Susano'os that matches the gap between Rasengan levels.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

He's summoned all of them before, and I haven't seen such a considerable difference in Susano'os that matches the gap between Rasengan levels.

show me a scan of him summoning 3 at once.
and yes there is a considerable difference between ribcage and ribcage,skin, armour , and a shield that doubles as a crossbow. the additional layers to the susanno compensate the change in size of the rasengan.

 

[Joki]

show me a scan of him summoning 3 at once.
and yes there is a considerable difference between ribcage and ribcage,skin, armour , and a shield that doubles as a crossbow. the additional layers to the susanno compensate the change in size of the rasengan.

Why at once, it's not like Sasuke can get around boss summon and murder a high kage level in the less than 1 second it takes to summon another.

Not really, Sage enhanced chakra increases their power plenty more than more susano'os increase their defence.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Why at once, it's not like Sasuke can get around boss summon and murder a high kage level in the less than 1 second it takes to summon another.

Not really, Sage enhanced chakra increases their power plenty more than more susano'os increase their defence.

sasuke looks at jman. jman burns.
if jman summons the summons burn.just like the 8 tails. they will writhe around in agony becoming a hindrance to jman himself.
frog song would be his saving grace but, like the rest they will burn to.

and no. jmans sage art ultra big ball rasengan will not get through a full susanno

 

[Joki]

sasuke looks at jman. jman burns.
if jman summons the summons burn.just like the 8 tails. they will writhe around in agony becoming a hindrance to jman himself.
frog song would be his saving grace but, like the rest they will burn to.

and no. jmans sage art ultra big ball rasengan will not get through a full susanno

If he's busy using Ammy at the start of the fight, he's open to getting a 200 ton toad dropped on his head.

I presume you have some sort of proof of susano'os tanking ability and wouldn't make such a claim otherwise?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

If he's busy using Ammy at the start of the fight, he's open to getting a 200 ton toad dropped on his head.

I presume you have some sort of proof of susano'os tanking ability and wouldn't make such a claim otherwise?

jman has to jump above him to drop a 200 ton toad on his head while sasuke has to look at him for him to burn.

you have no proof that a rasengan regardless of size breaks through a susanno while i have proof that the weakest form of susanno tanks a ultra-big ball rasengan with ease.

 

[Icelerate]

Sasuke could do this to Jiraiya:

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with this:

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As for Joki who thinks Frog song is a factor in this fight well this is what happens to Ma and Pa:

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Anyway the susanoo that Sasuke used against the Sand Siblings during the kage summit arc will effortlessly block Jiraiya's ninjutsu.

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If you think the combined fire power of Darui, Temari, Gaara and Kankuro is inferior to Jiraiya, read the manga again.

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

EMS Sasuke wins mid diff, Jiraiya cannot dodge Amaterasu, Susano'o arrows and Enton:Magatama.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Sasuke low/ mid diff. Sasuke surpassed the Sannins a long time ago.

 

[Joki]

Sasuke could do this to Jiraiya:

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[BenjerminGaye]

You should take into account the other factors of the fight before making such ridiculous conclusions.

please state your other factors. both start at base and it is far easier for sasuke to look at jman than it is for jman to do anything.

 

[Joki]

jman has to jump above him to drop a 200 ton toad on his head while sasuke has to look at him for him to burn.

you have no proof that a rasengan regardless of size breaks through a susanno while i have proof that the weakest form of susanno tanks a ultra-big ball rasengan with ease.

...no he doesn't? Where did you get that crazy idea?

Base Naruto's clone's clone's rasengan that is far smaller than Jiraiya's and not sage enhanced in any way is what you meant to say.

please state your other factors. both start at base and it is far easier for sasuke to look at jman than it is for jman to do anything.

I told you to take account the other factors so you wouldn't say retarded stuff like "hurr ammy one shots a massively high kage level before he can react".

 

[BenjerminGaye]

...no he doesn't? Where did you get that crazy idea?

Base Naruto's clone's clone's rasengan that is far smaller than Jiraiya's and not sage enhanced in any way is what you meant to say.

I told you to take account the other factors so you wouldn't say retarded stuff like "hurr ammy one shots a massively high kage level before he can react".

how else is the toad gonna drop on sasuke? for him to summon he has to bite his finger and slap his hand on the floor. The toad is then summoned to his location. did you forget how summons work? It cant just automatically pop up above sasuke's head! For sasuke to burn him all he has to do is look at him and the flames automatically appear on jman. jman's base reaction time is a far cry compared to the raikage, and minato even in sage mode so i don't see how it is even possible for him to dodge.

As for the rasengan i showed proof of the weakest susanno tanking an above normal size rasengan. you on the other hand only have hype.

Not once did you say how jman beats ems sasuke without me shooting the idea down. not once did you give an effective counter to sasuke's amaterasu.

 

[shelke]

Jiriya loses big time here. He isn't fast enough to dodge Magatama, arrows - that are much faster than a single hand-seal - enton arrows, and Sussano grabs. Sasuke can encase his CS within enton flames, use magatama with the third sussano hand, while he picks him off with the other two Sussano hands using Enton arrows, or arrows in general. Jiriya's Rasangan attacks won't get through a wall of Amatersu alone, let alone the CS inside enton whch can be further manipulated into spikes and other shapes.

Jiriyas most powerful attacks in sage mode require hand seals and that can be easily dealt with by manipulating the lee-way to shower him with magatamas and arrows at the same time. I am afraid to say this, but this is a low-mid difference win max. Jiriya is far too weak compared to EMS Sasuke. Not to mention his sage mode is imperfect and would last less than Naruto's who had a perfect one and only lasted 5 mins - a time he extended with clones gathering energy.

 

[ninjabot]

Sasuke wins decisively. Jiraiya may be able to drop toads on people, but remember: Susanoo can be manifested FAR faster than that toad can drop. Itachi summoned a Susanoo so quickly that it blocked a lightning bolt (Kirin) that hit in 1/1000th of a second. No way in hell that toad falls as quickly, or has the same striking force. Sasuke's Sharingan would read Jiraiya's handseals the moment he begins, warning him of something coming to begin with, causing him to get outta dodge with a well timed Shunshin or activation of Susanoo anyway, so that's definately not the gamebreaker here.

If Jiraiya were to result to summoning Bunta, Hiro, or Ken, Sasuke'd simply do what he did with Manda: Genjutsu them into subjugation. Maybe he kills them right off... maybe he forces them to attack Jiraiya. Either way Jiraiya's toads pose little threat.

 

[Joki]

how else is the toad gonna drop on sasuke? for him to summon he has to bite his finger and slap his hand on the floor. The toad is then summoned to his location. did you forget how summons work? It cant just automatically pop up above sasuke's head! For sasuke to burn him all he has to do is look at him and the flames automatically appear on jman. jman's base reaction time is a far cry compared to the raikage, and minato even in sage mode so i don't see how it is even possible for him to dodge.

As for the rasengan i showed proof of the weakest susanno tanking an above normal size rasengan. you on the other hand only have hype.

You're ignoring the other factors such as, bleeding eyes, chakra buildup, intense pressure that's hardly ignorable, etc.
You seem to be confused how this jutsu works, allow me to help you with that:

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Tsunade's punches tore through a stronger form with ease. When have Tsunade's punches destroyed mountains?

Not once did you say how jman beats ems sasuke without me shooting the idea down. not once did you give an effective counter to sasuke's amaterasu.

Don't ignore obvious things and take into account everything else and maybe I'll take your posts more seriously.