[Game] SK - League Of Legends Mafia Game Thread! Fight Or Be Forgotten!! #15

[mothbomb]

1) how do you differentiate between scum TMI and "cop TMI" in a non-claim role madness?

2) I have noted TMI next to Houtarou in my notes, but I don't remember why, possibly because a) he went after Rej from day start, b) he didn't seem invested in his discussion with ScarletCelestial. it's hard to fake scumhunting (I learned the term WiM, which stands for "want it more") when you already know everyone's alignment (so slacking comes natural). I don't trust my initial reads though, I suck at guessing. His fights with Rej, Odd (I think?), Scarlet all seemed to me like he wasn't that invested in the outcome, or in learning anything.
I'm not saying it's scummy, maybe I just don't understand these methods.

No I think poison is way scummier than houtaru. also rej was playinh as sk, but townsiding hard af at end of day. he was mad at getting lynched and had no reason to lie about any of his reads.

 

[Mendel]

@Scarlett
just to reiterate...

you said poison chans EOD was good?

but Rej was a SK, working alone (presumably)
why would Poison Chan unvote as scum?
unless someone told her in scumchat that "Rej is SK, let's cooperate for now"? is that likely?

 

[mothbomb]

scarlett isnt scum for her opinion on poison chan however.

 

[Mendel]

No I think poison is way scummier than houtaru. also rej was playinh as sk, but townsiding hard af at end of day. he was mad at getting lynched and had no reason to lie about any of his reads.

I think Poison had a slow start and deflected a lot, but in the end produced a lot as well. I don't know her meta, so to me that seems normal for someone who likes to procrastinate.

Did you have a look at her three ISOs that I quoted?

 

[mothbomb]

but Rej was a SK, working alone (presumably)
why would Poison Chan unvote as scum?
unless someone told her in scumchat that "Rej is SK, let's cooperate for now"? is that likely?

no no. thats not really important. Its not why would she unvote as scum.

she just suddenly realizes 1 min before flip that rej might be town.

theres like multiple wagons that are a 2

she can tie it and rand lynch. isnt there rand lynches on ties here?

 

[mothbomb]

there is such a thing as botching an end of day as scum mendel

 

[mothbomb]

I think Poison had a slow start and deflected a lot, but in the end produced a lot as well. I don't know her meta, so to me that seems normal for someone who likes to procrastinate.

Did you have a look at her three ISOs that I quoted?

I dont think her production makes her town. because what she produced is very confusing to see town motive in

 

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anyway reread my case on poison and I think youll find that although I ignore the three ISOs she did, (didnt read them yet. but I will) I still think theres a focus mostly on roles, setup, and mechanics.

combine this with that her end of day conclydes rej is town, but she doesnt try to save his life by pushing any counterwagon

 

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*throws spider at mendel*
this is for making me explain myself

 

[Mendel]

It was long walk during the night. The sun is about to rise once again to shed light on all of Runterra. General Darius stops the townie team progression for a moment, the townie team stands by his side to see what is going on. An individual with immense dark energy is in their path far away they can barely see him but they can definitely sense his dangerous aura. The individual slowly but surely started walking toward them. The townie team prepare themselves for battle.



That individual is non other than Rhaast himself. Walking toward the townie team with a huge smile on his face. He says "It seems that my darkin brothers are little bit late to the party. Gooood... More lives to reap for me!". General Darius takes the initiative and walks forward with his mighty axe to confront Rhaast. Right now they are at close distance and townie team can clearly see Rhaast and Rhaast can clearly see the townie team. Rhaast says in a loud mighty voice "Which to wreak first? Carnage, havoc, or mayhem? I just can't decide!" and leaps into General Darius and the townie team with incredible speed. When all of a sudden a gigantic ice storm takes place out of nowhere making the entire battle field complete chaos, blurry and hard to see.



During the chaotic events that just took place. Braum with his gigantic shield went to his nearest ally to rescue but at the same time felt like something was stripped away from him. Flames came out of the gigantic storm and a Deadly arrow from miles away with incredible speed pierced through one of the townies among the chaos. He fell down on his knees trying to catch his last breath as he falls to the ground. But suddenly a light so strong emitted deep within the gigantic storm covering the entire battle field. When the light finally vanished, the townie that got pierced by the arrow. His wound was healed, the storm is gone, and the entire townie team seem to be in good but slightly damaged shape due to all the shit storm that happened. Rhaast on the opposing side of the townie team taking back from all the chaos that happened.



