Show me a Manga page that says Susanoo requires Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi!

[rollin]

i think you have to have a genjutsu in one eye and a ninjutsu in the other eye for susano'o
like if obito had both of his eyes it wouldn't work because both eyes are kamui or if shisui had both eyes it wouldn't work because both of his eyes have kotoamatsukami

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

And trying to hide the fact that Sasuke might have a jutsu other than Tsukuyomi was the same thing.

Bro, not acknowledging Kagutsuchi as Sasuke's second MS jutsu is nothing short of sheer stupidity. It's right there in the manga!
He uses his right Mangekyou eye to manipulate the flames, that's his second MS jutsu! Why are people too dumb to see that when it's practically hitting them in the face, and still they ignore it and follow an outdated databook. :sy:

i understand your claim but its not a genjustu(mental world) The blaze release is a ninjutsu that of the physical world why must each bare just one jutsu

 

[Rike Senju]

im not trying to insult anyone. Im stating fact.... Because it has not been said anywhere else that susanoos conditions change.


@Draphsin Where does it say you have to use amaterasu and Tsukuyomi in succession before using susanoo. tsukuyomi would not be effective on kage rank in a group. that being said we dont know if amaterasu can be used with the rinnegan activated.

I was talking about the maker of the thread he asks for proof yet he gives none. So far the manga has not contradicted the data book where it states amaterasu and tsukyiomi are needed for susanno. The guy is just full of arrogance. When the manga states those 2 techs are not needed for susanno then his argument will have some ground.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

I was talking about the maker of the thread he asks for proof yet he gives none. So far the manga has not contradicted the data book where it states amaterasu and tsukyiomi are needed for susanno. The guy is just full of arrogance. When the manga states those 2 techs are not needed for susanno then his argument will have some ground.

The manga already stated it! Sasuke said you need a Double Mangekyou during the summit arc and his second MS jutsu is Kasgutsuchi, which completely disproves the databook.

 

[jiraiya lives]

show me a page that says it doesn't

 

[TrollingSage]

And trying to hide the fact that Sasuke might have a jutsu other than Tsukuyomi was the same thing.

Bro, not acknowledging Kagutsuchi as Sasuke's second MS jutsu is nothing short of sheer stupidity. It's right there in the manga!
He uses his right Mangekyou eye to manipulate the flames, that's his second MS jutsu! Why are people too dumb to see that when it's practically hitting them in the face, and still they ignore it and follow an outdated databook. :sy:

Itachi also used a different eye to the one he uses to start amaterasu to control i.e turn it off. Does that mean that's his second MS ability too?

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Itachi also used a different eye to the one he uses to start amaterasu to control i.e turn it off. Does that mean that's his second MS ability too?

Extinguishing the flames and Manipulating them are 2 entirely different things!

show me a page that says it doesn't

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[rollin]

well theres this page but i doesn't say you need them though

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[ajpn920]

Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi are required to obtain Susanoo. Madara displayed Susanoo yet people wants evidence if he has tsukuyomi since the manga didn't show that. But you have to gather pieces of evidence which leads to why he has tsukuyomi. Madara's goal was to cast INFINITE TSUKUYOMI. How can he do that if he can't use tsukuyomi?

Even without manga scan proving that he has tsukuyomi, it's logical to say he has because there is an evidence favoring it. Madara's goal itself is enough to suggest that he has tsukuyomi and it's enough to say that both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi are required to obtain Susanoo.

Edit: what's the difference between AMA and Kagutsuchi? For me they are the same type of fire. I call Kagutsuchi a variation of AMA like space time barrier which comes from the parent jutsu FTG.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi are required to obtain Susanoo. Madara displayed Susanoo yet people wants evidence if he has tsukuyomi since the manga didn't show that. But you have to gather pieces of evidence which leads to why he has tsukuyomi. Madara's goal was to cast INFINITE TSUKUYOMI. How can he do that if he can't use tsukuyomi?

Even without manga scan proving that he has tsukuyomi, it's logical to say he has because there is an evidence favoring it. Madara's goal itself is enough to suggest that he has tsukuyomi and it's enough to say that both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi are required to obtain Susanoo.

He can only do that once he becomes the host of the Juubi. The Juubi has a Sharinnegan, it is the origin of the Sharingan and all it's jutsu! Madara can use them once he becomes the Juubi's Jinchuuriki.

