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This gauntlet is isn't necessarily round by round, just post who you think SM Jiraiya wins against and/or loses to.
Location: Grassy field
Starting distance: 50 meters
Intel: Manga

- SM Jiraiya vs. Tsunade and Sakura (can't use more than 10% of Katsuyu)
- SM Jiraiya vs. Kakuzu and Hidan
- SM Jiraiya vs. Hebi
- SM Jiraiya vs. 6th Gate Guy and Lee (Lee has Asakujaku)
- SM Jiraiya vs. Orochimaru w/ 2 mid level Edos
- SM Jiraiya vs. MS Kakashi
- SM Jiraiya vs. Tobirama Senju w/ 2 fodder Edo
- SM Jiraiya vs. Gengetsu Hōzuki
- SM Jiraiya vs. Third Raikage
- SM Jiraiya vs. Kisame
- SM Jiraiya vs. MS Tobi w/ Izanagi

Edit: Orochimaru has Sakon/Ukon and Kidomaru as edos. Not necessesarily fodder, but not really high level either.
 
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He makes it up to 6th Gate Guy and Lee before you start to question if he can get Gama Rinsho off. Tobi might be the only one who could survive Gama Rinsho, but even then I'm not sure he'd be capable of using his Isanagi, given Gama Rinsho paralyzes both body and mind.

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He makes it up to 6th Gate Guy and Lee before you start to question if he can get Gama Rinsho off. Tobi might be the only one who could survive Gama Rinsho, but even then I'm not sure he'd be capable of using his Isanagi, given Gama Rinsho paralyzes both body and mind.

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Like I said, this isn't round by round. Just tell me who he wins against amongst the aforementioned group of shinobi
 

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- SM Jiraiya vs. Tsunade and Sakura (can't use more than 10% of Katsuyu)
Jiraiya spanks.
- SM Jiraiya vs. Kakuzu and Hidan
Jiraiya high diff. Will be a pain to get rid of the duo.
- SM Jiraiya vs. Hebi
Jiraiya wins mid diff.
- SM Jiraiya vs. 6th Gate Guy and Lee (Lee has Asakujaku)
Jiraiya can't react to their speeds when attacking simultaneously .
- SM Jiraiya vs. Orochimaru w/ 2 mid level Edos
Don't know what edo's doe. Mid level is too vague, so I'll give his to Jiraiya assuming mid level=Chunin-Jounin level.
- SM Jiraiya vs. MS Kakashi
MS Kakashi wins this pretty badly.
- SM Jiraiya vs. Tobirama Senju w/ 2 fodder Edo
Tobirama destroys.
- SM Jiraiya vs. Gengetsu Hōzuki
Mangetsu lacks the feats to put him above Jiraiya.
- SM Jiraiya vs. Third Raikage
3rd Raikage low-mid diff.
- SM Jiraiya vs. Kisame
Kisame low diff.
- SM Jiraiya vs. MS Tobi w/ Izanagi
Tobi neg diff.
 

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1- SM Jiraiya vs. Tsunade and Sakura: Jiraya wins low-mid difficulty at most
2- SM Jiraiya vs. Kakuzu and Hidan: Jiraya wins low-mid difficulty at most
3- SM Jiraiya vs. Hebi Sasuke: Jiraya low difficulty
4- SM Jiraiya vs. 6th Gate Guy and Lee (Lee has Asakujaku): Jiraya mid difficulty
5- SM Jiraiya vs. Orochimaru w/ 2 mid level Edos: Jiraya mid-high difficulty depending on the edo(he has no sealing jutsu known, but he can lock some in the toad barrier)
6- SM Jiraiya vs. MS Kakashi: Jiraya wins mid difficulty
7- SM Jiraiya vs. Tobirama Senju w/ 2 fodder Edo: Tobirama mid difficulty
8- SM Jiraiya vs. Gengetsu Hōzuki: Jiraya low difficulty
9- SM Jiraiya vs. Third Raikage: Jiraya with around high-very high difficulty
10- SM Jiraiya vs. Kisame: Jiraya mid difficulty
11- SM Jiraiya vs. MS Tobi w/ Izanagi: Tobi wins mid-high difficulty
 

