[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

[Ansatsuken]

Saying Kyte and Toujo are scum buddies AFTER kyte flips scum would be a tinfoil theory if I think about it now.
i don't see why anyone would sacrifice 2 teammates back to back for town cred so yea I guess Toujo would very much be clear for a long time. He could still be a negative 3rd party so there's that.

I'll be logging off now and come back in a few hours.

Negative 3rd party still an anti town and more dangerous than Mafia.

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

What can I say. You seem neutral af everytime you play. xD
You will have my attention if we don't catch scum and you are still alive

Dude Scum always let me live . Perks of being a Fodder Mafia Player. Alice Perks.

 

[Kyte_]

XT, please. You're better than this with your 8 years of experience. Well, it's not like I didn't anticipate that some players would hold me accountable for countering Poison's lynch after she flipped scum, so let me make something clear - for the vote count analysis to be manipulated, intentionally or non-intentionally, to highlight a specific angle you want to accentuate just because it aligns with your reads, it won't happen under my watch.

Here is the factual presentation about the VCA regarding me: I've been a persistent and consistent advocate for lynching Touji, who's lynch was more reasonable in my eyes than Poison, by far. And my hands have almost gone sore from typing the arguments against him. I've also specified my clear reasons, that I still stand by, for not approving Poison's lynch thats best justification was her inactivity, and the fact that I was wrong about her is not alignment indicative, neither is the fact that Touji has backed it up. Well, let me elaborate:

We're talking about a situation where the scum party is caught between two undesirable alternatives where Poison and Touji were the main and lynching Touji. In a setting like this, what stops either of them to endorse the lynch of the other, and use him as a scapegoat to gain a righteous foothold and reach further into the game. I'm not speaking of simple Sure, he's been on Poison done it since the start of the game so it would be feasible for him to jump on your potential lynch wagon at his convenient time. In fact, either lynch would have benefited the survivor. Juan would have the upper hand because he's the main scum though.



Something like vote count analysis (VCA), for example, can be variously manipulated to highlight whatever a player may want to accentuate to their own ends, but with an air of purely factual presentation.


Let me make something very clear to X, for the vote count analysis to be manipulated so you'd highlight whatever might align with your whims and

I have some town leans, yes. I don't usually mention them until they become relevant in the lynch track. Ryu, for instance, and to a lesser extent, Ansa.

The connection I had made myself in the nick of time was a fairly simple one. But yes, I do see why that argument would be refuted. If your other contrary perceptions in my posts, don't hesitate to address them to me.

Just a side note: I was just reviewing my post when I got a notification that Tiger liked it. I think I got cut off in the middle of writing this one, some of the sentences aren't finished, and even the quotes are misplaced. I'll try to be more careful in the future, and preview my paragraphs instead of turbo typing and posting instantly.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Why I feel some conversations seemed like I'm talking with a kids

 

[Rej]

What kind of read is this?

-Looks like an amateur level read
-He kept majority of players in Null area. He avoided to provide read on many players for what reason? I think I know the reason.
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OK HERE,






Look at his reply here. Why he acting like that?

"And er, I haven't really had the motivation to do so yet."

^^^^
look at this statement, tell me what you all think about it? Toujo displaying the resistance/hesitation to read Poison.


"I should get to it tomorrow"

And than this statement,

As you all can see here, Toujo has said that but after doing an inspection I found nothing. There was no any read on Poison I can found from Toujo. Toujo has lied to XTMG, Toujo lied to us. He was avoiding to give us his read on Poison


AND BELOW IS THE PROVE,



Please focus at the bold part. The part that he talked about Poison. Look what he said there,

"Poison, but I haven't explicitly gone into that."

It tells that Toujo never really took Poison seriously. He never seriously reading Poison.
There was a huge time frame until that post that provides Toujo with lots of room and opportunity to read, sort, prod, and make a case against Poison. But I get this instead,

"Poison, but I haven't explicitly gone into that."

What?????

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So look, how unnatural was Toujo's DP1 progression towards his Poison vote.


@XTMG

Toujo has lied to you, Toujo gave your read on Poison a credit and he used your read for his vote on Poison, Toujo never had serious read on Poison, Toujo is pocketing you XTMG.

