Situation Reversal: MS Sasuke and Sage Mode Naruto

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Naruto would have struggled a bit, but would beat Danzo. !! :whip:


Sasuke on the other hand, well... No chance against Pain... !! :whip:

Naruto might have beaten Danzo, not really sure about that one.

Sasuke would be smashed by Pain, Sasuke has no chance at all at beating Pain.

Naruto wins, Sasuke loses

Naruto struggles, but pulls out a win in the end.
Sasuke dies, he doesn't have enough in him to take down all six pains

i cant believe all this hate.

Sasuke has shown to be way ahead of naruto in terms of battle exp.

If he had knowledge he wouldnt do as bad as most think

MS sasuke is better than SM naruto.

Naruto would lose badly to danzo, dont see how anyone could say otherwise.
 

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Naruto vs Danzo:

If KA is not able to be used, I can see Naruto winning this high diff. While Sage Mode is a boost, I believe the Izanagi, powerful wind bullets, and that seal he has will provide Naruto with significant issues. Naruto's saving grace will be clones and sheer will power.

There's a slight chance of the Kyuubi exerting slight influence over Naruto, if he can not break out of the seal with will power. But I do not foresee Kurama getting more than a tail or two out of Naruto.

Sasuke vs Pein:

Sasuke won't be winning this. Just saying that right now. If it's the same conditions as the Naruto vs Pein fight, he loses.
The Preta Path pretty much counters a majority of his more powerful ninjutsu, while the Asura Path can overwhelm him in close range. Let's not forget about the multitude of powerful summonings the Animal Path can unleash.

The Human, Deva, and Naraka paths will pretty much be used for extra vision. A massive advantage as Sasuke would find it even harder to fight his enemies. If Sasuke lasts as long as Naruto, the Deva Path will end this fight.

The Deva Path will no doubt drag Sasuke closer to the Asura and Preta Paths'. And himself, as he would be needed near them. But the Preta Path could then take hold of Sasuke and begin to drain his lasting reserves. Even IF Sasuke manages to pull some sneaky Kunai to the head or something to the Preta Path, the Asura Path will be on him.

And his chakra will be even lower then before. And a medium strength Shinra Tensei will send Sasuke flying away, much like Gamabunta. Susano'o or no Susano'o, Sasuke is getting wrecked.

Pein mid diff.
 

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The way I see it:

Sasuke beats Pain mid difficulty.
Danzo beats Naruto high difficulty.

This is exactly what i hate from my fellow sasuke fans, no arguments at all, and even if you did, you wouldve something along the lines of ''ameterasu gg''.

On the other hand, in naruto's situation, i say its a really, really high diff for sasuke due to one bonus for him: deva is useless for a set amount of time, which means thats the hardest path down in a one-shot. Tell me now one way any of the paths are avoiding ama when we have only seen V1 A legit dodge it (from sasuke). The other paths, bar animal, are bacon, but both asura and animal will more than likely require ama, others are beaten through melee combat, and susanoo.

Taking into account none of the paths have speed feats to dodge ama, and deva is done for the start of the battle, they lose as soon as deva is down, as none of them have the required raw power to pull through susanoo.
 

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Naruto vs Danzo:

If KA is not able to be used, I can see Naruto winning this high diff. While Sage Mode is a boost, I believe the Izanagi, powerful wind bullets, and that seal he has will provide Naruto with significant issues. Naruto's saving grace will be clones and sheer will power.

There's a slight chance of the Kyuubi exerting slight influence over Naruto, if he can not break out of the seal with will power. But I do not foresee Kurama getting more than a tail or two out of Naruto.

Sasuke vs Pein:

Sasuke won't be winning this. Just saying that right now. If it's the same conditions as the Naruto vs Pein fight, he loses.
The Preta Path pretty much counters a majority of his more powerful ninjutsu, while the Asura Path can overwhelm him in close range. Let's not forget about the multitude of powerful summonings the Animal Path can unleash.


