Six Paths Sage Mode Debate!

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Official material would be all works that are advertised as part of the story by the right holders of the series. Not really interested in hearing your ridiculous definition.

pretty much fits my description

There isn't anything that states that Naruto's Six Paths Sage mode comes from some limited chakra handout. Not in the manga, not in the databook and not in any other source of official material. The power of all Biju=Six Paths senjutsu is stated and shown though.

fourth databook page 310....naruto manga chapter 673...plenty of places boy

The manga states that whoever awakens Hagoromo's chakra awakens the Rinnegan. Naruto doesn't have the Rinnegan, therefore he doesn't have Hagoromo's chakra.

why don't you go ahead and make a thread about this so everyone else can join in on this hilarious fun

 

[TheSages456]

pretty much fits my description

No it doesn't, because you're blatantly rejecting material that was stated to be part of the story by Shueisha.

fourth databook page 310....naruto manga chapter 673...plenty of places boy

Not seeing "Naruto's Six Paths Sage mode comes from Hagoromo's chakra" anywhere.
The manga stated that Naruto possesses Hagoromo's power since they both possess the same senjutsu. Every Ten Tails' jinchuriki was stated to have Hagoromo's power.

Naruto states in 673 that he can feel the other half of Hagoromo's power in reference to the seals that he gave them.

why don't you go ahead and make a thread about this so everyone else can join in on this hilarious fun

So now you're claiming that it wasn't stated that Hagoromo's chakra awakens the Rinnegan in the person that possesses it? Just want to clarify.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

No it doesn't, because you're blatantly rejecting material that was stated to be part of the story by Shueisha.

only when it contradicts kishimoto

Not seeing "Naruto's Six Paths Sage mode comes from Hagoromo's chakra" anywhere.
The manga stated that Naruto possesses Hagoromo's power since they both possess the same senjutsu. Every Ten Tails' jinchuriki was stated to have Hagoromo's power.

so what the hell did hagoromo give naruto at the end of chapter 671?...a bag of tricks?...lmaooo what a joke...also fourth databook chapter 310...look it up

Naruto states in 673 that he can feel the other half of Hagoromo's power in reference to the seals that he gave them.

the seals were seals....not chakra emitters...stop reaching boy

So now you're claiming that it wasn't stated that Hagoromo's chakra awakens the Rinnegan in the person that possesses it? Just want to clarify.

I wasn't saying anything...I was typing...and I never typed jack shit about the rinnegan...stop reaching boy

 

[TheSages456]

only when it contradicts kishimoto

What you're claiming was literally never stated anywhere. You keep making up these "contradictions" simply because you don't want accept the fact that your argument is based on nothing at all except for this weird fanboyism.

so what the hell did hagoromo give naruto at the end of chapter 671?...a bag of tricks?...lmaooo what a joke...also fourth databook chapter 310...look it up

Hagoromo called out the Biju, then gave him the Yang seal.
Nowhere is it stated that Naruto's Six Paths Sage mode comes from Hagoromo's chakra. I already know of the databook's contents and it doesn't support any of your claims. Either post the statement already so I can shoot it down or stop bringing it up.

the seals were seals....not chakra emitters...stop reaching boy

The seals contain the Six Paths Yin & Yang chakra, hence why they can use Six Paths CT when brought together and Sasuke was already shown accessing it's chakra for Six Paths chidori. I shouldn't have to explain that jutsus contain chakra.

I wasn't saying anything...I was typing...and I never typed jack shit about the rinnegan...stop reaching boy

The manga stated that Hagoromo's chakra=Rinnegan. You were trying to imply otherwise.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

What you're claiming was literally never stated anywhere. You keep making up these "contradictions" simply because you don't want accept the fact that your argument is based on nothing at all except for this weird fanboyism.

what would be the fanboyism in this conversation?...please do explain...ps they were

Hagoromo called out the Biju, then gave him the Yang seal.
Nowhere is it stated that Naruto's Six Paths Sage mode comes from Hagoromo's chakra. I already know of the databook's contents and it doesn't support any of your claims. Either post the statement already so I can shoot it down or stop bringing it up.

hagoromo called out to the tailed beasts?...and what did that do?...nothing...the yang seal= irrelevant...it was not the source of naruto's power...also @ bold you clearly don't since you live in fanfiction.