Rhaast stood up. He landed quite far from the townie team. When he looked at their direction he saw them charging at him with full speed. Rhaast smiled and risen his scythe. "TIME FOR ROUND 2!" he says as he leaps toward their direction. As the sun finally rises completely behind of him marking the beginning of the day.

Rhaast is mafia ("darkin brothers"). Rhaast is also the dark aspect of Kayn in LoL lore (I just googled it).
Braum is town and tried to protect.
An arrow from Varus killed a townie (see next quote)
Someone triggered a "heal all" and undid any night deaths.

Miles away from the current ongoing battle between Rhaast and the Townie team.



"You missed Varus?" - ????? smiles.



"No, That was definitely a killer blow. Something else has happened in the battle field, besides I can feel Rhaast energy over there. I guess that buffoon finally managed to unseal himself. " , Varus lowers down his bow and continues. "Time to make it down there in the battle before Rhaast steals all the fun. Aatrox is already ahead of us. The moment he reach the battle field it will be a Massacre."



"Agreed." - ????? replies.



Together they start moving toward the battle field.

So we have Rhaast (Kayn), Varus, Aatrox, and ????? as scum team (mafia). Looks like there are 4 mafia.

Close to the ongoing battle a cry is heard. The individual finally left his cave crying... and walking aimlessly..

from Rej, quoting SK' game start flavor:

In a cave nearby of the inevitable war zone a crying voice is heard.... Along with a darkness that is slowly but surely emerging into the mortal realm. MORDEKAISER

since Rej was Mordekaiser, and we lynched him, this must be another 3rd party "crying and walking aimlessly", does not sound very threatening to me (yet?), seems to not be mortal (undead?)
does anyone recognize this from LoL?

I cannot find Mordekaiser at all in the initial flavor, unless he was the darkness? since the darkness is no longer mentioned?

Link to original D1 flavor:

Several years has passed since the horrible events of the last war...

 

[Mendel]

no no. thats not really important. Its not why would she unvote as scum.

she just suddenly realizes 1 min before flip that rej might be town.

theres like multiple wagons that are a 2

she can tie it and rand lynch. isnt there rand lynches on ties here?

No, ties mean no lynch.

If there is a Lynch Tie, then no one in the tie will die

 

[mothbomb]

so she unvoted a guy she thinks is town but lets him die anyway

 

[mothbomb]

Im just saying the way scarlett described poisons end of day I imagined somebody from mu like manti or creature just relentlessly layin down votes and shifting wagons like a maniac

instead I read it and its poison joins pead wagon, he gon die as a 3.

so she leaves the wagon to unvote
calls him town with no time left to help fix the issue.

lol.

 

[Mendel]

so she unvoted a guy she thinks is town but lets him die anyway

Poison would have had to vote on one of the 2-vote wagons, but frankly it was very confusing, I was reading it later and wouldn't have been able to figure it out in this short time. It's not like MU where you can call up a vote count at any time, I think SK left a voter off the Corazon wagon at one point, and I think Rej was under the impression he had saved himself?

I mean, I don't know, but I can believe the intent to create a tie was there?
or at least, the intent to not stand in the way of that happening

and I just did some flavor interpreting myself, do you think I'm wasting everyone's time with that?

 

[XDDDDD]

The other player who has explicitly said this is Karote

There's Alice with her Internet problems, Corazon who won't "throw out names" (not even players to be townread), Conspirator who barely made the 4 post curoff, and Naomi Rose who IMO did not.

You have not been slacking off, you have been aggressively fluffing up the thread.

Ok? Does that help you scumread them in anyway or are you just pointing it out for lols

 

[Mendel]

Im just saying the way scarlett described poisons end of day I imagined somebody from mu like manti or creature just relentlessly layin down votes and shifting wagons like a maniac

instead I read it and its poison joins pead wagon, he gon die as a 3.

so she leaves the wagon to unvote
calls him town with no time left to help fix the issue.

lol.

@ScarletCelestial shifted votes herself quite a lot (more than anyone else), so townreading that reflects on herself, and Poison was the closest person who did that who did not flip SK ;-P
maybe just a psychological trick (or some honest empathy)?

 

[XDDDDD]

Vote: Corazon

If this ain't scum, idk what is

 

[mothbomb]

I would like more discussion about kc being scum too. and corazon. both

 

[Mendel]

too tired to have patience with that atm, @XDDDDD Karote

 

[XDDDDD]

too tired to have patience with that atm, @XDDDDD Karote

Ok np. And just call me XD, only Scarlet knows me by Karote