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1- SM Jiraiya vs. Tsunade and Sakura: Jiraya wins low-mid difficulty at most
2- SM Jiraiya vs. Kakuzu and Hidan: Jiraya wins low-mid difficulty at most
3- SM Jiraiya vs. Hebi Sasuke: Jiraya low difficulty
4- SM Jiraiya vs. 6th Gate Guy and Lee (Lee has Asakujaku): Jiraya mid difficulty
5- SM Jiraiya vs. Orochimaru w/ 2 mid level Edos: Jiraya mid-high difficulty depending on the edo(he has no sealing jutsu known, but he can lock some in the toad barrier)
6- SM Jiraiya vs. MS Kakashi: Jiraya wins mid difficulty
7- SM Jiraiya vs. Tobirama Senju w/ 2 fodder Edo: Tobirama mid difficulty
8- SM Jiraiya vs. Gengetsu Hōzuki: Jiraya low difficulty
9- SM Jiraiya vs. Third Raikage: Jiraya with around high-very high difficulty
10- SM Jiraiya vs. Kisame: Jiraya mid difficulty
11- SM Jiraiya vs. MS Tobi w/ Izanagi: Tobi wins mid-high difficulty
Can you explain how MS Kakashi loses to Jiraiya? I don't see it happening since half Jiraiya's large scale attacks are countered with Raiton or Hiding like a mole. Kakashi's speed feats are superior as well, he's more analytical and he has the Sharingan.

Lee and Gai definitely are too fast.

3rd Raikage is not being hurt by any of Jiraiya's jutsu imo.

Kisame drowns Jiraiya without much difficulty. Oil is absorbed since it's chakra based.

How does Jiraiya push Tobi to mid-high diff?.....
 

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^Kisame low diffing SM Jiraiya? Chilllllll

OT: Beats Kakuzu and Hidan, Hebi, Orochimaru (Maybe), Trollkage, 3rd Raikage, and Kisame
Loses to Gai and Lee, MS Kakashi, Tobirama, and Tobi
 

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Can you explain how MS Kakashi loses to Jiraiya? I don't see it happening since half Jiraiya's large scale attacks are countered with Raiton or Hiding like a mole. Kakashi's speed feats are superior as well, he's more analytical and he has the Sharingan.

Lee and Gai definitely are too fast.

3rd Raikage is not being hurt by any of Jiraiya's jutsu imo.

Kisame drowns Jiraiya without much difficulty. Oil is absorbed since it's chakra based.

How does Jiraiya push Tobi to mid-high diff?.....
Jiraya has much more chakra than Kakashi in base, so let alone in SM where Pa and Ma will provide him unlimited natural energy to spam his techniques. While Kakashi has the variety advantage, Jiraya has the superiority in fire power. Just in base, his katon combined with Gamabunta's oil(as a support) could incinerate an entire forest, so let alone in sage mode. I don't see Kakashi's suiton for example countering that despite the superior affinity due the vast difference in fire power. He would have to dodge it with doton techniques. His senpou goemon(in combo) can incinerate steel-like materials like ashes upon contact and they could fill the entire room where Jiraya and Pain were fighting(luckily Gakido could absorb it in time but Kakashi can't. He'd again have to dodge with doton or escape the environement somehow and eventhen the hole created by the doton technique may be filled by the hot liquid created by Jiraya's attack), creating deformations in the environment(i think it will damage even Sandaime Raikage if it hits).

In base, Kakashi had the advantage in speed and taijutsu, but in SM, Jiraya's speed and taijutsu drastically upgrades to the point he could blitz Animal Path with one shunshin despite being far away from him and having enough strength to completely blind him with one punch. He can also use clones and add Pa/Ma into the mix who could provide him not only with their strong fuuton, oil, fire, genjutsu, sage art techniques but also cover his angles and give him supplementary knowledge/wisdom and intelligence. The only dangerous jutsu will be kamui, but databook says Jiraya can use frog katas, which means as well that he possessing sage danger sensing. He should be able to sense Kamui and counter in time(and even if he couldn't, Pa and Ma are there to do it for him).