"a gift from hagoromo" was kishimoto's words...the tailed beast chakra were not a gift from hagoromo...this is preK reading comprehension boy.

The seals contain the Six Paths Yin & Yang chakra, hence why they can use Six Paths CT when brought together and Sasuke was already shown accessing it's chakra for Six Paths chidori. I shouldn't have to explain that jutsus contain chakra.

damn...which makes it pretty much 110.0% set in stone that they should have lost those powers after sealing kaguya...oh wait :sdo:

The manga stated that Hagoromo's chakra=Rinnegan. You were trying to imply otherwise.

no...kishimoto was trying to imply otherwise...not me...you got it wrong boy

 

[TheSages456]

what would be the fanboyism in this conversation?...please do explain...ps they were

You keep adamantly claiming that Naruto has something that he does not have, no matter how much evidence is presented. That's the fanboyism.

hagoromo called out to the tailed beasts?...and what did that do?...nothing...the yang seal= irrelevant...it was not the source of naruto's power...also @ bold you clearly don't since you live in fanfiction.

"a gift from hagoromo" was kishimoto's words...the tailed beast chakra were not a gift from hagoromo...this is preK reading comprehension boy.

I never said that Hagoromo gave him the Biju's chakra. Stop trying to strawman my argument.
Hagoromo calling out the Biju which allowed them to manifest isn't a "gift"? Weird since Naruto himself wasn't able to utilize any of the other Biju's powers prior to Hagoromo's intervention.

It's almost like Hagoromo calling out the Biju and making them physically manifest was what allowed Naruto to finally utilize the power of the Biju for himself and awaken Six Paths Sage mode as stated in Shikamaru Hiden. :lol

damn...which makes it pretty much 110.0% set in stone that they should have lost those powers after sealing kaguya...oh wait :sdo:

Why would the seals having chakra in them mean that Naruto loses Six Paths sage mode and Sasuke loses the Rinnegan when the seals are lost? That makes no sense.
The seals were already shown utilizing jutsu, hence they have chakra.

no...kishimoto was trying to imply otherwise...not me...you got it wrong boy

He was trying to imply otherwise when Hagoromo stated that the power of his chakra is the Rinnegan?

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

You keep adamantly claiming that Naruto has something that he does not have, no matter how much evidence is presented. That's the fanboyism.

@ bold not me...kishimoto...also lmao what?...what does naruto have that he isn't supposed to?...ps WHAT EVIDENCE???

I never said that Hagoromo gave him the Biju's chakra. Stop trying to strawman my argument.
Hagoromo calling out the Biju which allowed them to manifest isn't a "gift"? Weird since Naruto himself wasn't able to utilize any of the other Biju's powers prior to Hagoromo's intervention.

are you aware that the 1 8 and 9 tails manifested themselves before hagoromo even said a word?...that's your dumbass mistake number 1...number 2 would be the fact that naruto recieved the chakra of the tailed beasts from OBITO...NOT HAGOROMO as stated by kishimoto in chapter 671:

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also @ bold by your logic no jinchuriki should be able to utilize the tailed beast's powers without six paths chakra :sdo:

It's almost like Hagoromo calling out the Biju and making them physically manifest was what allowed Naruto to finally utilize the power of the Biju for himself and awaken Six Paths Sage mode as stated in Shikamaru Hiden. :lol

this sequence of events completely discredits your false claims:

- 1 tails manifests...hagoromo is surprised and says nothing
- 8 tails manifests...hagoromo still says jack shit...lololololol
- 9 tails manifests...hagoromo THEN calls out the names of his pets

meaning this has nothing to do with jack shit you were typing about :sdo:

by the way you misinterpret that shikamaru hidan quote...he called naruto a "human pillar of the ten tails" and states nothing about the six paths senjutsu naruto has...he also states he has HAGOROMO'S CHAKRA EVEN NOW...lolololololol