The Human, Deva, and Naraka paths will pretty much be used for extra vision. A massive advantage as Sasuke would find it even harder to fight his enemies. If Sasuke lasts as long as Naruto, the Deva Path will end this fight.

The Deva Path will no doubt drag Sasuke closer to the Asura and Preta Paths'. And himself, as he would be needed near them. But the Preta Path could then take hold of Sasuke and begin to drain his lasting reserves. Even IF Sasuke manages to pull some sneaky Kunai to the head or something to the Preta Path, the Asura Path will be on him.

And his chakra will be even lower then before. And a medium strength Shinra Tensei will send Sasuke flying away, much like Gamabunta. Susano'o or no Susano'o, Sasuke is getting wrecked.

Pein mid diff.

Asura Path overwhelm a Susanoo user in close range? You have to be joking..... Not to mention absolutely NONE of these paths can dodge a Susanoo arrow, meaning that any path that isn't Preta is getting killed by it as Preta (nor does any other path) have the speed necessary to dodge an arrow, not when Kakashi even with his Sharingan pre-cog had to use Kamui to warp it
both times. Preta can't save the other paths by jumping in the way of the arrow as it lacks the speed to do so.

Animal Path summionings can literally do nothing to harm Sasuke while Susanoo is up and will vanish once an arrow kills Animal Path.

With intel on their abilities, Deva dies first which pretty much solidifies Sasuke's victory.
 
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Technically naruto didn't beat pain, he got saved by the kyuubi. So we can reverse it fully and have sasuke saved by something itachi did to him :)
 

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This is exactly what i hate from my fellow sasuke fans, no arguments at all, and even if you did, you wouldve something along the lines of ''ameterasu gg''.

On the other hand, in naruto's situation, i say its a really, really high diff for sasuke due to one bonus for him: deva is useless for a set amount of time, which means thats the hardest path down in a one-shot. Tell me now one way any of the paths are avoiding ama when we have only seen V1 A legit dodge it (from sasuke). The other paths, bar animal, are bacon, but both asura and animal will more than likely require ama, others are beaten through melee combat, and susanoo.

Taking into account none of the paths have speed feats to dodge ama, and deva is done for the start of the battle, they lose as soon as deva is down, as none of them have the required raw power to pull through susanoo.
Sasuke>Itachi

Itachi beat EDO pain.

Sasuke>Pain.
 

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Jeez Nardo lost to Pain and got bailed out by Kurama, but Sasuke pwned Danzo's million lives with his Susanoo.

At best MS Sasuke would have struggled a bit against Pein, but he would win nevertheless, as all he had to do is take down the Pein that has the revival path. Pein doesn't have crap to avoid amaterasu, let alone Susanoo.

Just add Sasuke's genjutsu into the equation and you have a one-sided fight :rolleyes:

Naruto with his dumb brains has no chance against Danzo.
 
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Jeez Nardo lost to Pain and got bailed out by Kurama, but Sasuke pwned Danzo's million lives with his Susanoo.

At best MS Sasuke would have struggled a bit against Pein, but he would win nevertheless.

Naruto with his dumb brains has no chance against Danzo.

Chibaku tensei and sasuke is dead, amaterasu is a nonfactor because nagato can sense it, if anything sasuke dies even faster than naruto would have.
 

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Sasuke would lose badly. Pein was trying to capture Naruto, not kill him. And Naruto still had to go into 8tails to survive.

Naruto would win with more difficulty then Ms Sasuke (not in ninetails mode), unless Danzo is able to you KA. Then Danzo wins
 

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Sasuke>Itachi

Itachi beat EDO pain.

Sasuke>Pain.

Not true, he beat edo nagato who was controlled by the rinnegan novice kabuto, and it was 3 on 1, nagato would not go down so easily were it a true 1 on 1, and funny how you claim naruto didn't beat pein yet you say nagato lost to itachi.
 

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They both lose......

Naruto cant counter izanagi, he is only in sage mode x 3, no genjutsu
Sasuke cannot Tnj, and since he is not main character first 3 pains wont stand there waiting for his attacks to be launched before moving.
 

