[Theory] Shunsui will die

[Phoenix110]

I think he's not gonna die

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Soul King is dead bro, and you think 0 division will just play around without doing their best at a time like this? They did everything they can and were annihilated by elites. Jugo's strength is only next to Bach and he's portrayed to be someone that will eventually become next emperor. It's extremely unlikely to think that he's weaker than elites. Ishida and Jugo are clearly above elites according to portrayal.



It doesn't matter if his bankai is haxed. He clearly admitted that he's inferior to the members of 0 division so there is no denying it.




No, he never said that, it's just a rumour as far as I know. Aizen already defeated Kyoraku and other cap's without even trying in his shikai.So I don't think his bankai is stronger then Aizens.



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]This page alone is more than enough to say that they were annihilated.

Well first off the sword creator guy look like he was done for after being shot a couple of times I an see him not being able to use his full power as for the others idk an ichibei was fighting Bach so it was really only three that could actually use full power against the elite Quincy an we really don't know if they did or not...just because he's next in line to take bach's spot don't means he's close in strenght to him like uryu is.

He did not say they were stronger than him in a one on one fight he said their strenght together is stronger than the whole ss combine...key word "together" not individualy he could probly beat a certain one of them in a one on one or come close with his strange abilities.

Yea that's his shikai that aizen defeated not his bankai he could not use his bankai well ukitake did not want him to use his bankai with to many of his comrades around cuz it was that dangerous an they should not see it...an I don't believe aizen even has a bankai.

 

[A v i]

Well first off the sword creator guy look like he was done for after being shot a couple of times I an see him not being able to use his full power as for the others idk an ichibei was fighting Bach so it was really only three that could actually use full power against the elite Quincy an we really don't know if they did or not.

One of elites easily beat the living hell out of him. Two of other RG's tried to protect him yet they failed stop the incoming attack of one of elite solders means that they have no hope against Elites. If they didn't went to help SK even when he's in danger then it means that they were defeated. It's that simple and the manga conformed it. You can think whatever you want but the fact remains the same.

just because he's next in line to take bach's spot don't means he's close in strenght to him like uryu is.

Nah, Man if there is someone more capable than Jugo then that guy'll be the next emperor. Same thing happened with Ishida. Why do you think Yhwach decided to announce Ishida as next emperor? Because he has the potential to surpass Yhwach. Means that one day he'll be stronger than him. It proves that strength is the main aspect that they'd look at while choosing next emperor. So if everyone considers Jugo to be next Emperor then it means that he's the closest to Yhwach in terms of strength.

He did not say they were stronger than him in a one on one fight he said their strenght together is stronger than the whole ss combine...key word "together" not individualy he could probly beat a certain one of them in a one on one or come close with his strange abilities.

Your logic is correct but it can't be applied to Kyoraku as he was having problems against one of lower ranked quincy.At first elites were easily annihilated by 0 division. Even that version of Elites were stronger than Kyoraku's opponent. No matter how badly you look at it. Kyoraku can't make it up to Jugo. The best I can see is Kyoraku beating one of elites (No power up) with his bakai.

Jugo > current elites > 0 Division > Elites without power up >/= Kyoraku bankai > Lower ranked quincy.

Yea that's his shikai that aizen defeated not his bankai he could not use his bankai well ukitake did not want him to use his bankai with to many of his comrades around cuz it was that dangerous an they should not see it...an I don't believe aizen even has a bankai.

I'd suggest you to reread every panel that involves Aizen or at least try to read his wiki page for a quick reference. For starters ,Aizen reached his peak as a shinigami which is why he went after other powers such as hollowfication etc. For a shinigami reaching his peak means achieving the bankai's full power. If the gap b/w their shikai is that big then the gap b/w their Bankai's will be more or less same.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

One of elites easily beat the living hell out of him. Two of other RG's tried to protect him yet they failed stop the incoming attack of one of elite solders means that they have no hope against Elites. If they didn't went to help SK even when he's in danger then it means that they were defeated. It's that simple and the manga conformed it. You can think whatever you want but the fact remains the same.




Nah, Man if there is someone more capable than Jugo then that guy'll be the next emperor. Same thing happened with Ishida. Why do you think Yhwach decided to announce Ishida as next emperor? Because he has the potential to surpass Yhwach. Means that one day he'll be stronger than him. It proves that strength is the main aspect that they'd look at while choosing next emperor. So if everyone considers Jugo to be next Emperor then it means that he's the closest to Yhwach in terms of strength.




Your logic is correct but it can't be applied to Kyoraku as he was having problems against one of lower ranked quincy.At first elites were easily annihilated by 0 division. Even that version of Elites were stronger than Kyoraku's opponent. No matter how badly you look at it. Kyoraku can't make it up to Jugo. The best I can see is Kyoraku beating one of elites (No power up) with his bakai.

Jugo > current elites > 0 Division > Elites without power up >/= Kyoraku bankai > Lower ranked quincy.



I'd suggest you to reread every panel that involves Aizen or at least try to read his wiki page for a quick reference. For starters ,Aizen reached his peak as a shinigami which is why he went after other powers such as hollowfication etc. For a shinigami reaching his peak means achieving the bankai's full power. If the gap b/w their shikai is that big then the gap b/w their Bankai's will be more or less same.

Yea thoes shots caught him off guard he did not know what to expect an he was all beat up so if he did have more power to use it would have been hard to use it in that state so if he was beaten an did not use full power yet then the same can be said for the other RG members,just because they could not stop his attack does not mean they can't beat him they won't even useing bankai at that moment...an yea I know they were defeated alot of the people that aizen defeated also did not use bankai when they should've.

Naw all I remember is Bach saying uryu can surpass him not jugram....lol jugram won't even able to steal Yama bankai so I know he's not close to Bach.

Well first off kyoraku was about to end that Quincy life fast but thanks to his vollstanding he was able to survive an he shot kyoraku right in the face an kyoraku stayed on his feet an still contuined fighting....second kyoraky shikai was not good for Ann opponent like him cuz he's long range I don't remember kyoraku use anyone if his shikai abilities to be exact....an like I said before Yama saying that ukitake an kyoraku,when fighting together are stronger than anyone to come before an ever sense speaks volumes about their power so one if them alone should be very strong if use their full power....naw I see kyoraku having to go bankai against one of the elites but not have to use its full power if they are not useing vollstanding.

Naw by peak I think he meant physicaly he wanted to be stronger physicaly.