Why would the seals having chakra in them mean that Naruto loses Six Paths sage mode and Sasuke loses the Rinnegan when the seals are lost? That makes no sense.

you defeat your own argument

The seals were already shown utilizing jutsu, hence they have chakra.

yea...the wielder uses the seals for six paths chibaku tensei...the seals do not hold six paths powers moron :sdo:

He was trying to imply otherwise when Hagoromo stated that the power of his chakra is the Rinnegan?

that's right...ps you might wanna reference that shikamaru hidan you keep bringing up....CLEARLY STATING THAT NARUTO HAS HAGOROMO'S CHAKRA EVEN NOW...nice job of owning yourself you fake ass sage...lmaooo good riddence

 

[TheSages456]

are you aware that the 1 8 and 9 tails manifested themselves before hagoromo even said a word?...that's your dumbass mistake number 1...number 2 would be the fact that naruto recieved the chakra of the tailed beasts from OBITO...NOT HAGOROMO as stated by kishimoto in chapter 671:

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also @ bold by your logic no jinchuriki should be able to utilize the tailed beast's powers without six paths chakra :sdo:



this sequence of events completely discredits your false claims:

- 1 tails manifests...hagoromo is surprised and says nothing
- 8 tails manifests...hagoromo still says jack shit...lololololol
- 9 tails manifests...hagoromo THEN calls out the names of his pets

meaning this has nothing to do with jack shit you were typing about :sdo:

Not once did I say that Hagoromo gave Naruto Biju chakra.

Naruto isn't a jinchuriki for all of the Biju. He physically only has 1 full Biju in him which is Kurama and remnants of the other 8. He couldn't use the power of the other 8 Biju before meeting Hagoromo.

The Biju physically manifested because Hagoromo was there. Hagoromo wasn't surprised at anything.

I don't know whether you're serious or you're just intentionally being retarded, but either way this is a simple concept.

Before meeting Hagoromo, the chakra of the other 8 Biju were inert & Naruto couldn't use any of their powers.
After meeting Hagoromo, the other 8 Biju finally manifested and Naruto could use their powers.


Was Naruto able to use the powers of the other 8 Biju before meeting Hagoromo? That's the only question that you need to answer.

by the way you misinterpret that shikamaru hidan quote...he called naruto a "human pillar of the ten tails" and states nothing about the six paths senjutsu naruto has...he also states he has HAGOROMO'S CHAKRA EVEN NOW...lolololololol



you defeat your own argument

Naruto is clearly stated to be a "human pillar for the power of the Ten Tails". What does the Ten Tails give it's jinchuriki? I know this must be very difficult for you to comprehend.

It states that Naruto has Hagoromo's power, just like every other Ten Tails' jinchuriki does, not Hagoromo's specific chakra. Stop wasting time with the pointless lying.

yea...the wielder uses the seals for six paths chibaku tensei...the seals do not hold six paths powers moron :sdo:

The seals themselves are clearly stated to be Six Paths powers.

that's right...ps you might wanna reference that shikamaru hidan you keep bringing up....CLEARLY STATING THAT NARUTO HAS HAGOROMO'S CHAKRA EVEN NOW...nice job of owning yourself you fake ass sage...lmaooo good riddence

That's not what's stated. It's stated that Naruto possesses Hagoromo's power because of the Biju. Nowhere does it mention Hagoromo's chakra.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Not once did I say that Hagoromo gave Naruto Biju chakra.

Naruto isn't a jinchuriki for all of the Biju. He physically only has 1 full Biju in him which is Kurama and remnants of the other 8. He couldn't use the power of the other 8 Biju before meeting Hagoromo.

how the hell is @ bold possible?...hagoromo had nothing to do with the tailed beasts after all...that was all obito's doing...even if you have a portion of tailed beast chakra YOU CAN STILL WIELD IT...see the shinobi alliance.