 

[ajpn920]

He can only do that once he becomes the host of the Juubi. The Juubi has a Sharinnegan, it is the origin of the Sharingan and all it's jutsu! Madara can use them once he becomes the Juubi's Jinchuuriki.

Instead of an eye which is used to cast tsukuyomi, Madara will use the Moon. That's why they call it the moon's eye plan. He can't control everybody with just his eyes alone that why INFINITE TSUKUYOMI is needed.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Instead of an eye which is used to cast tsukuyomi, Madara will use the Moon. That's why they call it the moon's eye plan. He can't control everybody with just his eyes alone that why INFINITE TSUKUYOMI is needed.

He will use the Juubi's ocular powers and infinite chakra to make that happen. Madara does not have Amaterasu or Tsukuyomil.

 

[ajpn920]

He will use the Juubi's ocular powers and infinite chakra to make that happen. Madara does not have Amaterasu or Tsukuyomil.

you're saying that the juubi has tsukuyomi? you believe that the juubi has tsukuyomi even though there's no evidence to support that but you are ignoring the databook which can support Madara's word that he will use infinite tsukuyomi.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

you're saying that the juubi has tsukuyomi? you believe that the juubi has tsukuyomi even though there's no evidence to support that but you are ignoring the databook which can support Madara's word that he will use infinite tsukuyomi.

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Not only that, but it has all the ocular jutsu that have ever existed within the Sharingan and the Rinnegan!

The Juubi is a God, the creator of the world!

Go figure

 

[Omnipotent]

*Sigh*
This thread, in and of itself... :|.

 

[ajpn920]

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Not only that, but it has all the ocular jutsu that have ever existed within the Sharingan and the Rinnegan!

The Juubi is a God, the creator of the world!

Go figure

You maybe right but it's just pure speculation. Madara has EMS but you do not believe that he can use tsukuyomi even though he mentioned that he will use infinite tsukuyomi. Madara was able to use susanoo. The databook said Amaterasu + Tsukuyomi= Susanoo. Which do you think is more logical, something made of speculation or something that was backed up by the databook?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't remember Madara saying that he will use juubi's eye to cast infinite tsukuyomi.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

You maybe right but it's just pure speculation. Madara has EMS but you do not believe that he can use tsukuyomi even though he mentioned that he will use infinite tsukuyomi. Madara was able to use susanoo. The databook said Amaterasu + Tsukuyomi= Susanoo. Which do you think is more logical, something made of speculation or something that was backed up by the databook?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't remember Madara saying that he will use juubi's eye to cast infinite tsukuyomi.

He doesn't have to use it's eye, once he seals it inside himself, he'll become just like the SO6P. He'll be able to do anything!

You're just bringing up old and disproved points now, they hold no value. I already showed the majority of the base that the DB is outdated and I showed you how Madara will cast that Genjutsu.

Good day

 

[ajpn920]

He doesn't have to use it's eye, once he seals it inside himself, he'll become just like the SO6P. He'll be able to do anything!

You're just bringing up old and disproved points now, they hold no value. I already showed the majority of the base that the DB is outdated and I showed you how Madara will cast that Genjutsu.

Good day

outdated? this is not about being outdated or not. If you want to prove something then be sure you can support everything you say. As of now, you are just speculating because you cant find it in the manga that Madara is relying on the juubi to be able to use tsukuyomi. Tsukuyomi is part of Madara's arsenal. Hint is given so you should acknowledge it. Databook supports that. So, databook and manga>a mere speculation.

He doesn't have to use it's eye, once he seals it inside himself, he'll become just like the SO6P. He'll be able to do anything!

You are contradicting your own statement. If Madara will not use juubi's eye then you are acknowledging that Madara will use his eye to cast tsukuyomi. LOL

 

[God of TryHards]

I've been commenting and showing proof about this to those who think susanoo requires those two MS abilities. People just don't understand smh...if you're able to look at my past posts through my profile, I tell people pretty much te same thing except I'm too lazy to post managa pages since its so time consuming. If you read the manga you would know what I'm talking about.

Susanoo only requires the mastery of both MS eyes in order for it to unlock. THAT'S IT! People over complicate far too much in this forum.

 

[iSpeak]

Both sides have some reasons to believe it or not so at the moment we won't know for sure if it is required. I have always felt skeptical about this topic.