SM/BSM Naruto best Taijutsu..?

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You know SM runs out in 5minutes no matter how much chakra you have so your point is irrelevant, and also madara blitzed sm naruto while 3t sasuke put madara on the defensive end.

Naruto's SM has improved since then, I'd be disappointed if it didn't last longer than 5 min now.
 

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The only advantage BSM Naruto has in taijutsu against an EMS Sasuke is Frog Kumite,they are equals in reflexes,speed etc as proved in the Juubito fight.
 

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Naruto's SM has improved since then, I'd be disappointed if it didn't last longer than 5 min now.

Yea I underestimated it a bit but still it runs in munites for now so even if you have too much chakra sm would eventually runs out
 

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The only advantage BSM Naruto has in taijutsu against an EMS Sasuke is Frog Kumite,they are equals in reflexes,speed etc as proved in the Juubito fight.


There reflexes are equal, but not physcial speed. Remember, they never used their bodies to fight Juubito, only Kurama mode and susanoo.
 

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Lawd Gai is the God of Taijutsu
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all types of it.
 

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BSM's speed is > FTG.
Lol
lol
get mad fanboys.

KCM = FTG < BM < BSM

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Since when the hell could you move faster than instantaneous movement? The stupidity is very very real.

What's funny is that you tell the fanboys to get mad even though you are the one making fanboy level posts.

Exactly this

And this clown is going to agree. Lol
 
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Yea I underestimated it a bit but still it runs in munites for now so even if you have too much chakra sm would eventually runs out

The troll is obvious.

Naruto = able to fuse with ma and pa for that infinite SM ;)! , I Wonder if he can summon them.

BSM Naruto with MA&PA and Kurama gathering chakra + Frog kata + Sound genjutsu while he's fighting + Negative sensings(BM) + SM sensings + Shadow clones = Too Bad-ass in my eyes ;)
 

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I don't get why Sasuke has to get brought up in every Naruto thread. I can't think of anyone better than BSM Naruto in CQC.
 

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Since when the hell could you move faster than instantaneous movement? The stupidity is very very real.

What's funny is that you tell the fanboys to get mad even though you are the one making fanboy level posts.



And this clown is going to agree. Lol

I've still got your idiocy quoted, lmfao.

You don't "Move faster than instantaneous movement", nor did I say he could, you just assumed that because you're too thick to realize that what I meant was -

BSM Naruto can move AT instantaneous speeds ( as shown vs Raikage ), but his SM/BM modes allow him to further track/sense movements, allowing him to use his godly speed too a more full effect.
< does not mean "Faster than", remember that.
 

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SM Sensing > EMS for Taijutsu, being able to track movements is good, but Naruto can FEEL them even if he can't see them, and his reaction time is superb.
BM/KCM Chakra arms ( If you feel like counting this as Taijutsu ) are huge, can be any number up to the 9 we've seen and crush boulders with EASE.

The sheer speed Naruto gains in KCM/BM is hilarious, being compared to Minato and surpassing the Raikages.
Frog kumite Op.
Negative intention sensing OP.
Sage energy enhanced strike range OP.

I can easily see Naruto trouncing Sasuke in a Taijutsu fight, what with his Chakra arms ect, Sasuke's sharingan is almost useless against Frog kumite, since he can see chakra, but no-one can see/sense Nature energy untill they have done SM training.

Not sure what he'd do against gated Shinobi like Guy/lee, but his sensory abilities are probably enough to dodge/counter 1-7 gates, since SM Kabuto > Susano'o arrow. 8th gate hasn't been shown but is probably OP'd as hell.

Well even with gate 7, Gai didn't speed blitz Kisame but chose to keep his distance. A was still deemed the fastest and Tsunade who knows what Gai is capable of seems to believe A was the fastest ninja. As for the 8th gate, we do not know his speed but it might be on A's v2 Lightning armor level.

Also Naruto's BSM was never at full power, many people overlook this fact. Yang Kurama was low on chakra and borrowed some from Yin Kurama then they gave chakra that's comparable to Hashirama's to the Alliance before Naruto went BSM for the first time. Shortly after that the God tree absorbed all his chakra. Minato had most of his chakra as well when he said he couldn't FTG but Yin Kurama gave the chakra he had left to Naruto. Also Naruto wasn't using his full speed in BSM at all due to lack of control over it.

1.Ems= BSM in sensing or even better since it see in slow motion while bsm is just like a warning sense
2. Sasuke has the better skills in taijutsu than naruto
3.Jubbito speed>BSM naruto speed and sauke was able to keep up and even make a hit
4.The susanoo arrow sasuke used against kabuto was much smaller than the one against danzo, if it was that big I doubt kabuto could have dodged that easily

1) SM allows Naruto to sense chakra, he pin point the chakra sources, this is how he could sense everything that was happening . He also did this before he fought Pein, it didn't show it like that scan but he knew he couldn't sense Kakashi's chakra and asked if Kakashi was on a mission . He also used it to pin point the 3rd Raikage's attack to time when he should move, it's not just like a warning or else he wouldn't be able to use it against someone faster than him . KM negative sensing also pin points, this is how Naruto use it to pin point the fakes and can point them out. Combine them and you'll have a great sensor, difference is that Naruto was still new to BSM, only been in it two times and that's the first time he shown to use his sensory ability.