The Biju physically manifested because Hagoromo was there. Hagoromo wasn't surprised at anything.

bullshit...especially since the tailed beasts manifested themselves before and hagoromo wasn't even there :sdo: see chapter 572

I don't know whether you're serious or you're just intentionally being retarded, but either way this is a simple concept.

Before meeting Hagoromo, the chakra of the other 8 Biju were inert & Naruto couldn't use any of their powers.
After meeting Hagoromo, the other 8 Biju finally manifested and Naruto could use their powers.

nice conjunction fallacy...until kishimoto DIRECTLY STATES (which he hasen't and you will never find a manga panel stating this) that these 2 situations are linked then you have no argument...especially seeing as how kishimoto states THE OPPOSITE

Was Naruto able to use the powers of the other 8 Biju before meeting Hagoromo? That's the only question that you need to answer.

^^^ see above comment...also the tailed beasts have nothing to do with six paths sage mode so there is no point in bringing them up...if naruto did not use 1 tailed beast power from chapter 673 to 699 would he still be in six paths sage mode? :sdo:

Naruto is clearly stated to be a "human pillar for the power of the Ten Tails". What does the Ten Tails give it's jinchuriki? I know this must be very difficult for you to comprehend.

meaning he still has the chakra of all 9 tailed beasts...where does shikamaru hiden state that THIS was the reason for naruto's six paths sage mode??? :sdo: it stated NOTHING about six paths sage mode...AT ALL

It states that Naruto has Hagoromo's power, just like every other Ten Tails' jinchuriki does, not Hagoromo's specific chakra. Stop wasting time with the pointless lying.

WRONG...it states that naruto is the human pillar of the ten tails...and he even has some of hagoromo's power even now...I guess by your logic everyone who has the rinnegan also must be a semi-jinchuriki :sdo: ****TARD

The seals themselves are clearly stated to be Six Paths powers.

^^^ what kind of six paths powers do they hold oh mighty know-it-all?

That's not what's stated. It's stated that Naruto possesses Hagoromo's power because of the Biju. Nowhere does it mention Hagoromo's chakra.

nice job of getting owned and backtracking you ****boy...try pointing out @ bold line for line from the novel right now cause NO WHERE did it state that...lolololololol

also I LOVE how you stopped bringing up hagoromo's chakra= rinnegan now

 

[TheSages456]

how the hell is @ bold possible?...hagoromo had nothing to do with the tailed beasts after all...that was all obito's doing...even if you have a portion of tailed beast chakra YOU CAN STILL WIELD IT...see the shinobi alliance.

Nope, Naruto was not able to utilize the powers of the Biju until after he met Hagoromo. If you want to claim that Naruto could have used Kokuo's Boil release and Son's Lava release before that, then you would have to show him doing so.

bullshit...especially since the tailed beasts manifested themselves before and hagoromo wasn't even there :sdo: see chapter 572

You really have no idea what you are talking about. In that chapter, Naruto entered the consciousness of the Biju. It was a shared mental space between multiple separate entities.
That isn't the same as the Biju physically manifesting inside his own body from their chakra remnants.

nice conjunction fallacy...until kishimoto DIRECTLY STATES (which he hasen't and you will never find a manga panel stating this) that these 2 situations are linked then you have no argument...especially seeing as how kishimoto states THE OPPOSITE

Nope. You're just in denial at this point. The fact that Hagoromo's calling stimulated the other 6 Biju to manifest in physical form means that all of the Biju there manifested because Hagoromo was there.

^^^ see above comment...also the tailed beasts have nothing to do with six paths sage mode so there is no point in bringing them up...if naruto did not use 1 tailed beast power from chapter 673 to 699 would he still be in six paths sage mode? :sdo:



meaning he still has the chakra of all 9 tailed beasts...where does shikamaru hiden state that THIS was the reason for naruto's six paths sage mode??? :sdo: it stated NOTHING about six paths sage mode...AT ALL

What sort of incoherent nonsense is this?

