[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

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@-PK- Your reason to clear X is terrible... you cleared him because he never changed his vote... are you for real? How can a reason like that be legit?
Its one of the reason. Not 100% the reason. :/
Why are you nitpicking like that?

I simply liked the way X was in Day Phase 1. He pressured Poison decently. He engaged with others in a more understanding manner compared to Toujo which is the only reason why I town read X and not Toujo..

Besides I have not cleared him but if I had to pick out of everyone in this game to be town I'd go with X personally :/
Further developments might change my view but nah right now I am sticking with my own read for him
 

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so many pages again wow
btw I'm gonna have some busy days ahead btu I'm gonna try to keep up

Iso Red-
I want more info from her. If I didn't miss anything she has yet to bring any other ISO than AL_sama. It's understandable with life. But it doesn't need to be perfectly written and polished! So some other scum or town leans? Please if you can, when it's suitable for you @Just_Red

Learn reading wagonomics and then make a case against me again.
Based on wagonomics I should be town core.

So when Michelle voted Toujo and evened out the wagons I went back to poison. Showing how I was always aware of the lynch. I was just stand by all the time so i can redirect the lynch against Poison with my vote.

You realize that I had mainly control of the wagons last DP? Now tell me again in face I am scum. Tell me I am an exe or mafia that bussed my partner. My beloved Poison chan.

Nah man. Nah. Please try get me lynched next game. Thanks.

Also if you ever use a lynch redirect against me to take me out. It will end up showing you as a weak player. And now vote me please.
hold up. This line @bold
Are you litterly puting yourself as scum? The way you phrase it hints to you not being town. I'm I reaching? Maybe, but come on, what are you trying to say there?
How is he doing that? I looked at his post and it doesn't look like it to me.

Why were you taking a sentence like that out of the context?
Am I to get this right? Did you just lean him scum based on one sentence after you did that whole Iso on AL_sama?


Just to clarify that Poison was always my suspect but I just didn't want her to be lynched also I did give my reason for Toujo on my essay level post and I didn't felt it was necessary for me to state all reason that has been already mentioned by Kyte

That being said I did vote Glover but unvoted him when I saw he was one of the few who voted poison early so I wanted to see his development to that... I was always intended to lynch Toujo last phase but at the same time I wanted to act like throughout the phase I don't want to lynch him
Could you explain why please?[the bolded part] If you did already sorry I'm not caught up.



Okay starting off I think I need to come clean to everyone but especially SK >_>
When I messaged you last night that I was catching up and was on Page 58. Well I lied.... I actually started reading the thread this morning from Page 18 <_<.
So for the past 12 hours I have been catching up with the thread continuously and reading any free time I got.
My reasons I have already stated before in the thread. Up till 15th June I had to complete my research project and that took a lot of my time. Also my wifi was down since 3 days so it took even longer to complete it and made catching up with the thread even harder coz I was on mobile.

Moving on from that. Believe it or not I have actually gone through every single page.. Although I might have skimmed a few posts (From Rej and Toujo). I wanted to post while I was reading the thread but 2 reasons held me back.
1st - If I started quoting posts from the page I was on, SK would have found out I was way behind than I had told him and I did not wanna upset me.
2nd - A lot of events were already pretty old so I didn't wanna dig them up again unnecessarily.

Now to the actual game. I saw a lot of discussion of the setup and how there could be 2 scum teams. I personally think its the 4 scum, 14 town, 2 3rd parties setup.

What I found the most interesting thing reading so far in the game was the event that happened during Day Phase 1 when Poison was in lead and Poison turned out to be scum.
@Just_Red - Agreeing with what she said I think the people that were the first voters for Poison are likely to be town as I don't see any reason why any scum team would wanna shade their own teammate without any pressure right at the beginning of the game. And Poison's role had very strong powers so it would be stupid to waste them like that.
Who caused that explosion has been up for debate. I personally believe it was the Mafia team themselves. I don't see any reason why any 3rd party would be bothered to waste their ability like that.
In the write-up SK wrote everyone's surprise to the explosion except Squad Commander 1's so it could be him that used his power since in the opening of the game he was portrayed as super strong or something. But there was no reaction with him when SC 3 came to thebattlefield either so I could very much be reaching here and be wrong. Still I am gonna stick with the belief that it was a mafia move and not anyone else's.


