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This thread will be set up in four portions in which various elements of involving SSM possibilities will be discussed.
The four portions are:
Reasons Slug Sage Mode May Exist
Negation of Slug Sage Mode
Refutation of Negation
Possible Abilities of a Slug Sage
Reasons Slug Sage Mode May Exist
The first and most prominent reason to believe Slug Sage Mode may exist is because Katsuyu is from the Shikkotsurin (The Humid Bone Forest)
The Humid Bone Forest is in turn as famous as Mount Myoboku and the Ryuchi Caves
Places that are known for being home to sage animals, namely toads and snakes.
And Minato called the Frog, Snake, and Slug the deadlock summons implying they are equal in stature and perhaps all are sage summons.
In addition both Jiraiya and Orochimaru have imperfect Sage Modes.
Given that both Jiraiya and Orochimaru are both sages it stands to reason that Pain wasn't talking about sage mode being exclusive to Jiraiya.
Thus, it stands to reason that he was referring to Sage Mode being an ability of the sannin and each sannin having a respective sage mode.
Tsunade is heading back to the battlefield and it's fairly obvious she's going to have some importance to the plot. Why?
1. Her Grandfather and Granduncle are present and are in need of a reunion
2. Orochimaru and Hiruzen members of her team are both very relevant to the story atm
3. The Hokages teaming up is going to be a relevant theme and to distinguish herself between Kage level and hokage level will be crucial
Sakura is now taking the role of healer and therefore it's not necessary for Tsunade to sit on the side line and heal. As opposed to the Gokage vs. Madara battle in which her primary duty was healer. She also refilled the chakras of Oonoki and Gaara and Mei, and Oonoki once more. Tasks she could not have completed should she have had sage mode as the other Kage would have turned to stone from receiving sage chakra. I posit then she cannot heal while in sage mode, or that she can only heal other sages. Beyond this while Tsunade is the more talented Kunoichi, Sakura currently has a KM cloak that should help in the healing making it easier.
Tsunade was also heralded as the Slug Princess and the Queen of Slugs and Elixirs
Negation of Slug Sage Mode
There are obviously counter arguments to be posed as to why people believe that a Slug Sage Mode doesn't exist.
1.Some may Argue that Tsunade and Sakura have only summoned Katsuyu in the cannon
2. Some say Sakura just received the Byakugou seal, increased strength, and the ability to summon Katsuyu, and Tsunade just displayed Byakugou therefore we shouldn't expect power-ups from them any time soon.
3. People argue that Tsunade didn't use it against Pain or Madara and because she should have gone all out especially against Madara it's foolish to even think she has any more tricks up her sleeve
4. Some say even if such a thing would exist it wouldn't be enough to be relevant against Obito, Madara, or the Shinju
5. I haven't heard this one, but Sakura currently has a KM cloak and Kurama may try to interfere with Sage Mode
6. Tsunade said she's giving it her all. Therefore, how could she have any thing else.
Refutation of Negation
1. Given the fact that Katsuyu was summoned in two different places at once, it would seem she's a part of a larger whole.
2. It's unlikely that Sakura will get another power up so soon beyond perhaps creation rebirth/ Byakugou. However, for Tsunade Byakugou was only an extension of Creation Rebirth, a technique that could already regenerate organs and limbs, Byakugou just made it continuous and something Tsunade doesn't have to think about to do once it's activated. So it wasn't that big of a power-up for her so there is no reason to rule out another power-up just yet.
3. Against Pain, Tsunade didn't use the Byakugou. And she couldn't even fight in Konoha without causing major destruction. Against Madara she didn't use Katsuyu, does that mean she doesn't have Katsuyu?
4. Considering Tsunade and Sakura have an AoE (Area of Effect) of
5. At this point Kurama is more interested in not being Madara's puppet than stopping the use of other powers.
6. She was giving her all yet there was no usage of her summon, BPD, any chakra based attacks, or mass destruction of the environment. This indicates to me that she did not in fact use all that was at her disposal against Madara. Perhaps because she was a healer first, or because she chooses what ability is right for X scenario.
Possible Abilities for a Slug Sage
Slug Acid: Reasoning: Katsuyu spits acid and real slugs regurgitate digestive acid as a defense mechanism. Additional the six tails used an acid/ alkaline coating.
Slug Slime: Reasoning: One of the Trademark abilities of slugs is there slime. It often prevents them from getting cut and makes them harder to grip while also serving various other functions such as some slimes helping them stick to places. The purpose would probably use it as a glue like substance or as a protective coating.
Slug Sensing: A staple of sage mode in sensing, and slugs "sense" light and smell through their antennae. Katsuyu seems to sense chakra.