You were already proven wrong on the Biju having nothing to do with Six Paths Sage mode multiple times.

If Naruto is in Six Paths Sage mode, then by default, that requires him to channel the power of the Biju. He can choose whether or not he uses the Biju's specific chakra natures in his attacks if he pleases.

"Naruto, who’d taken the bijuu into him as well, had some of the Sage’s power even now."

That statement links the Biju to the Sage's power that he is stated to possess.
Don't make an even bigger fool of yourself and say that it doesn't, because then I'm just going to assume that you're incapable of understanding English.

WRONG...it states that naruto is the human pillar of the ten tails...and he even has some of hagoromo's power even now...I guess by your logic everyone who has the rinnegan also must be a semi-jinchuriki :sdo: ****TARD

What? Six Paths senjutsu is one of the powers that Hagoromo possesses. The Rinnegan is another power that he possesses. Both the Rinnegan & Six Paths senjutsu are stated to be Hagoromo's power.

Taking in the power of all Biju is one way that's stated and shown to obtain Six Paths senjutsu, which is indeed Hagoromo's power.

^^^ what kind of six paths powers do they hold oh mighty know-it-all?

They possess the Six Paths Yin & Yang chakra which combine in order to execute Six Paths CT you illiterate clown. :lol

nice job of getting owned and backtracking you ****boy...try pointing out @ bold line for line from the novel right now cause NO WHERE did it state that...lolololololol

also I LOVE how you stopped bringing up hagoromo's chakra= rinnegan now

You keep posting this idiocy in order to give your post the illusion of having merit. You lied about what was stated, because the term "Hagoromo's chakra" was used nowhere in that novel.

"Naruto, who’d taken the bijuu into him as well, had some of the Sage’s power even now." That's the exact quote from the novel that I'm showing you again.

Not sure what you mean by the bold, but you still haven't countered that point, which means that you can't.
You can't refute Hagoromo's own statement which states that recreating his chakra produces the Rinnegan and Naruto not having the Rinnegan means that he doesn't possess the chakra that is stated to automatically give this power.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Nope, Naruto was not able to utilize the powers of the Biju until after he met Hagoromo. If you want to claim that Naruto could have used Kokuo's Boil release and Son's Lava release before that, then you would have to show him doing so.

absence of evidence is not evidence of absense...thats a conjunction fallacy...by your logic all jinchuriki need six path chakra to use tailed beast powers.

You really have no idea what you are talking about. In that chapter, Naruto entered the consciousness of the Biju. It was a shared mental space between multiple separate entities.
That isn't the same as the Biju physically manifesting inside his own body from their chakra remnants.

actually it's the same damn thing...why do you think the 1 and 8 tails were missing from that sequence? :sdo:

Nope. You're just in denial at this point. The fact that Hagoromo's calling stimulated the other 6 Biju to manifest in physical form means that all of the Biju there manifested because Hagoromo was there.

bullshit conjunction fallacy...especially since 3 tailed beasts manifested themselves without hagoromo doing or saying a damn thing.

What sort of incoherent nonsense is this? You were already proven wrong on the Biju having nothing to do with Six Paths Sage mode multiple times.

actually the opposite is true...boy

If Naruto is in Six Paths Sage mode, then by default, that requires him to channel the power of the Biju. He can choose whether or not he uses the Biju's specific chakra natures in his attacks if he pleases.

that's not what kishimoto wrote...I guess (by your own dumbass logic) hagoromo himself had to be the jinchuriki of ten tails to use his own senjutsu correct?

"Naruto, who’d taken the bijuu into him as well, had some of the Sage’s power even now."