Tbh this sounds not bad. And you still priorize lynching Tou?

 

[Ansatsuken]

I'm going to get a rest. I will be back 4 hours before EoD.

I think I'm gonna test Toujo, for real.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Tbh this sounds not bad. And you still priorize lynching Tou?

My vote is on Toujo. Check the vote tally my man

 

[Rej]

IMO its not harmful since this is a role madness game but i want to hear Rej answer
@Rej what can you say about this Rejinald?

Ansa needs to play more games with me. Players like novas and drago like it when I am tinfoiling. It is a good tell. And Ansa doesnt realize that this game is different than the previous ones.

Also Ansa is never tinfoiling when it is good. Last setup 0 tinfoils even when the setup allowed limitless tinfoiling.

I think Ansa doesnt know whats bad tells and whats scum tells. Because he is too much focussed on how mafia is played on AB.

 

[Ansatsuken]

And Yes to the question.

 

[Rej]

Man town is splitt for sure.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Ansa needs to play more games with me. Players like novas and drago like it when I am tinfoiling. It is a good tell. And Ansa doesnt realize that this game is different than the previous ones.

Also Ansa is never tinfoiling when it is good. Last setup 0 tinfoils even when the setup allowed limitless tinfoiling.

I think Ansa doesnt know whats bad tells and whats scum tells. Because he is too much focussed on how mafia is played on AB.

Are you sure about that?

 

[Rej]

Are you sure about that?

Yes you used Town!Rej (AB) and compared using the term "never".
Like you were convinced that you knew how I play. on OJ a year ago I started every entrance into game with setup tinfoils.
In one game I was correct D1 and I got culted by a cultist.

 

[Rej]

Man so many people play with false narrative fucking stop it when you are town. For real now.

Tinfoil instead of producing false narrative.

 

[Kyte_]

Saying Kyte and Toujo are scum buddies AFTER kyte flips scum would be a tinfoil theory if I think about it now.
i don't see why anyone would sacrifice 2 teammates back to back for town cred so yea I guess Toujo would very much be clear for a long time. He could still be a negative 3rd party so there's that.

I'll be logging off now and come back in a few hours.

I agree, this is a completely reasonable conclusion. I was aware of the consequences of my push, since D1. I wouldn't do it unless I'm confident.

Why would I be the genuine pig for that "experiment" though, when, I'd say, I've always been the one on the reasonable side, and I'm yet to see any case on me from Toujo, anyways(?) I'm almost drained from talking about the subject over and over.

Still waiting for anyone to ISO my posts and analyze them, by the way.

 

[Rej]

also we had tons of semi open/open setups, so I dont understand Ansas point

 

[Houtarou]

Its one of the reason. Not 100% the reason. :/
Why are you nitpicking like that?

I simply liked the way X was in Day Phase 1. He pressured Poison decently. He engaged with others in a more understanding manner compared to Toujo which is the only reason why I town read X and not Toujo..

Besides I have not cleared him but if I had to pick out of everyone in this game to be town I'd go with X personally :/
Further developments might change my view but nah right now I am sticking with my own read for him

I was not nitpicking but don't you think a reason like that hardly qualifies to give someone town read? You're only consistent as hell when you're sure about something, you have doubts, fear etc etc when you're town you're trying to avoid mislynch and that's why we end up in jumble

 

[Houtarou]

Connecting Toujo and Poison tho. Hm What makes you think Toujo went for Poison instead of Glover or even Ryu Kishi.

I don't get this question... I was implying that if I wanted to save Poison I would have gone for Glover.

 

[Rej]

Still waiting for anyone to ISO my posts and analyze them, by the way.

Too many wallies done by you and toujo D1
It is hard to backtrack how this evolved because it evolved very early.

 

[Rej]

If I feel better later, after work, I might do a short ISO on tou and Kyte.

To be noted: I never read Kyte correctly in any game.

 

[Houtarou]

If I feel better later, after work, I might do a short ISO on tou and Kyte.

To be noted: I never read Kyte correctly in any game.

Just curious... who are you reading correct