2) Naruto have improved his skills in taijutsu after learning frog kurmite, it's not only about using natural energy, it's an actual style that can be incorporated in his basic skills. In base he was holding off Deva in taijutsu for a short time and he took on omoi and Karui, who are Bee's students, with just hand to hand combat while they were using kenjutsu , and .

3) Naruto wasn't going at full speed, he lack control over it. He only used his full speed a few times. In KM he did on Kisame and A. BM on the tbbs and while fighting Obito and Madara. None in BSM and he was about halve power both times he went BSM.

4) Even if the arrow was bigger, the smaller one only hit the snake's tail which have Suigetsu's water body ability so would change nothing.

The only advantage BSM Naruto has in taijutsu against an EMS Sasuke is Frog Kumite,they are equals in reflexes,speed etc as proved in the Juubito fight.

BSM wasn't at full power, Yang Kurama was low on chakra which made Naruto lose KM while trying to go BM. Then Yin Kurama gave Yang Kurama chakra then Naruto and Minato gave chakra that compares to Hashirama's chakra volume to the alliance. Shortly after that Naruto's chakra got absorbed by the God tree and most of Minato's chakra was absorbed. Yin Kurama then gave the chakra he had left to Naruto so no Naruto wasn't at full power. Plus Naruto never used his full speed in BMS, he did 2x in KM and 2x in BM and that's all.

Yea I underestimated it a bit but still it runs in munites for now so even if you have too much chakra sm would eventually runs out

Well Kurama was his friend so he can just fuse with Ma and Pa toads and keep BSM indefinitely, Naruto was in SM for at least 10 min if not more when he went BSM the second time and was fighting Juubito with Sasuke.
 

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I agree, honestly if you look at the fact that no one has ever bested BM Nardo without some sort of jutsu it shouldn't be hard to figure out. BSM poops on EMS because it doesn't have to see you to react, EMS can only respond to what is in it's sight..
 

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I've still got your idiocy quoted, lmfao.

lol, the only idiot is the one who thinks Rock Lee is faster than Madara.

You don't "Move faster than instantaneous movement", nor did I say he could, you just assumed that because you're too thick to realize that what I meant was

BSM Naruto can move AT instantaneous speeds ( as shown vs Raikage ), but his SM/BM modes allow him to further track/sense movements, allowing him to use his godly speed too a more full effect.
< does not mean "Faster than", remember that.

Bold is obviously false, Naruto has never moved at instantaneous speeds, this is probably the worst speed wank I've ever seen for Naruto on this whole entire site.
 

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lol, the only idiot is the one who thinks Rock Lee is faster than Madara.



Bold is obviously false, Naruto has never moved at instantaneous speeds, this is probably the worst speed wank I've ever seen for Naruto on this whole entire site.

Gates lee?
 

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lol, the only idiot is the one who thinks Rock Lee is faster than Madara.



Bold is obviously false, Naruto has never moved at instantaneous speeds, this is probably the worst speed wank I've ever seen for Naruto on this whole entire site.

He did have a few great speed feats, 2 of which were with kcm, and one was with bm

Naruto struck Kisame with shunshin, and dodged Ay's fastest punch. The BM feath pretty much goes without saying but here's the scan.

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Even Gai was impressed by his speed and Kakashi thought he was Minato.

Naruto has some of the best speed feats in the manga, however his speed is dependant on plot, more so than anyone else.
 

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BSM's speed is > FTG.
Lol
lol
get mad fanboys.

KCM = FTG < BM < BSM
FTG>Anything.

FTG is instant, KCM/BM/BSM is just extremely fast

You could roughly say FTG=KCM/BM/BSM, it depends on the distance.
The farther the distance it is, it will eventually be FTG>

And eventhough Naruto is extremely fast, sadly we have only really speed his speed feats. a few times.

Against 4th Raikage, against 3rd Raikage, against Juubito and against the 6 TBBs, for the rest we actually haven't seen considerable speed feats.

I still believe BSM Naruto could outclass anyone in taijutsu, except for possibly Guy, Lee and Kabuto.

Madara would probably lose if he decided to fight with chakra arms, but considering Madara has the rinnegan he can also just use mechanical arms, and if i assume that than Madara fights on equal terms, and has a strong chance of winning.

We haven't seen Juubito fighting w/Taijutsu but assuming he can he would probably beat BSM Naruto, because we saw his reaction feats, and as we all know Juubito sensing>Any sensing.
 

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He did have a few great speed feats, 2 of which were with kcm, and one was with bm

Naruto struck Kisame with shunshin, and dodged Ay's fastest punch. The BM feath pretty much goes without saying but here's the scan.

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Even Gai was impressed by his speed and Kakashi thought he was Minato.

Naruto has some of the best speed feats in the manga, however his speed is dependant on plot, more so than anyone else.

I know his speed feats and I know that they are great, but they aren't instant was my point.
 

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This is how I see CQC going for anyone fighting a BSM Naruto:

This:
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Combined with this:
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And this:
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And all of that is enhanced by a better Sage Mode and BM mode.
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If you're not being speed blitzed, you're being thrown around by the force of his punches.
 
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