The Night Phase kill was also interesting. Everyone was roleblocked with only the Mafia leader able to perform a kill. Could be a mafia ability. Could be a town who used it but the Princess was just immune to it. I am not sure about this one since I am not really used to all these complicated powers and roles.

NOW for my reads. I will write my town reads first.
X is my number 1 town read at the moment. Not only because of their vote on Poison from start till end of Day phase but in general with the way they have played.
Just red - I can believe she was busy in the previous phase and I like her posts in this phase.
Tigerr - She has made good posts and played well in this game so far.

As for my scum reads in no specific order.
The first two people that I'd like to mention are the ones that tried to divert attention from the Poison wagon in the previous phase.
That would be
1) Kyte - I just didn't like how they were insistent that Toujo was scum but I can let that slide since you gotta pressure you sus in the game. But what I found the most odd was that post where he mentioned the timing of the event with respect to Ansa's post of how he was logging off. The timing turned out to be way off than he mentioned and I don't think was as relevant at that moment. He's being pressured in this phase so I'd like to his posts addressing these points.
2) Houtarou - I don't know what to think of your plays near the end of last phase.
IIRC you went from not wanting to vote poison to being okay with her getting lynched. You also wanted to lynch glover but at the end settled for Toujo? Idk man seems like you were all over the place and unlike Kyte I didn't even see you try giving good reason to push the wagon on Toujo.
3) Al_Sama - I did not like their giving up attitude when the pressure was on them early in the day phase =. At one point they did say he wasn't gonna defend himself and was okay with getting lynched. I found their posts lacking compared to other people and the fact they decided to abstain from the vote last phase was just odd. I am not too sure on AL but yea. ://

These 4 I don't have much strong reads but if I had to give them an alignment (Not factoring in 3rd party)

Imp - Town
Elmage - Town
Rej - Town ( Idk how this guy always comes off as super scummy but still turns to be town. Its just funny at this point xD)
Ansa - Town

Everyone is welcome to reply to this post and get a discussion going because SK wants a lot of posts from me now and I can't do that if you people don't engage.
Except maybe Rej (coz I just can't read you man) and Toujo ( I do want want to be told the fallacies of my post over and over).
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Okay tinfoil time.

Houtarou is a non mafia aligned slot that saved Poison because he planned to execute his lynchee Toujo. The reset came from Houtarou and maybe cought even mafia offguard.

AL has a lynch redirect, he doesn't mind being PoEd and still fires against potential townies. When he gets lynched he will deflect the lynch against someone else. Maybe mafia wants to set me up for a late game mislynch.

I need another breather.
Your theories in every game just blow my mind.
Like I think of absurd stuff too but I just like how you just post them without a care in the world. Lmao
 
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Let's not tinfoil yet. One of the things that have irked me this phase is that people still want to go after Ratchet despite being the counter wagon to a wolf. I mean, is it POSSIBLE that Ratchet is scum, absolutely. But I think that needs to be resolved later in the game, if it needs to be resolved at all. I think we hit wolf D1 and from that there should be a lot of clues on who Poison's teammates are. No need to get way off course here.
THIS. ^^^^
Like we are just in the 2nd Day Phase and we aren't even in a bad position. Why are the tinfoils coming out just yet. :/
 

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I dont see Toujo lynching Poison for town credit entirely out of the realm of possibility but it feels far fetched to me.
Would Toujo trade up a scum teammate with the crazy abilities she had just for some town credit? I get what youre saying but it just doesn't feel like the wisest move to make. Especially because Toujo was pushing poison rather a lot, and early even before votes reset if i remember correctly.
Yea I agree. Getting rid of Poison for some extra town cred specially when you keep in mind the abilities that Poison had is a silly move in the first phase itself. Toujo had options of RGK and Ryu who he had already mentioned as one of his scum reads so why kill you own overpowered teammate for town cred when there was a better alternative available.