That statement links the Biju to the Sage's power that he is stated to possess.

it's impossible for the tailed beast to be the sage's power...especially since he and his brother were bothing using six paths senjutsu before the ten tails even existed...that ends this bullshit argument :sdo:

Don't make an even bigger fool of yourself and say that it doesn't, because then I'm just going to assume that you're incapable of understanding English.

you took the words write off my keyboard...boy

What? Six Paths senjutsu is one of the powers that Hagoromo possesses. The Rinnegan is another power that he possesses. Both the Rinnegan & Six Paths senjutsu are stated to be Hagoromo's power.

which means naruto has hagoromo's chakra...you defeat your own argument (once again)

Taking in the power of all Biju is one way that's stated and shown to obtain Six Paths senjutsu, which is indeed Hagoromo's power.

this ends this conversation then :sdo:

They possess the Six Paths Yin & Yang chakra which combine in order to execute Six Paths CT you illiterate clown. :lol

@ bold stop stealing my lines fool...also six paths yin and yang chakra DOES WHAT EXACTLY?...if you admit they just create a massive moon in the sky when combined then you have no ****ing argument :sdo:

You keep posting this idiocy in order to give your post the illusion of having merit. You lied about what was stated, because the term "Hagoromo's chakra" was used nowhere in that novel.

WHAT DID HAGOROMO GIVE NARUTO WHEN THEY TOUCHED HANDS IN CHAPTER 671???...it damn sure couldn't be the chakra of tailed beasts since they were ALREADY THERE...go ahead and answer that BOY

"Naruto, who’d taken the bijuu into him as well, had some of the Sage’s power even now." That's the exact quote from the novel that I'm showing you again.

the chakra of the tailed beasts is not the sage's power...if you claim it is then I can give you 1000 reasons why the manga disagrees

Not sure what you mean by the bold, but you still haven't countered that point, which means that you can't.
You can't refute Hagoromo's own statement which states that recreating his chakra produces the Rinnegan and Naruto not having the Rinnegan means that he doesn't possess the chakra that is stated to automatically give this power.

already did...you just have a 1.0 IQ which means I have to spell it out for you...and rememeber this is your own ***** ass logic:

rinnegan= hagoromo chakra

naruto= no rinnegan...yet has six paths senjutsu?...lololololol

shikamaru hiden= 9 tailed beasts= hagoromo's powers...

all rinnegan users= semi-ten tails jinchuriki...THIS IS YOUR LOGIC BOY

 

[Edogawa]

TheSages456,

Naruto's Rikudou Mode doesn't combine 9 Biju's Chakra simultaneously, except Kurama since Naruto is the Jinchuriki for it. Naruto uses Biju's Chakra separately from Rikudou's Chakra. [

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[TheSages456]

absence of evidence is not evidence of absense...thats a conjunction fallacy...by your logic all jinchuriki need six path chakra to use tailed beast powers.

Ok then. No evidence from your side that he could have used their powers and there isn't anything in the manga that would imply this either.

You saying the bold simply shows your lack of competence. Hagoromo is the reason why the chakra remnants inside Naruto's body manifested into the Biju themselves. The chakra remnants responded to his presence. Nowhere does this imply that a jinchuriki needs Six Paths chakra to use the abilities of their Biju. That's just stupidity.

actually it's the same damn thing...why do you think the 1 and 8 tails were missing from that sequence? :sdo:

Because physical contact was only being made through Biju's 2-7 and 9. No, the other Biju were not physically manifesting inside Naruto at that time, so the situations aren't the same.

You would have to be a complete idiot to think that the Biju were physically residing in Naruto's body in chapter 572.

bullshit conjunction fallacy...especially since 3 tailed beasts manifested themselves without hagoromo doing or saying a damn thing.

When Hagoromo called for the Biju, they manifested, thus Hagoromo is the reason that all of the Biju did so, regardless if he specifically said their name or not. Not that hard to understand.

Before Hagoromo, the chakra is inert.
After Hagoromo, Naruto can completely utlilize all of the Biju's chakras.

that's not what kishimoto wrote...I guess (by your own dumbass logic) hagoromo himself had to be the jinchuriki of ten tails to use his own senjutsu correct?

