SM can get you out of Genjutsu?

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People just love fapping Nardo and SM. SM does not link you with someone else's conciousness and does therefore not give you "immunity" against genjutsu. There's no one there to snap you out of it like Hachibi did it with B for example. That's why even Kabuto didn't want to rely on his eyes. He was afraid of being caught in a genjutsu.

Allow me to prove genjutsu fappers wrong.

Itachi implied if you're strong enough you can break a genjutsu

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The mention of "still weak" is just another word for not strong enough, this was a young Naruto his chakra wasn't developed enough to counter Itachi's finger genjutsu.

It's been repeatedly proven that genjutsu can be broken with "Kai" release.

Jiraiya explains how to break out of genjutsu, he specifically says "use more power"

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If you can release your chakra like Tobirama and Hashi did then you don't even need to use NE or bijuu chakra to break genjutsu. By absorbing NE you're essentially giving yourself more power and more chance to break free
 
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Kabuto Vs Uchiha Bro's says nope
Also it was stated in DB 3 Sasuke broke Itachi's Tsukiyomi by will power and it did not mention anything about curse seal/senjutsu as far as i remember
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Lord Itachi rustled Naruto fans so bad they're resorting fan-fictions to ease their jimmies.

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You're not even funny. Get better at telling jokes or stop writing stuff like that all the time.

He is troll wut do you expect
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Kabuto Vs Uchiha Bro's says nope
Also it was stated in DB 3 Sasuke broke Itachi's Tsukiyomi by will power and it did not mention anything about curse seal/senjutsu as far as i remember

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Databook sure is important. But manga always is more important.

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Lord Itachi let Sasuke break it, he was trying to lose without making Sasuke suspicious.
 

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Databook sure is important. But manga always is more important.

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Lord Itachi let Sasuke break it, he was trying to lose without making Sasuke suspicious.

Okay
don't really care about it was just debunking fanfics about senjutsu
 

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Izanami was called a Genjutsu so many times.

It's cast via recording through the eyes to create a loop. It isn't a genjutu as it isn't cast via eyes. It is cast via the senses:

The eyes are simply used to create the loop - a recording of one loop A and Loop B:

Genjutsu shouldn't work on Kabuto: - His eyes were blocked -

Itachi merely called it an eye Technique:

The term Genjutsu here, doesn't mean the technique Genjutsu, but the 'Illusion / Genjutsu' created via Izanami.

It is a genjutsu which affects the target through physical sensations shared between them and the user, instead of affecting the chakra steams of the opponent to perform the illusion.

It isn't Genjutsu, man. Look above.
 

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I hate to beat this thread over but Jiraya himself said genjutsu wasn't a good strength of his. His student would naturally follow suit.
 

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It's cast via recording through the eyes to create a loop. It isn't a genjutu as it isn't cast via eyes. It is cast via the senses:

The eyes are simply used to create the loop - a recording of one loop A and Loop B:

Genjutsu shouldn't work on Kabuto: - His eyes were blocked -

Itachi merely called it an eye Technique:

The term Genjutsu here, doesn't mean the technique Genjutsu, but the 'Illusion / Genjutsu' created via Izanami.



It isn't Genjutsu, man. Look above.

1. You really think that if it wasn't done with the eyes that means it isn't Genjutsu?

2. ¨It's not Genjutsu, it's Genjutsu.¨ Yeah, no, stop talking.

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The technique creates illusions and takes place in the mind. It's a Genjutsu.
 

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It doesn't, the whole point of breaking genjutsu is someone else disrupting the chakra that's causing the genjutsu. SM is not sentient to break the genjutsu like another person or bijuu.
 

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1. You really think that if it wasn't done with the eyes that means it isn't Genjutsu?

2. ¨It's not Genjutsu, it's Genjutsu.¨ Yeah, no, stop talking.

3. The technique creates illusions and takes place in the mind. It's a Genjutsu.

The manga terms Genjutsu as an illusion as well. Not sure why you didn't get what I stated. I am talking about eye based Genjutsus here, which is why I responded to his post. Which obviously, it isn't. Nor does it follow any eye-based illusion casting methods or anything else.

Let me recheck the databook four translation.

P.s: The only one I could find: - Yup, it classifies it as separate from the typical Genjutsus that are eye-based. But does classify it in the Illusion / Genjutsu category.
 
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I have said it before in Lesula thread.

SM or absorbing Natural energy will not disrupt your chakra to cancel genjutsu
 

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It's cast via recording through the eyes to create a loop. It isn't a genjutu as it isn't cast via eyes. It is cast via the senses:

The eyes are simply used to create the loop - a recording of one loop A and Loop B:

Genjutsu shouldn't work on Kabuto: - His eyes were blocked -

Itachi merely called it an eye Technique:

The term Genjutsu here, doesn't mean the technique Genjutsu, but the 'Illusion / Genjutsu' created via Izanami.



It isn't Genjutsu, man. Look above.

Read wiki or sth. You talk nonsense.
 

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Read wiki or sth. You talk nonsense.

Dude, you called it a Doujutsu:

Izanami isn't regular genjutsu. It's the ultimate dojutsu, kiddo.

An absurd statement straight out of Wikipedia, that is not even backed by one single line from the manga. Itachi outright states that it isn't an 'Eye Technique' other than the Doujutsu - using the eye - to record the loops. Which is why I even created the distinction between regular Uchiha Genjutsus (That are almost always Doujutsus) and Illusions / Genjutsus that lie beyond Doujutus. An example would be Ephemeral. In DB 4 Translation, it isn't classified as a Doujutsu. Only Kinjutsu and Genjutsu / Illusion.

Wiki is updated by fans. Don't talk nonsense. You ended up confusing me. This is what the 4th Databook Translation states:

Izanami

Izanami a unique Kinjutsu, Genjutsu, to invoke it results in the loss of an eye

One scene of the opponents own action is stored by the users Dojutsu, than an identical scene for a moment must be recreated. The opponent is imprisoned infinitely in the time rip world (?) between the first and second scene that were stored. To escape the Genjutsu one must accept their original fate/destiny, reforming someones conduct will allow them to escape.

 
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