[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

[Houtarou]

Also, I mentioned that before but the killing pattern is too familiar to me... and as i said Rej is the only player beside me who do random killing patterns like this

 

[Houtarou]

Also only player with guts to keep highly experienced players ALIVE

 

[XTMF]

I don’t have a perfect grasp of the full breadth of the Rej gameplay. But someone like Rej who almost was giving his reads to the most players whether one-liner or just direct read had actually very few interactions with Poison. I was just rereading the thread and noticed that neither Poison nor Rej really interacted with each other at all. Let's not forget these two are someone who loves to interact with just about anyone, especially Rej who was giving his reads left to right actually decide to ignore Poison after just one post interaction, not mentioning her name or anything and only thrown a little shade on her when others were suspecting her very hard.

Early game Rej said this;


But as DP went on and the count of players that were suspecting Poison increased Rej went ahead and started to make his case on AL. His preparations themselves progressed smoothly for the case AL itself, and all that remained was the menial job of fanning the flames over and over. but it didn't really work out for him when I suddenly turn the table with my push on Toujo and creating the main focus between Poison and Toujo so while RGK was another lynch inside these days Rej kept voted Glover but later knowing he won't get enough people to lynch glover he went ahead and voted the leading wagon; Poison wagon itself.

The reason Rej didn't think of a way to help poison was first, he had no obligation to assist her in such a bothersome situation, and defending her was out of the options; secondly, there were very few options for him to defend poison without getting a shade thrown to him, although out of two-three leading wagons, Rej decides to vote RedGloverKing first, although it didn't last for too long when he saw that poison lynch getting more votes. This was exactly the right moment to vote poison to gain temporary trust and as well as lynching a scum to gain town credits.

In short, Poison was pretty consensus scum read, and if there ever consensus town core D1, most of its members were on it. I'm not sure what Rej could have done to defend poison without throwing himself into the fire so I think he took the best route and accepted the fate of his teammate.

Another post that caught my attention from Rej was this;

This posts merely hints that Rej was trying to gain credits for Poison lynch, nowhere it has shown, or even look like Rej was actually controlling the wagon... he was merely a part of the wagon. Why would Rej try to take credits for Poison lynch despite knowing he was not even the one that started it and only voted her at a late phase when Poison was bound to get lynched. So there is a contradiction with his posts, there is absolutely no reason for Rej to think he was controlling the wagon outside of getting town cred.

Also, does this vote look like from someone who was controlling the wagon;



Rej early town reads contain not only a list of just player and but unusual reasoning that you really can't understand properly, In other words these posts:

Also, the bolded part feels off to me... I don't see why he needed to mention this, also it's pretty convincing that he says Michelle is only useful in the DP until Mafia kills her. Rej had this post laid out and Michelle was dead next phase, both things ping me that Rej had intention when created that post and those intention were to kill Michelle.

Here comes another early phase read I didn't liked from Rej, an attempt of pocketing Imp has done here;


I don't get how exactly but this feels very Rej like a post when he's scum... I think Imp wouldn't understand what Rej implied but I think he's happy that Rej was reading him town hence what Rej wanted being achieved

Also, the way Rej speaks and demeanor he put on, it makes him sound very dependent. While it's a very effective way to give someone the illusion that they're reliable. Yet it's risky for you to go on like that, not just in the long term, but in the short term as well, since I do think I'm not the only that has notice these patterns on Rej gameplay.

Here's Rej another weird town read with another silly reason;


This one as well, I am pretty sure no one really bothered with this or even trackback to see what Rej was trying to say... it's perfect reasoning and quite common. Not only people will overlook that but also gonna think there must be something on page 45 that made Rej think he's town hence player decide not really try to look that but here's what we got on page 45

If you think that wouldn't have been enough and look genuine read to Rej, then rej'd be way underestimating Luku because just not game ago Luku pulled crazy taints like that there as well and he scum and Rej was the host. So yeah this is another one of Rej weird reads that really hold no ground but trying to look like he's contributing while in reality, I don't think this actually gave anything for anyone to work with. It was just random one-liner reads that people think "Yeah, I think it's fine" and then overlook it.

Whenever trouble arises, Rej wafts in afterward and acts like he caused it all and then reaps the benefit after the fact. Even though he did nothing up that point. It's like when false prophets claim they saw actual events of the past, way before they happened. It's Rej style to get people to believe him when he says that. Matter of fact, if you were to look Rej from very calm and normal point of view, then the things he says aren't ordinarily believable in mafia... the things he does tell you the worst possible thing at the worst possible moment to rattle you and make you vulnerable.

Rej is not upfront player with manipulation akin to other players but rather his habit to bullshit through just about anything or make reasons like these that people think that it cannot be done by Mafia but in reality Rej in these cases actually trying to hide something, most likely his fake font he has been putting to appear town.

Another example of this Rej was treating on me and Kyte read as if he's paranoid but I only see that a reason to avoid an argument or any conflict with us while still suspecting us. this where I feel Rej has been really not putting his act together

Though I have to say If Rehj got on TV calling himself a prophet, he’d be quite a hit, I bet.

TL;DR He's fucking scum and I have not single shred of doubt that he's not... I am rarely wrong about rej but right now I feel more than enough confident to follow that lynch
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Why a Rej case of all things? Why not take Osie's suggestion and write twenty words about every player?