Frog katas also gives him invisible hits in close range taijutsu that can only be seen by sage mode users(that means Kakashi can't see it), but also a small flight ability by repeatedly kicking the air. With his superiority in chakra, he could also spam clones and in the end, Kakashi will be overwhelmed. He has detection barriers, toad barriers(to trap his enemies like he did with animal path) and all his base nin-tai-genjutsu gets increased to the extreme and i didn't even mention Pa/Ma's dangerous jutsus like frog song or frog genjutsu. Now analyze all what i've said and you'll understand why i think he'd either win or give problems against all these people. Kisame for example literally can't trap him(with his fligth ability) and absorbing his sage chakra would be a mistake. His scale alongside his summons(that dwarfs the range of his suiton jutsu) also make things even worse. If anything, he is a bad match-up for Kisame. I think you're drastically underestimating the power of SM Jiraya
 

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Like I said, this isn't round by round. Just tell me who he wins against amongst the aforementioned group of shinobi


- SM Jiraiya vs. Tsunade and Sakura (can't use more than 10% of Katsuyu) - Jiraiya wins. He has full intel on Tsunade's abilities, and thus Sakura's as well.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Kakuzu and Hidan - Jiraiya wins thanks to Fukasaku and Shima's ability to keep him from getting cut by Hidan and their help in combating Kakuzu's elements.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Hebi - I always get Sasuke's group names mixed up. Is this the one that fought Bee?

- SM Jiraiya vs. 6th Gate Guy and Lee (Lee has Asakujaku) - Questionable. Their speed is so great and they have the power in gates to knock summons away. He would need to get them stuck in Yomi Numa, I would think.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Orochimaru w/ 2 mid level Edos - If Orochimaru has knowledge of Fukasaku and Shima's powers(and I wouldn't put it past him), this could be difficult. It would also depend on who his "mid level" edos are, as their skill sets could prove to be either challenging or no issue at all for Jiraiya. Questionable.

- SM Jiraiya vs. MS Kakashi - There's a slight question if Kakashi decides to go straight to kamui or not given he's aware Jiraiya . It's still not in character for Kakashi to do that though, so I'll stick with Jiraiya.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Tobirama Senju w/ 2 fodder Edo - Another issue where speed(and teleportation) makes it difficult for Jiraiya to win. Also not sure he has knowledge of Tobirama's Edo strategy. Give this one to Tobirama.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Gengetsu Hōzuki - It's been a long time since I've read the fight between Hozuki and the Shinobi Alliance, so my knowledge on his abilities is shaky at best, so no comment here.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Third Raikage - Sort of similar to Hozuki in it being a while since I've read his fight, but his arsenal was a much more simple one. I would imagine Jiraiya is likely aware of the Third's hype, but again this becomes an issue of speed. Jiraiya doesn't possess the ability to hurt the Third without the use of Gama Rinsho, and the trial and error of figuring that out likely gets Jiraiya killed. Third Raikage wins.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Kisame - Kisame is arrogant, but it's unlikely he would bother messing around with Jiraiya. This matchup is interesting because Jiraiya would likely end up finding out that samehada doesn't do well with fire, which could end up turning this match to Jiraiya's favor as I'm not sure how Samehada would react after having to deal with . Kakashi notes that , and Goemon is a mixture of katon, futon and oil. I see Jiraiya being able to prevent Kisame from fusing with Samehada and pulling off Sameodori. Jiraiya wins.

- SM Jiraiya vs. MS Tobi w/ Izanagi - Not sure Jiraiya can last long enough here to figure out his only option is using Gama Rinsho, and even by some miracle he does pull it off I'm not sure if Izanagi would work inside of it or not. Tobi wins.
 

