[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

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@Rej how can you vig to shoot oreki after what he did last day??

@Houtarou thoughts on tigerr??

@Alice in Noodleland @Elmage G Ace you guys voting me is fine but give your reasons

@-PK- 6 days to catch up really??

@Ansatsuken you mentioned poison might have been bussed but what can be gained from such an early bussing?? I mean losing a team member so early for some town credit isn't very logical

I m not sure what to make of x vs red

imp's vote change at the end makes me think he is scum

Hey man. Don't hate the player. Hate the game (Specially a game with bloody 100 pages) XD

@Houtarou I'll get back to you.

 

[TheLukundo]

Oh yeah. Aether or X is like conf. That bullshit argument D1 I hated spewed the person against Pritt imo.

 

[Tigerrr in the woods]

Not me?

Let me figure out what happened las night and iso.
I'll go through your late post, but overall I lean you town.

 

[AL_sama]

I think If Al is scum he could get away easily killing Michelle during NP using the cliche reasoning "its a frame up " rather than letting her live this DP because I know Michelle gonna go deeper with Al this DP.

Um, but why?

after the play I pulled last day and if I m scum than it'd be quite dumb to do something that will make me a prime suspect

 

[Ryu Kishi]

Anyone else thinks rej is scum? Anyway I will explain later.

Now Why I think toujo is scum.

1. He was a bit wishy washy on the subject of poison being scum.
2. He never seriously read anyone as scum or town the entire dp.
3. Majority of his posts are over explanations, pretty much drivel.
4. I'm pretty sure poison soft defended him last dp. She also soft defended Aether as well btw.
5. He keeps saying I'm reading him by playstyle, which is incorrect. I'm reading him on how he Is playing now and the knowledge of his Mafia tactics. Yes you can't read someone on the playstyle but, believe it or not, there always slight differences when they play either alignment. There are always chinks that you can sometimes notice and that is what I'm pointing out. Ratchet/toujo may not remember me but I remember him because, there were three of us in a Mafia team one time and he bussed us like meaningless pawns and won the game singlehandedly. So did he bus poison? More than likely.

Anway this is just my theory I know it's filled with fallacies but that's Mafia.

 

[Tigerrr in the woods]

Ok fast iso on Glover and my conclusion:

I think he voted Poison one of the first. I looked like 10 pages back no voters on her so I would assume he was one of the first voters. So unless mafia was planning this from the beginning he seems ok.
His post with the vote on Poison seems kinda dramatic though so not sure what to make of it still.

You’ve done it, you’ve been arousing my suspicion, ticking my anger but you HAD to go there. This isn’t a simple wound, it’s a battle scar which had affected my second game’s appearance. You play with me, I’ll play with you!

*I start typing furiously, the keyboard could barely handle the intensity he was writing. A smile slowly appears as he’s finishing, a smile that would scare away many corpses. A smile that makes the angels looking down watch in terror. Poison wasn’t going to regret her decision. As Poison sees what Glover posts a tear goes down her face, then slowly more tears go down. Are you curious what he wrote he wrote.

VoteLynch: Poison

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What are your updated reads @RedGloverKing ?

 

[Ansatsuken]

Why tho?

Inside this spoiler just focus on the conversations that related to Poison.

Spoiler

Ansatsuken:




I dont know whats the point of bringing that up then?



What are you trying to imply here?



tbh I understood everything in this post except the bolded part.



and tbh I was confused by the bolded part as well and its not surprising that Ratchet was also confused without any context.

Anyway the later part of the post seemed like you only wanted to discuss with the forum regular only which is kinda rude considering there are a lot of new players playing as well and the fact that this is a mafia game.


and here you kinda went away from this, is there a specific reason why you didnt continue this?


can you tell me what you see to those reasoning?



because this post seem like now you are starting to see Al as scum, whats the difference between then and now?


what do you think, because you were going after him but stopped half way.


how are we going to perform the test?



idk why are you still going on about poison, i get it you think poison is town but people are allowed to think what they feel


wut? this doesnt make sense anymore. I need you to explain this, because you were reading poison town why would you want to lynch her?

Also can you give your town and scum reads atm?

This content post is same the previous post. Just fixing the quoting problems.

I have a problem with some people who were forming a kind of relationship/partnership without any confirmation that both of them are town first in the previous game.


So when I saw XTMF tried to form a partnership inside this game the previous dilemma haunts me again.