Hagoromo naturally possesses the Six Paths chakra, which he mixes with natural energy to form the Six Paths Sage chakra.

Becoming a Ten Tails' jinchuriki grants the same chakra type, which is Six Paths Sage chakra.

it's impossible for the tailed beast to be the sage's power...especially since he and his brother were bothing using six paths senjutsu before the ten tails even existed...that ends this bullshit argument :sdo:

This makes no sense. It's blatantly stated and shown that the power of all the Biju grants Six Paths Senjutsu, the same power that Hagoromo has.

which means naruto has hagoromo's chakra...you defeat your own argument (once again)

Naruto possesses Six Paths Senjutsu due to the Biju & Hagoromo naturally possesses the Six Paths chakra. It's 2 different means of getting the same result. Hagoromo's chakra contains the Rinnegan's power while the chakra of the Biju does not.
Doesn't mean that both can't produce Six Paths Sage chakra.

@ bold stop stealing my lines fool...also six paths yin and yang chakra DOES WHAT EXACTLY?...if you admit they just create a massive moon in the sky when combined then you have no ****ing argument :sdo:

The chakra is used to execute Six Paths CT which is a jutsu.
I'm not sure if you know this, but chakra is used to execute jutsus. :lol
The chakra from the seal can also be drawn upon to enhance the wielders techniques.

WHAT DID HAGOROMO GIVE NARUTO WHEN THEY TOUCHED HANDS IN CHAPTER 671???...it damn sure couldn't be the chakra of tailed beasts since they were ALREADY THERE...go ahead and answer that BOY

He gave him the Yang seal. Not sure how you would interpret otherwise. He told both Naruto & Sasuke to hold out their dominant hand and when they woke up, the seals were on their dominant hand. You would have to be absolutely retarded to think otherwise.

the chakra of the tailed beasts is not the sage's power...if you claim it is then I can give you 1000 reasons why the manga disagrees

You had the chance and you've failed to give even 1, so this is just going to be written off as you talking out of your ass as usual.
Your personal reasons for why you believe what you do are irrelevant. Post a statement from official material or concede.

already did...you just have a 1.0 IQ which means I have to spell it out for you...and rememeber this is your own ***** ass logic:

rinnegan= hagoromo chakra

naruto= no rinnegan...yet has six paths senjutsu?...lololololol

shikamaru hiden= 9 tailed beasts= hagoromo's powers...

all rinnegan users= semi-ten tails jinchuriki...THIS IS YOUR LOGIC BOY

I didn't think that you would be this stupid.

A Ten Tails' jinchuriki is stated to possess Hagoromo's power since they possess the same senjutsu. They possess the same senjutsu because they both possess the Six Paths Sage chakra.

Hagoromo's own chakra, carries the Rinnegan's power. The chakra of the Ten Tails does not. This was stated by Hagoromo himself. I have no idea how you're trying to contest a statement from Hagoromo himself yet claim that you 100% follow the manga. Makes no sense.

Hagoromo & a Ten Tails' jinchuriki possess the same chakra type which is Six Paths Sage chakra.
All Biju possess Tailed Beast chakra. They all share a chakra type but certain Biju possess certain kekkei genkai that the others do not have.

 

[TheSages456]

TheSages456,

Naruto's Rikudou Mode doesn't combine 9 Biju's Chakra simultaneously, except Kurama since Naruto is the Jinchuriki for it. Naruto uses Biju's Chakra separately from Rikudou's Chakra. [

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He asked for Kurama's chakra for Bijudama Rasenshuriken, so that obviously isn't the case.

All that was stated is that the Naruto possesses Hagoromo's power due to being a human pillar for the power of all the Biju. Any explanation on how it works specifically is head-canon.

 

[NarutoX28]

He asked for Kurama's chakra for Bijudama Rasenshuriken, so that obviously isn't the case.

All that was stated is that the Naruto possesses Hagoromo's power due to being a human pillar for the power of all the Biju. Any explanation on how it works specifically is head-canon.