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Susano'o Arrows and Amaterasu are faster then any of the Pain's. With knowledge, he will aim for Deva and Naraka and that can't be absorbed due to speed. Deva can't reflect because he just used Chou Shinra Tensei on the Hidden Leaf. The Animal, Human, Asura and Preta. Sasuke can use Amaterasu and kill them all if he wants. This is in his play style as well so it's no absurd. Seems odd but Sasuke could win Low-Mid Diff.

Naruto would have trouble against Izanagi and probably not deduce it like Sasuke did. He doesn't need Karin as he is an Uzumaki. With Obito stopping the use of Kotamatsukami, Naruto through Kage Bunshin and Brute Power will defeat Danzo, extremely High-Diff.
 
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Chibaku tensei and sasuke is dead, amaterasu is a nonfactor because nagato can sense it, if anything sasuke dies even faster than naruto would have.

Chibaku Tensei? How is Deva going to use Chibaku Tensei when his powers have to recharge. This is based on the same situation Naruto was in the manga. How is Deva going to use CT when a Susanoo arrow that none of the paths can react to gets sent flying through his body? Oh wait, he's not.

Nagato can't sense chakra through his Pain bodies. He can only sense chakra through his own body as Outer Path transfers Rinnegan abilities to the bodies, nothing more.

Not to mention CT can't be used against Sasuke as he is in Naruto's situation, fighting to capture not kill. You people really need to read the OP.
 
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Chibaku Tensei? How is Deva going to use Chibaku Tensei when his powers have to recharge. This is based on the same situation Naruto was in the manga. How is Deva going to use CT when a Susanoo arrow that none of the paths can react to gets sent flying through his body? Oh wait, he's not.

Nagato can't sense chakra through his Pain bodies. He can only sense chakra through his own body as Outer Path transfers Rinnegan abilities to the bodies, nothing more.

Preta path absorbs... He came back from the dead and hopped in front of the rasenshuriken. The arrow shows no speed feats as Kakashi warped it at point blank range. Sasuke can't hold out against the constant bombardment.
 

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Preta path absorbs... He came back from the dead and hopped in front of the rasenshuriken. The arrow shows no speed feats as Kakashi warped it at point blank range. Sasuke can't hold out against the constant bombardment.

Slap yourself incredibly hard for this post. Do me a favor and read the manga or watch the anime correctly.

Arrow was too fast for Danzo to make the hand signs for Izanagi.

Danzo: "That was too fast"


Kakashi had to warp it with Kamui.


"That was TOO FAST My only option was to warp it with the Mangekyo"

If Kakashi couldn't dodge it Preta isn't jumping in the way and NO path is evading it, Deva dies from the start which solidifies Sasuke's victory.

Constant bombardment? Of what? Animal Summons that can take an arrow to the eye? Asura Path which gets wrecked in CQC by Susanoo? Worthless in this battle Naraka and Human Paths? Powerless Deva who gets one shotted from the start?

The only problem is Preta Path, once the other paths have falling, Sasuke takes out his sword and molests Preta Path.
 
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Sasuke can beat six paths of pain.

Deva path will not be able to use his powers in starting of fight (same thing happen with naruto)

Sasuke one shot every other path with susano arrows and amaterasu .

After that, it would be deva path vs sasuke.

Now all sasuke has to use amaterasu on deva path twice. He will be able to deflect it once and then there would be five sec gap. Sasuke can spam all his shit in this gap and kill deva path before it uses chibaku tensei.

If say, deva path uses chibaku tensei, Sasuke can summon snakes and hide inside their mouth(like what he did in deidara fight). Snakes can go underground too quickly , so this should help sasuke.
But chibaku tensei has very good gravitational attraction so its possible snake might get pulled even if they are underground, but this should not effect sasuke(since he is in body of snake) and only the snake will get harm.

i think sasuke wins if he takes out deva path before it uses chibaku tensei.
 
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