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Jiraya has much more chakra than Kakashi in base, so let alone in SM where Pa and Ma will provide him unlimited natural energy to spam his techniques. While Kakashi has the variety advantage, Jiraya has the superiority in fire power. Just in base, his katon combined with Gamabunta's oil(as a support) could incinerate an entire forest, so let alone in sage mode. I don't see Kakashi's suiton for example countering that despite the superior affinity due the vast difference in fire power. He would have to dodge it with doton techniques. His senpou goemon(in combo) can incinerate steel-like materials like ashes upon contact and they could fill the entire room where Jiraya and Pain were fighting(luckily Gakido could absorb it in time but Kakashi can't. He'd again have to dodge with doton or escape the environement somehow and eventhen the hole created by the doton technique may be filled by the hot liquid created by Jiraya's attack), creating deformations in the environment(i think it will damage even Sandaime Raikage if it hits).

In base, Kakashi had the advantage in speed and taijutsu, but in SM, Jiraya's speed and taijutsu drastically upgrades to the point he could blitz Animal Path with one shunshin despite being far away from him and having enough strength to completely blind him with one punch. He can also use clones and add Pa/Ma into the mix who could provide him not only with their strong fuuton, oil, fire, genjutsu, sage art techniques but also cover his angles and give him supplementary knowledge/wisdom and intelligence. The only dangerous jutsu will be kamui, but databook says Jiraya can use frog katas, which means as well that he possessing sage danger sensing. He should be able to sense Kamui and counter in time(and even if he couldn't, Pa and Ma are there to do it for him).

Frog katas also gives him invisible hits in close range taijutsu that can only be seen by sage mode users(that means Kakashi can't see it), but also a small flight ability by repeatedly kicking the air. With his superiority in chakra, he could also spam clones and in the end, Kakashi will be overwhelmed. He has detection barriers, toad barriers(to trap his enemies like he did with animal path) and all his base nin-tai-genjutsu gets increased to the extreme and i didn't even mention Pa/Ma's dangerous jutsus like frog song or frog genjutsu. Now analyze all what i've said and you'll understand why i think he'd either win or give problems against all these people. Kisame for example literally can't trap him(with his fligth ability) and absorbing his sage chakra would be a mistake. His scale alongside his summons(that dwarfs the range of his suiton jutsu) also make things even worse. If anything, he is a bad match-up for Kisame. I think you're drastically underestimating the power of SM Jiraya
- MS Kakashi (war arc) has around 60-70% of base Jiraiya's stamina, which is very high considering Jiraiya's chakra levels are among the highest in the series
- He can warp himself out of the range of large scale attacks if hiding like a mole doesn't work, while prepping strategies and attacks from another angle before he warps himself back.
- I don't think SM Jiraiya can react to the speed of Kamui.

I agree with all your other points, though. SM Jiraiya is definitely high kage level. His summons, versatility, sage chakra, and vast arsenal of techniques (plus Ma and Pa as icing on the cake) make him a valid threat against nearly everyone in the NV imo.
 

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- SM Jiraiya vs. Tsunade and Sakura (can't use more than 10% of Katsuyu) - Jiraiya wins. He has full intel on Tsunade's abilities, and thus Sakura's as well.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Kakuzu and Hidan - Jiraiya wins thanks to Fukasaku and Shima's ability to keep him from getting cut by Hidan and their help in combating Kakuzu's elements.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Hebi - I always get Sasuke's group names mixed up. Is this the one that fought Bee?

- SM Jiraiya vs. 6th Gate Guy and Lee (Lee has Asakujaku) - Questionable. Their speed is so great and they have the power in gates to knock summons away. He would need to get them stuck in Yomi Numa, I would think.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Orochimaru w/ 2 mid level Edos - If Orochimaru has knowledge of Fukasaku and Shima's powers(and I wouldn't put it past him), this could be difficult. It would also depend on who his "mid level" edos are, as their skill sets could prove to be either challenging or no issue at all for Jiraiya. Questionable.