That was their first time performing the technique. Every time afterwards, he was never required to communicate with Yin Kurama like he did with the other Bijuu. I don't ever recall it ever being stated that Rikudou Senjutsu was a byproduct of having the power of all Bijuu.

 

[Edogawa]

He asked for Kurama's chakra for Bijudama Rasenshuriken, so that obviously isn't the case.

All that was stated is that the Naruto possesses Hagoromo's power due to being a human pillar for the power of all the Biju. Any explanation on how it works specifically is head-canon.

He asked for Yin Kurama's Chakra, since that's their first time in partnership.

You're trying to reword the manga to satisfy your lie. The manga has said and shown the 8 Biju's Chakra that Naruto uses are separate from each other and from his Rikudou mode. Just as Shukaku says to Naruto, ''Use my Chakra...'' - if your claim is true, that Naruto's Rikudou mode is a result of the Biju's Chakra, then Naruto would not need to ask the Biju to borrow their Chakra. This proves it's completely separate from the Rikudou mode.

Rikudou mode which Naruto uses is a result of Hagoromo transferring his Senjutsu Chakra to Naruto.

If you are not convinced, I can gladly show you manga pages.

 

[Black Wizard]

Too be honest SPSM, has not been fully explained because I don't even think the Databook has been fully translated only some of it has, if someone does have full translation then that would be useful

 

[Black Wizard]

It said in the Databook that it's a gift from the sage of six paths, I don't really know if the tailed beasts are fundamental part of it however, there is also evidence that the tailed beasts are a part it. It's quite a confusing topic which needs to come to a conclusion hopefully the boruto manga or some other material can explain it properly

 

[TheSages456]

He asked for Yin Kurama's Chakra, since that's their first time in partnership.

You're trying to reword the manga to satisfy your lie. The manga has said and shown the 8 Biju's Chakra that Naruto uses are separate from each other and from his Rikudou mode. Just as Shukaku says to Naruto, ''Use my Chakra...'' - if your claim is true, that Naruto's Rikudou mode is a result of the Biju's Chakra, then Naruto would not need to ask the Biju to borrow their Chakra. This proves it's completely separate from the Rikudou mode.

Rikudou mode which Naruto uses is a result of Hagoromo transferring his Senjutsu Chakra to Naruto.

If you are not convinced, I can gladly show you manga pages.

Absolutely no evidence whatsoever for the bold. Naruto's Six Paths Sage mode always requires him to use Kurama's chakra hence the fox slits, yet still needed to ask Kurama for chakra.

As I said before, all that was stated officially is that the Biju are responsible for Naruto possessing Hagoromo's power. You claiming that it's invalid because of your speculation about variable X is mere head-canon. Nothing stated anywhere about his form being a byproduct of a limited chakra handout.

Obito awakened Six Paths senjutsu from the Ten Tails' power, yet the Ten Tails' Bijudama that he used contained no senjutsu. By your logic this would imply that the power of the Ten Tails is unrelated to the senjutsu that Obito awakened.

 

[Edogawa]

Absolutely no evidence whatsoever for the bold. Naruto's Six Paths Sage mode always requires him to use Kurama's chakra hence the fox slits, yet still needed to ask Kurama for chakra.

Do I actually need evidence that Yin Kurama and Naruto just started to work with each other? I don't think I need that.

As I said before, all that was stated officially is that the Biju are responsible for Naruto possessing Hagoromo's power. You claiming that it's invalid because of your speculation about variable X is mere head-canon. Nothing stated anywhere about his form being a byproduct of a limited chakra handout.

You're wrong again. [

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Answer my question: Why does Naruto ask for Biju's Chakra separately if his Rikudou is directly from theirs?

Obito awakened Six Paths senjutsu from the Ten Tails' power, yet the Ten Tails' Bijudama that he used contained no senjutsu. By your logic this would imply that the power of the Ten Tails is unrelated to the senjutsu that Obito awakened.

That will then mean inconsistency in the manga. Not to mention this example has no relations to this argument.