Is I'm clear enough?




I think I've said it very clear what I'm implying.

Just connect together my two comments where I asked people their opinion about Michelle's post and my comment that you have QUOTED here.

You will understand it.



The problem here, Toujo think I have made a grammatical error. I never argued about it because I know he knows better than me, his mother language afterall.

But I think I have made a clear distinction inside my post. This statement is for who and that statement is for who. So I didn't really see it as a big issue. If you look back at my post you can clearly see where I put Naomi. Its inside the statement where I addressed Nova and not Toujo. So how Toujo could mixed things up there? Eventhough my grammar was full of error.


That's the problem with English language. It making things complicated unlike Malay language.

As for the matter concerning Nova and Naomi, they are the players from the previous game that I'm talking about. They formed a relationship as early as D1 and very comfortable with it that I found very odd and suspicious.





OK, I apologize for my rudeness.





The reason I didn't continue addressing the matter concerning my ISO on Toujo was because I'm satisfied with his response to my questions.

Bcuz at that point I have given him clear message "Scum hunting please". I only asked him about his vote on RGK and if he still with RGK or have found better scum candidate as my response to his response to my ISO.


I didn't get any.



Like right now or before and after I voted AL?


What do you mean by "going after Toujo"? You think I'm suspecting him?

You're clearly mistaken here if you believe it like that. My ISO on Toujo or anyone, it intent and purpose is for me to get the better picture of the player. After I've finished ISO Toujo I came with conclusion that Toujo is slight town, not enough to give him billboard town read.

So are you expecting something from me here?

As for my comment to Ryu Kishi, I'm just sharing my thought. Every player have their own way to read player, have their own intuition, some sort of supernatural ability, I believe that.

Again, Ryu Kishi really firmly believe that Toujo is scum while I have Toujo as slight Town. Couldn't you see the difference in read there? Those reads started as personal ground work then the player shares it with people around them. It's not consensus read but player's personal read. You want to agree/disagree with it it's up to you. Some people were able to catch scum without much work.

How is your ground work on Toujo? What's your read on him?



Just vote Poison, see the result if mislynch we going to put extra scrutiny on Toujo. I think Scum that involve in mislynch will show a degree of fakeness and strange behavior infront of the mislynch result and how they perform scum hunting in the next dp.

Even if you think about it Toujo doesn't really serious scum reading most of his scum read. Take for example Poison.

How deep he sees scum in Lukundo. He battled a lot with Michelle over Michelle's meta read on Lukundo. There was something that I can agree with Toujo about that Meta read. But how serious he considers Lukundo as scum? @Toujo



Is it wrong for me to know other player's opinion about someone?

This post is strange.



Because she's not confirmed yet.



Before that I'm going to

Unvote: Al_sama

I'm going to start from here

My town read
-Toujo
-Ryu Kishi
-XTMF
-Poison

My scum read
-Imp(I think he's indie)
-Kyte
-Just_Red(I think her ISO on AL was intended to fueling the fire on AL's wagon, make it much stronger. While her doing the opposite that's watching on the sideline)
-Houtarou(he post many but not aggressive enough. I'm going to ISO him)

problem like?

From my experience of The Supreme Alliance, its not some blind trust between them. But yea its better to be cautious about that.




you said that you understood those who were voting AL here, but never voted AL:

but the later part where you voted AL seemed you are starting to see AL as scum after just red's iso, explain that to me.




thats what it looked like to me, which is why I asked.

anyway, I already gave my read on Ratchet, he is null-town lean.




I dont know why you think people would agree to lynch poison just to determine if Toujou is right and why cant Toujou be wrong as town as well?

You see whats wrong with this test?





fair, I got that differently but to me it felt like you were focusing on poison too much.



no one is confirmed and we all know that.

and I thought, you were reading her as town this whole time which is why that was weird to me. Even now in your reads you putting her on town list. So why would you want to lead a lynch on someone you think is town.