- SM Jiraiya vs. MS Kakashi - There's a slight question if Kakashi decides to go straight to kamui or not given he's aware Jiraiya . It's still not in character for Kakashi to do that though, so I'll stick with Jiraiya.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Tobirama Senju w/ 2 fodder Edo - Another issue where speed(and teleportation) makes it difficult for Jiraiya to win. Also not sure he has knowledge of Tobirama's Edo strategy. Give this one to Tobirama.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Gengetsu Hōzuki - It's been a long time since I've read the fight between Hozuki and the Shinobi Alliance, so my knowledge on his abilities is shaky at best, so no comment here.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Third Raikage - Sort of similar to Hozuki in it being a while since I've read his fight, but his arsenal was a much more simple one. I would imagine Jiraiya is likely aware of the Third's hype, but again this becomes an issue of speed. Jiraiya doesn't possess the ability to hurt the Third without the use of Gama Rinsho, and the trial and error of figuring that out likely gets Jiraiya killed. Third Raikage wins.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Kisame - Kisame is arrogant, but it's unlikely he would bother messing around with Jiraiya. This matchup is interesting because Jiraiya would likely end up finding out that samehada doesn't do well with fire, which could end up turning this match to Jiraiya's favor as I'm not sure how Samehada would react after having to deal with . Kakashi notes that , and Goemon is a mixture of katon, futon and oil. I see Jiraiya being able to prevent Kisame from fusing with Samehada and pulling off Sameodori. Jiraiya wins.

- SM Jiraiya vs. MS Tobi w/ Izanagi - Not sure Jiraiya can last long enough here to figure out his only option is using Gama Rinsho, and even by some miracle he does pull it off I'm not sure if Izanagi would work inside of it or not. Tobi wins.
- It was Taka that fought Bee. Hebi is the same as Taka w/o Sasuke's MS and Hawk summons.
- I'm probably a known fan of Jiraiya by now, but I seriously believe that you're underestimating Kakashi (like most people seem to do on this site from what I've perceived so far). He'd give Jiraiya a good fight.
- Added Sakon/Ukon and Kidomaru as Orochimaru's edos
 

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- It was Taka that fought Bee. Hebi is the same as Taka w/o Sasuke's MS and Hawk summons.
- I'm probably a known fan of Jiraiya by now, but I seriously believe that you're underestimating Kakashi (like most people seem to do on this site from what I've perceived so far). He'd give Jiraiya a good fight.
- Added Sakon/Ukon and Kidomaru as Orochimaru's edos
Not underestimating Kakashi at all, but Kakashi is not made to fight someone like Jiraiya. People make note of his war-arc stamina feats, which are undoubtedly impressive compared to what he used to do, but before using raiden, he was . We weren't notified of it at the time, but it was confirmed later, being inside the kyuubi cloak(or Naruto giving you one) restores your chakra and strengthens your abilities, and thus was the reason Kakashi was able to keep fighting.

Jiraiya by himself is a tough enough match up for Kakashi. Add in him summoning someone like Bunta or even Ken, and it's going to require Kakashi to have to use up even more of his chakra, via either using a shadow clone to use raiden to cut the summons in half, or using raiton to enhance the cutting abilities of his kunai and hope to strike Bunta/Ken/whoever enough or in the right spots to put them down, and even in these scenarios Bunta and Ken can obviously dodge or block.

Jiraiya is going to keep Kakashi on the defensive here. It's just an overall terrible matchup for Kakashi(on top of the fact that SM Jiraiya is just an all-around beast) and his only option in getting out of this fight alive is via the use of kamui, and again, given his own admittance of inferiority to Jiraiya, it's a possibility he resorts to that sooner than later, especially once he sees Jiraiya's SM abilities.

Jiraiya handles Hebi easily then, and Sakon/Ukon with Kidomaru is child's play for Jiraiya. They, along with the other two members of the sound 4 resorted to using their cursed seal abilities just to fight special jounin, and Kidomaru was scared of having to fight part 1 Kakashi when they went to abduct Sasuke.
 