Adding to this. Toujo has so far come off as a very cocky player. Now this is just me reaching here but a player with his experience and attitude I can imagine wanting to demolish the town team without even losing a single scum mate.
Its been the mentality of every good Scum player I have played with. They only wanted to lose a scum mate when the situation was becoming a bit messy for them to handle.
 

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THIS. ^^^^
Like we are just in the 2nd Day Phase and we aren't even in a bad position. Why are the tinfoils coming out just yet. :/
Of course. Looking at your post you seem tolerating Mislynch. Let Scum kill all the players that capable to read them, using lynch or NK.

We have lost Michelle

I guess Scum gonna keep XTMF alive much longer.

If you like to experimenting(your post suggested that you would have no problem to accepting it) let's follow Toujo voting Kyte. If Kyte flipped scum Toujo is totally cleared, if Kyte flipped town you should know what to do in the 3rd DP.
 

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so many pages again wow
btw I'm gonna have some busy days ahead btu I'm gonna try to keep up

Iso Red-
I want more info from her. If I didn't miss anything she has yet to bring any other ISO than AL_sama. It's understandable with life. But it doesn't need to be perfectly written and polished! So some other scum or town leans? Please if you can, when it's suitable for you @Just_Red


How is he doing that? I looked at his post and it doesn't look like it to me.

Why were you taking a sentence like that out of the context?
Am I to get this right? Did you just lean him scum based on one sentence after you did that whole Iso on AL_sama?



Could you explain why please?[the bolded part] If you did already sorry I'm not caught up.





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Has SK been torturing you?
So productive and so much content. :O
The only reason I am still playing and putting in effort is because SK put in a lot of effort in this and I didn't wanna ruin it.
But yea if I didn't he probably would have done that. xD
 

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Of course. Looking at your post you seem tolerating Mislynch. Let Scum kill all the players that capable to read them, using lynch or NK.

We have lost Michelle

I guess Scum gonna keep XTMF alive much longer.

If you like to experimenting(your post suggested that you would have no problem to accepting it) let's follow Toujo voting Kyte. If Kyte flipped scum Toujo is totally cleared, if Kyte flipped town you should know what to do in the 3rd DP.
I am not tolerating a mislynch. lol
I have read everyone's case against Toujo in this phase and I am not convinced. I still feel lynching Kyte is the better option here. If Kyte flips scum then yea I don't think I'd be looking at Toujo as scum for the next phase. But does that clear him for the entire game? No

If Kyte does flip town then we'll see what happens from there.
 

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Yea I agree. Getting rid of Poison for some extra town cred specially when you keep in mind the abilities that Poison had is a silly move in the first phase itself. Toujo had options of RGK and Ryu who he had already mentioned as one of his scum reads so why kill you own overpowered teammate for town cred when there was a better alternative available.

Adding to this. Toujo has so far come off as a very cocky player. Now this is just me reaching here but a player with his experience and attitude I can imagine wanting to demolish the town team without even losing a single scum mate.
Its been the mentality of every good Scum player I have played with. They only wanted to lose a scum mate when the situation was becoming a bit messy for them to handle.
So you think RGK and Ryu are scum?
 

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I am not tolerating a mislynch. lol
I have read everyone's case against Toujo in this phase and I am not convinced. I still feel lynching Kyte is the better option here. If Kyte flips scum then yea I don't think I'd be looking at Toujo as scum for the next phase. But does that clear him for the entire game? No

If Kyte does flip town then we'll see what happens from there.
I don't think if Kyte flipped Scum Toujo still stays suspected.

Do you think their battle is fake?
 

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I don't think if Kyte flipped Scum Toujo still stays suspected.

Do you think their battle is fake?
Saying Kyte and Toujo are scum buddies AFTER kyte flips scum would be a tinfoil theory if I think about it now.
i don't see why anyone would sacrifice 2 teammates back to back for town cred so yea I guess Toujo would very much be clear for a long time. He could still be a negative 3rd party so there's that.

I'll be logging off now and come back in a few hours.
 

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They could be but they aren't my priority atm and I have no reason to abandon my other reads to pursue them in this phase.
I don't think Poison conversation with Ryu was W/W

Plus go read Poison's ISO on Ryu Kishi and tell me whether that ISO is an openwolfing or scum throwing shade at town.
 
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