SM Hashirama vs Edo Madara and Rinnegan Obito
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If the Duo can hold off Hashirama long enough for the Gedo Mazo to transform into the Juubi then they win pretty easily if not they still have there chances.
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Bad start for Hashirama. There is no need for an alive Hashirama to start off in SM against these 2. He is only going to be wasting SM chakra. In fact, he wouldn't do that in the manga as well. As it makes no bloody sense.
Alive Hashirama easily overpowers EMS Madara with his SM, and Rinnegan Obito besides his Kamui, can't provide any challenge.
Alive Hashirama easily overpowers EMS Madara with his SM, and Rinnegan Obito besides his Kamui, can't provide any challenge.
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Hashirama eats them alive in Scenario 1 once the Buddha comes out, because god knows he will need it. SS plows through their offense and flattens Madara's Susanoo along with the Bijuu. Not to mention Myojinmon shuts them down pretty easily. Defeating Obito is child's play since he'll only have the Mazo as protection due to Kamui's restriction.
Probably loses S2 though.
Probably loses S2 though.
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Just realized technically, Madara can control Obito so he can revive him then he can take Obito's Rinnegan and Limbo GG.
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Coulda sworn that SM Hashirama w/o Shinsuusenju stalemated with Edo Madara.
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That didnt even harm ems madara when he was alive. In fact madara ran head on into it, which he didnt have to do. Madara didnt drop any meteors or use CT. Not to mention he was unable to use limbo or just didnt use it.
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Madara didn't get hit head on by it though, its fists had been mostly destroyed already, and Hashirama hadn't made up his mind
to kill Madara yet either so it's possible he didn't try smacking Madara down on purpose.
I don't know about Edo Madara's CT strength, but the meteors he dropped down have already been shown to be smaller than
his PS dramatically, and one of the meteors couldn't even kill Ohnoki despite Ohnoki getting hit directly. Shisuusenjuu, which
is larger and stronger than PS and can pick up Kurama should be able to catch those meteors no problem. And any calculations
about its supposed power doesn't work because we have already seen how limited the power of those meteors were as Kishi
clearly doesn't use real world physics to judge how powerful certain attacks are.
That being said, SM Hashirama is also stronger than the Edo Hashirama that Madara stalemated. Since Obito doesn't have Kamui,
he's useless besides the bijuu he uses. Thus, Hashiarma ultimately very high diffs the duo. Probably going to be almost if not
as exhausted as he was in VOTE but still pulling out victorious.
He loses Scenario 2 though. Obito constantly messing him up and screwing with him will prevent him from properly
fighting back against Edo Madara also hitting hard and thus he'll eventually get captured by Kamui or smacked down
by PS.
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Madara cloaks one of Obito Bijuu and stalemate Hashirama. Once there both weeknd Obito Bijuu rapes Hashirama or Gedo Mazo smash the man.
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:lol. Yes, they didn't harm Madara when he had Kyuubi. Let's not use bad logic as if I won't call you out on it. PS is his strongest tech as an Edo, which is why he didn't bother with the rest.
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Because those bijuu are comparable to full Kurama add the fact they cannot shoot 15 tbbs at a time.
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L0l @ Kurama shooting 15 tbb's at once. How could they be at once when there was a Perfect Susanoo blade in all of them unless your think Madara can magically make them appear inside the tbb's. L0l it's already been established that full Kurama Bijuudama is on the same level as Obito's Bijuu Bijuudama. Also once the battle starts Obito warps himself and Madara far away from Hashirama. Then uses one of his Bijuu Madara then proceeds to coat it then they bombard Hashirama from a distance.
SS isn't going to be able to get close with this strategy thus Hashirama is murked plain and simple. Or Obito could use Rinne-Tensei to bring Madara back to life Madara then takes his Rinnegan and one shot Hashirama via Limbo. Obito still lives via Izanagi he just will be blind.
SS isn't going to be able to get close with this strategy thus Hashirama is murked plain and simple. Or Obito could use Rinne-Tensei to bring Madara back to life Madara then takes his Rinnegan and one shot Hashirama via Limbo. Obito still lives via Izanagi he just will be blind.
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So basically your denying Canon keep it up dumbass.
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Never been established just you jumping to dumbass assumptions. Its a Fact Full Kurama shits on any Bijuu in every area now lets compare the bijuu damas aswell. Bijuu damas that we're smacked away by Naruto
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add the fact all mountains in Narutoverse are not the same size then add the fact that Bijuu dama made a creator the big enough to fit the surrounding mountains in it shits on what those bijuu did.Hashirama uses mayfly to close the distance easily while a clone operates the gates making them fall down on any bijuu trying to transform. Once Hashirama is close enough SS pops up then he shits on every last one of them putting bijuu asleep destroying Perfect susanoo and all.
Already explained why the distance is closed easily. Hashirama is not murked at all Madara swords we're as deadly as they were because the speed to bijuu damas moving at that speed hit them. Any Madara that is not edo Madara is nonsense because thread is Edo Madara not rinnegan Madara so your point is moot and if this was 1 rinnegan Madara 20000 Punches shits on him and limbo so he would die aswell.