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Not underestimating Kakashi at all, but Kakashi is not made to fight someone like Jiraiya. People make note of his war-arc stamina feats, which are undoubtedly impressive compared to what he used to do, but before using raiden, he was . We weren't notified of it at the time, but it was confirmed later, being inside the kyuubi cloak(or Naruto giving you one) restores your chakra and strengthens your abilities, and thus was the reason Kakashi was able to keep fighting.

Jiraiya by himself is a tough enough match up for Kakashi. Add in him summoning someone like Bunta or even Ken, and it's going to require Kakashi to have to use up even more of his chakra, via either using a shadow clone to use raiden to cut the summons in half, or using raiton to enhance the cutting abilities of his kunai and hope to strike Bunta/Ken/whoever enough or in the right spots to put them down, and even in these scenarios Bunta and Ken can obviously dodge or block.

Jiraiya is going to keep Kakashi on the defensive here. It's just an overall terrible matchup for Kakashi(on top of the fact that SM Jiraiya is just an all-around beast) and his only option in getting out of this fight alive is via the use of kamui, and again, given his own admittance of inferiority to Jiraiya, it's a possibility he resorts to that sooner than later, especially once he sees Jiraiya's SM abilities.

Jiraiya handles Hebi easily then, and Sakon/Ukon with Kidomaru is child's play for Jiraiya. They, along with the other two members of the sound 4 resorted to using their cursed seal abilities just to fight special jounin, and Kidomaru was scared of having to fight part 1 Kakashi when they went to abduct Sasuke.
- Kakashi counters summons by sharingan genjutsu or copying Yomi Numa if Jiraiya tries using it.
- A clone feint or two is all Kakashi needs to hide, position himself at a different angle, and using Kamui.
 

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- Kakashi counters summons by sharingan genjutsu or copying Yomi Numa if Jiraiya tries using it.
- A clone feint or two is all Kakashi needs to hide, position himself at a different angle, and using Kamui.
Jiraiya informs his summons of what they're fighting. He's going to use measures to avoid the sharingan genjutsu(ala Gai, using the method of watching the feet instead of eyes). Kakashi would have to go out of his way to make eye contact with the summons, which opens up the ability of an attack by Jiraiya.

And yes, kamui would end this in Kakashi's favor. But it's never been within his character to resort straight to kamui. If you want to make the argument that he uses it due to realizing he's outmatched by Jiraiya, then sure I guess.
 

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- SM Jiraiya vs. Tsunade and Sakura (can't use more than 10% of Katsuyu)
Mid diff for Jiraiya.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Kakuzu and Hidan
Mid diff for Jiraiya.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Hebi
Mid diff for Jiraiya.

- SM Jiraiya vs. 6th Gate Guy and Lee (Lee has Asakujaku)
Gai and Lee mid-high diff.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Orochimaru w/ 2 mid level Edos
Jiraiya mid-high diffs.

- SM Jiraiya vs. MS Kakashi
Kakashi mid-high diff.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Tobirama Senju w/ 2 fodder Edo
Tobirama low-mid diff.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Gengetsu Hōzuki
Jiraiya mid diff if his Detection Barrier works on the clam, if not, then Gengetsu wins mid diff.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Third Raikage
Raikage mid-high diff.

- SM Jiraiya vs. Kisame
Jiraiya high diff.

- SM Jiraiya vs. MS Tobi w/ Izanagi
Obito low-mid diff.
 

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SM Jiraiya is just a bad match-up for Kisame. I'm fairly positive Gengetsu Hozuki is the Trollkage... Anyways, how does the 3rd Raikage beat SM Jiraiya?
Don't see it happening either way, Kisame's just too powerful for Jiraiya. And my bad, Gengetsu Hozuki is indeed the Trollkage. And 3rd wins by simply blitzing through any jutsu (Katon, summon, Goemon) Jiraiya uses and then stabbing him. Jiraiya is not running from the 3rd Raikage, and he's definitely not damaging him with any jutsu bar Genjutsu (which he won't have enough time to prep, and can be blown away with shockwaves similarly to how Temari blew away Tayuya's genjutsu).
 
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