SM Hashirama and BSM Naruto vs EMS Madara and BM Minato

[Amaterasu]

Team 2 wins...

Team two wins.

Team two wins

You fo' real ?

 

[KidGamer65]

why do you think Hashirama can break through their fused avatars?
and also i don't want to make another thread: if Naruto and Minato switch teams who do you think would win?

Their Avatars aren't fused, one is simply covering the other. Madara's PS can't take Chojo Kebutsu before any boosts, give them the same boost, and the result stays the same.

Hmm...Naruto's team would probably win.

 

[ARGUS]

Naruto and hashirama win mid diff

 

[KingHashirama]

I'll agree that the BM avatar is inferior to Madara's PS but I highly doubt that is true when it comes to BSM which multiplies the preexisting power of the original entity. BSM Naruto has far superior fire power to Madara and comparable if not superior durability.

How so? How does he have superior fire power? Madara's legged Susannoo normal, can replicat BM Naruto's feats. Why wouldn't the PS, that destroys multiple mountains with 1 slash be able to do the same?

BM Naruto = Sasuke with legged Susanoo
BSM = Perfect Susanoo

And this is not counting Madara's capability to do mountain sized fire jutsus and so on. I fail to see how BSM Naruto has more fire power than an EMS user, who has been fighting his entire life. Naruto's fire power = TBB and Rasengan.

It can tank the TBB, or probably slash them or something.

 

[Conspirator.]

Team 1 wins it.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Team 1 Has Superior Members & They Win.

 

[Izanamı.]

Their Avatars aren't fused, one is simply covering the other. Madara's PS can't take Chojo Kebutsu before any boosts, give them the same boost, and the result stays the same.

but how did they break Nunoboko sword if they weren't boosting each other?

Hmm...Naruto's team would probably win.

Would SM make that much big of a difference?

 

[Amaterasu]

Would SM make that much big of a difference?

Shinsuusenju ?

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Team one is overall stronger, but a teleporting PS x Kurama avatar fusion could very well tip the scales.​

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[KidGamer65]

but how did they break Nunoboko sword if they weren't boosting each other?



Would SM make that much big of a difference?

That's because both their avatars were chakra, and Senjutsu chakra is in Narutos avatar. Doesn't mean they are fused

And yes, it does make a large difference.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

That's because both their avatars were chakra, and Senjutsu chakra is in Narutos avatar. Doesn't mean they are fused

And yes, it does make a large difference.

If they weren't fused then Naruto having Senjutsu wouldn't matter :|

Then there's the fact it was Sasuke's sword, which had a layer of Susano'O between it and Naruto's avatar.​

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[KidGamer65]

If they weren't fused then Naruto having Senjutsu wouldn't matter :|

Then there's the fact it was Sasuke's sword, which had a layer of Susano'O between it and Naruto's avatar.​

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Yeah, you have a point lol.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Yeah, you have a point lol.

Its funny because you were the one that originally convinced me they fused Lol​

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[KingHashirama]

but how did they break Nunoboko sword if they weren't boosting each other?



Would SM make that much big of a difference?

Werent you or someone else suggested... that kurama wasnt powering up madara when they fused.??

 

[Great Master Minato]

Werent you or someone else suggested... that kurama wasnt powering up madara when they fused.??

Kurama Avatar Is Pure Chakra While Kyuubi's Body Is Not (It Has Flesh & etc)...I Think Two Entities Which Formed By Pure Chakra (Kurama Avatar & Iso Susanoo) Can Fuse With Each Other But Kyuubi's Flesh & Iso Susanoo Can't Get Fused...Susanoo Will Just Wrap Around The Actual Bijuu Like An Armor.

 

[KidGamer65]

Its funny because you were the one that originally convinced me they fused Lol​

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Lol swear? I don't remember.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Lol swear? I don't remember.

Yep, back in our convo about Sasuke's PS iirc.​

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[KingHashirama]

Kurama Avatar Is Pure Chakra While Kyuubi's Body Is Not (It Has Flesh & etc)...I Think Two Entities Which Formed By Pure Chakra (Kurama Avatar & Iso Susanoo) Can Fuse With Each Other But Kyuubi's Flesh & Iso Susanoo Can't Get Fused...Susanoo Will Just Wrap Around The Actual Bijuu Like An Armor.

Then there was no point in fusing, Madara only claimed himself to be superior when he fused the PS+ Kurama together.. meaning there was a power boost .The whole point of the fusion was to fuse their chakras. Thats why it was stated to be similar to what Madara created.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Then there was no point in fusing, Madara only claimed himself to be superior when he fused the PS+ Kurama together.. meaning there was a power boost .The whole point of the fusion was to fuse their chakras. Thats why it was stated to be similar to what Madara created.

Well PS+Kurama Is Superior To PS Alone (Which Is EMS Madara's Greatest Power) In Offence & Defense...Madara Got More Firepower & Durability & He Could Combine His Attacks With Kurama's But I Don't Know If Their Chakra Was Fused Aswell Or Not :hmm:

 

[GLUU]

Naruto and Hashirama win
boosted hashirama and boosted shinsuusenju as well as narutos senjutsu avatar having the firepower superior to Iso susanoo,
chojo kobetsu lands and obliterates susanoo and from that point on minatos bijuudama are slapped back like tennis balls, which backfires his offense. He isnt tanking chojo kobetsu either, and his avatar gets overwhelmed by narutos offense as well