Poison: Tsunade, Shizune, and Sakura all seem to have an affinity to poisons and elixirs to the point that Tsunade is known as the Queen of Elixirs, and Jiraiya commented on her prowess with poison. And as Shizune's teacher it stands to reason that she taught Shizune how to create and cure poisons. Additionally, there is a species of poisonous sea slug
Heightened Strength: Standard Sage Mode Ability fits with Tsunade/ Sakura's Strength Theme
Heightened Speed/ Reflexes: Standard Sage Mode Ability
Division: Slugs can divide to a degree, that is they can regrow certain body parts that are lost. Tsunade may already have this ability via Byakugou, so as Sage Mode improves the efficiency of jutsu Byakugou may be better in Sage Mode
Shell Formations: Many species of slugs have vestigial or small shells still attached to them or underneath their tissue. If this ability was given to users of sage mode then they could use the protective shield to ward off certain attacks that are too powerful to tank.
The four portions are:
Reasons Slug Sage Mode May Exist
Negation of Slug Sage Mode
Refutation of Negation
Possible Abilities of a Slug Sage
Reasons Slug Sage Mode May Exist
The first and most prominent reason to believe Slug Sage Mode may exist is because Katsuyu is from the Shikkotsurin (The Humid Bone Forest)
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And Minato called the Frog, Snake, and Slug the deadlock summons implying they are equal in stature and perhaps all are sage summons.
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Tsunade is heading back to the battlefield and it's fairly obvious she's going to have some importance to the plot. Why?
1. Her Grandfather and Granduncle are present and are in need of a reunion
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Tsunade was also heralded as the Slug Princess and the Queen of Slugs and Elixirs
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Negation of Slug Sage Mode
There are obviously counter arguments to be posed as to why people believe that a Slug Sage Mode doesn't exist.
1.Some may Argue that Tsunade and Sakura have only summoned Katsuyu in the cannon
2. Some say Sakura just received the Byakugou seal, increased strength, and the ability to summon Katsuyu, and Tsunade just displayed Byakugou therefore we shouldn't expect power-ups from them any time soon.
3. People argue that Tsunade didn't use it against Pain or Madara and because she should have gone all out especially against Madara it's foolish to even think she has any more tricks up her sleeve
4. Some say even if such a thing would exist it wouldn't be enough to be relevant against Obito, Madara, or the Shinju
5. I haven't heard this one, but Sakura currently has a KM cloak and Kurama may try to interfere with Sage Mode
6. Tsunade said she's giving it her all. Therefore, how could she have any thing else.
Refutation of Negation
1. Given the fact that Katsuyu was summoned in two different places at once, it would seem she's a part of a larger whole.
2. It's unlikely that Sakura will get another power up so soon beyond perhaps creation rebirth/ Byakugou. However, for Tsunade Byakugou was only an extension of Creation Rebirth, a technique that could already regenerate organs and limbs, Byakugou just made it continuous and something Tsunade doesn't have to think about to do once it's activated. So it wasn't that big of a power-up for her so there is no reason to rule out another power-up just yet.
3. Against Pain, Tsunade didn't use the Byakugou. And she couldn't even fight in Konoha without causing major destruction. Against Madara she didn't use Katsuyu, does that mean she doesn't have Katsuyu?
4. Considering Tsunade and Sakura have an AoE (Area of Effect) of
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without sage mode, their AoEand general power would be increased significantly, plus any additional jutsu gained.5. At this point Kurama is more interested in not being Madara's puppet than stopping the use of other powers.
6. She was giving her all yet there was no usage of her summon, BPD, any chakra based attacks, or mass destruction of the environment. This indicates to me that she did not in fact use all that was at her disposal against Madara. Perhaps because she was a healer first, or because she chooses what ability is right for X scenario.
Possible Abilities for a Slug Sage
Slug Acid: Reasoning: Katsuyu spits acid and real slugs regurgitate digestive acid as a defense mechanism. Additional the six tails used an acid/ alkaline coating.
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Slug Slime: Reasoning: One of the Trademark abilities of slugs is there slime. It often prevents them from getting cut and makes them harder to grip while also serving various other functions such as some slimes helping them stick to places. The purpose would probably use it as a glue like substance or as a protective coating.
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Slug Sensing: A staple of sage mode in sensing, and slugs "sense" light and smell through their antennae. Katsuyu seems to sense chakra.
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Poison: Tsunade, Shizune, and Sakura all seem to have an affinity to poisons and elixirs to the point that Tsunade is known as the Queen of Elixirs, and Jiraiya commented on her prowess with poison. And as Shizune's teacher it stands to reason that she taught Shizune how to create and cure poisons. Additionally, there is a species of poisonous sea slug
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Heightened Strength: Standard Sage Mode Ability fits with Tsunade/ Sakura's Strength Theme
Heightened Speed/ Reflexes: Standard Sage Mode Ability
Division: Slugs can divide to a degree, that is they can regrow certain body parts that are lost. Tsunade may already have this ability via Byakugou, so as Sage Mode improves the efficiency of jutsu Byakugou may be better in Sage Mode
Shell Formations: Many species of slugs have vestigial or small shells still attached to them or underneath their tissue. If this ability was given to users of sage mode then they could use the protective shield to ward off certain attacks that are too powerful to tank.
So, I guess, we already know that Slug sage mode does exist. At least, I know that 