To explain to you my thoughts in simple way;

• Because he said I'm focusing on Poison too much. So what's the problem here? So here its like he didn't like what I'm doing. He didn't like me put too much focus on Poison.
• He questioned my move on asking player their opinion on Poison. This's strange. Like he didn't want people to share their opinion about Poison. Mean He wanted to get people away from Poison.
• He asked me why I wanted to lead Poison lynch when I town reading her. I mean this part really shows that he sensed danger. He knew if I went with this move and asked people to follow my move for sure Poison gonna get lynch. So he tried to influence or control my thinking. He questioned me "why you want to lynch your town read?", "Even now in your reads you putting her on town list. So why would you want to lead a lynch on someone you think is town." He tried to put a sense in me. But he forgot that I have said "Poison is slight Town, mean town read on her isn't strong"

 

[AL_sama]

my top 3 town and scums list

town
hou/oreki
x
tigerr

scum
rej
imp
red

 

[Houtarou]

@Houtarou thoughts on tigerr??

She's town

 

[Rej]

To be honest, your post doesn't really give anything they're baseless theories if nothing else... having doctor on Michelle is rather different than a killer killing her... people assume she's a famous target when in actuality that's exactly what make her not so famous target

I made more than one post on Michelle and why she is town and I made more than one post on why Poison has a higher chance to flip scum than Toujo. I reasoned all my points and I was right on both topics.

You tryna explain me some bratshit here and I dont know who you wanna convince.

Just because your wallies are 10% longer than mine and just because your postcount is higher than mine gives noone a reason to discredit what I do lmao.

Baseless theories. Gtfo.

 

[Houtarou]

Tell me your objective here.

They're just my 'raw' thoughts that yet to be materialized properly

 

[Rej]

You can't imagine my struggle here.
I got issues with my wifi since 3 days so I am exhausting my mobile data on this. Feels bad.

I am still skimming.
You mind helping me out and making a brief summary of DP1? xD

Dude you are asking potential scum for help. Wtf

 

[Houtarou]

I made more than one post on Michelle and why she is town and I made more than one post on why Poison has a higher chance to flip scum than Toujo. I reasoned all my points and I was right on both topics.

You tryna explain me some bratshit here and I dont know who you wanna convince.

Just because your wallies are 10% longer than mine and just because your postcount is higher than mine gives noone a reason to discredit what I do lmao.

Baseless theories. Gtfo.

Reading Michelle town and she's being famous target are two completely different things and how I discredit you for that

 

[Houtarou]

I wouldn't think Al would put fire on himself like that and be this obvious @Alice in Noodleland . But I'm not ruling out third party possibility for him yet.

You think he can't be scum?

 

[Houtarou]

I dont mind a Houtraou and Al lynch today to be honest

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[AL_sama]

I made more than one post on Michelle and why she is town and I made more than one post on why Poison has a higher chance to flip scum than Toujo. I reasoned all my points and I was right on both topics.

yeah you were right and didn't wanna vote poison

how do you expect others to view that??

 

[AL_sama]

You think he can't be scum?

I m on her scum list

 

[Houtarou]

@Rej stop with this pointless paronia of yours

 

[Houtarou]

I m on her scum list

Oh I mean mafia

 

[Rej]

@Rej how can you vig to shoot oreki after what he did last day??

@Houtarou thoughts on tigerr??

@Alice in Noodleland @Elmage G Ace you guys voting me is fine but give your reasons

@-PK- 6 days to catch up really??

@Ansatsuken you mentioned poison might have been bussed but what can be gained from such an early bussing?? I mean losing a team member so early for some town credit isn't very logical

I m not sure what to make of x vs red

imp's vote change at the end makes me think he is scum

Because he could be an exe role. Are you reading what I write?

Anyone else thinks rej is scum? Anyway I will explain later.

Now Why I think toujo is scum.

1. He was a bit wishy washy on the subject of poison being scum.
2. He never seriously read anyone as scum or town the entire dp.
3. Majority of his posts are over explanations, pretty much drivel.
4. I'm pretty sure poison soft defended him last dp. She also soft defended Aether as well btw.
5. He keeps saying I'm reading him by playstyle, which is incorrect. I'm reading him on how he Is playing now and the knowledge of his Mafia tactics. Yes you can't read someone on the playstyle but, believe it or not, there always slight differences when they play either alignment. There are always chinks that you can sometimes notice and that is what I'm pointing out. Ratchet/toujo may not remember me but I remember him because, there were three of us in a Mafia team one time and he bussed us like meaningless pawns and won the game singlehandedly. So did he bus poison? More than likely.

Anway this is just my theory I know it's filled with fallacies but that's Mafia.

So you saying me and Toujo coordinated to bus Poison Chan?
Dude this would be the best bus in mafia history. I am not capable of doing that. Next.