 

[-PK-]

@-PK- @Ansatsuken @Ryu Kishi @Rej

Let's vote for Hou. I think that my case against him is damning and I think he's floundered in this thread trying to respond to it. I think Osie really put the gears to him in my steed and I don't really feel much of a desire to respond to his defense because he just looks guilty in my eyes. I think his EOD1 play indicated he was stuck making the choice of attempting to save his teammate and bussing her, which resulted in him flip flopping his vote. D2 he gravitated towards Kyte because that was where the safe lynch was. And then in D3 he has been looking for a safe place to put his vote asking many different players who they are voting for and if they would vote for him. He's already suggested Ratchet, Red, Bee, and myself as all potential counter wagons to his own. This sounds more like self-preservation than scum hunting. His absence of a core list of suspects is very troubling.

I get where you are coming from and I read your whole case against.
Its a pretty good case against him tbh. I'll be deciding who to vote for in a moment.

 

[Houtarou]

The fact that he said he wasn.t gonna be around in dp1 eod and yet he came

Something that I even mention to SK on DM since really had personal reasons but it was 17 hours before phase ended so yeah I got time earlier than expected

I am not staying true my words is more of a more reason to think that I am being doubtful... tell me don't you have a sudden change of intentions yourself? It's quite common to have them, it Just I state them in a thread with no precautions while others don't

 

[-PK-]

No and don't try to tell me Bee has no problem open wolfing, please. Houtarou is the lynch today.

I think shading Bee is a desperate shade at this point. Guy isn't even bothered to show up.

 

[XTMF]

I get where you are coming from and I read your whole case against.
Its a pretty good case against him tbh. I'll be deciding who to vote for in a moment.

Waiting to see if there's still a chance to save your scummate? :maybe

 

[XTMF]

I think shading Bee is a desperate shade at this point. Guy isn't even bothered to show up.

Agreed. If he really is sick, then he's just can't be here. If he's scum, there's no enough to push on him nor do I think his flip provides a ton of information.

 

[XTMF]

Is there a way to check how many posts people have made in a thread?

 

[Ansatsuken]

I will ask you once again to join me on this Hou wagon; I feel as good about it was I do the Poison lynch.

Ok if we get another mislynch I know what I'm gonna do

ChangeVote: Houtarou

Note: At everyone else, if you all agree to vote Toujo please tag me. Toujo look unsure about his vote rn and is suggesting Beeboat lynch is TMI tell.

 

[-PK-]

@-PK- who you gonna vote. I don't trust these peeps. You're the only town lean I have.

Mostly like Hou because town can't be split up each phase. And the Al sama train isn't picking up.
Also compared to Hou, AL has shown less inconsistency. I just think they aren't putting in the effort at this point.

 

[Houtarou]

Why a Rej case of all things? Why not take Osie's suggestion and write twenty words about every player?

Hmmm... don't care about your this post
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[-PK-]

Waiting to see if there's still a chance to save your scummate? :maybe

No. Coz I am not voting for Toujo and he's still the counter wagon for Hou.

I am willing to lynch Hou but I am just feeling paranoid that he might flip town.
It seems logical with how things have went on.
But if he flips town I think we need to re-evaluate our approach

Its just a nagging feeling at the back of my head that scum are in the inactives

 

[Tigerrr in the woods]

Something that I even mention to SK on DM since really had personal reasons but it was 17 hours before phase ended so yeah I got time earlier than expected

I am not staying true my words is more of a more reason to think that I am being doubtful... tell me don't you have a sudden change of intentions yourself? It's quite common to have them, it Just I state them in a thread with no precautions while others don't

I am having some true

 

[Houtarou]

No. Coz I am not voting for Toujo and he's still the counter wagon for Hou.

I am willing to lynch Hou but I am just feeling paranoid that he might flip town.
It seems logical with how things have went on.
But if he flips town I think we need to re-evaluate our approach

Its just a nagging feeling at the back of my head that scum are in the inactives

I am gonna get lynch either way... don't see why are you so doubting to vote me. So I say lynch me and free me from this nightmare, I can't really deal any of this any longer.

And You can all solve the game better next phase

 

[-PK-]

What's bothering the most about Hou is how many targets he has changed in this phase.

Toujo, X, Red, Beeboat, Now rej?

Like what is the aim here exactly?

 

[Houtarou]

What's bothering the most about Hou is how many targets he has changed in this phase.

Toujo, X, Red, Beeboat, Now rej?

Like what is the aim here exactly?

others were unsure while I am really really really sure about Rej.. I can bet everything on that so I really ask the town to follow his lynch next phase after my flip. Please. Just forget I had those change of intention lynch Rej next phase since I\m 100% sure at this point

 

[Houtarou]

communication is the key to mafia games and in order to read someone you need content from them but if there is no communication how are you gonna get anything? SO next phase tag the hell of out everyone and keep on tagging them

 

[Ryu Kishi]

Well the is def scum and so is toujo.

 

[Houtarou]

I am having some true

The blood of experienced players disagree... you see they're consistent as hell even in their own thinking so anything like that strikes them bad also they will not accept this because their pride hold them back and if they accepted this they'll be accepting that point was nothing but convenient way to make a case