shouldn't Naruto be able to defeat Sasuke in theory at least

[Jokule67]

- Assumption.
- Kaguya incident (swapping), Sword Incident (swapping), Sasuke teleporting his entire PS as well.
- Kurama can seperate itself from the Gedo once caught? Yeah, good one. Like it did before when Naruto was KO'd, right?
- Yagura and 9 Bijuus turned into core disagree. So, this claim is straight up fiction.
- Where a core was present. Naruto is doing jack-shit when he himself is the core.
- Once the chakra is sucked out? Yeah, he can.

There you go. Please, don't quote me again. I am really not interested in this pointless debate.

And none of what you said is assumption? Sasuke will NEVER be able to beat Naruto as easily as you think. So give up with that. He aleady tried.

 

[Jokule67]

Most of you exaggerate Sasuke and nerf Naruto. Coming up with 1 2 3 steps of how he wins not knowing Naruto wont let it go down like that.

 

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[P Xlad]

- Assumption.
- Kaguya incident (swapping), Sword Incident (swapping), Sasuke teleporting his entire PS as well.
- Kurama can seperate itself from the Gedo once caught? Yeah, good one. Like it did before when Naruto was KO'd, right?
- Yagura and 9 Bijuus turned into core disagree. So, this claim is straight up fiction.
- Where a core was present. Naruto is doing jack-shit when he himself is the core.
- Once the chakra is sucked out? Yeah, he can.

There you go. Please, don't quote me again. I am really not interested in this pointless debate.

Jokule67 Dude probably hasn't read the manga tbh

 

[shelke]

Jokule67 Dude probably hasn't read the manga tbh

Clearly seems that way.

 

[Jokule67]

Clearly seems that way.

All you do is put it in Sasukes favor instead of stopping to see how Naruto can counter it. They are equal. If YOU read the manga you'd know that.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

I see you factored out the fact that Naruto has truth seeking orbs embedded with all chakra natures( including yin yang). Or the fact that he can acquire and use ALL bijuu moves and abilities. Or the fact that his sensing abilities surpass Rinnegan. And after their last fight against their strongest enemy (Kaguya) Naruto was far more versatile than Sasuke was. Naruto can keep up with him with ease now. You are just to blind to see it.

No, I haven't factored out TSBs. They don't add much against a Rikodou level opponent.

I think you're looking at a different implication of versatility. By versatility, I mean... Just look at Adult RSM+BM Naruto and Adult Sasuke. They're both equal in physical parameters like strength and speed. And Sasuke can counter all of Naruto's jutsus with his own jutsus (parallels exist on both sides). But in addition to that, Sasuke also has Rinnegan techs like Six Paths techniques and Ameno which add versatility, not power. Sasuke is exactly equal to Naruto with his Rinnegan techs, and is also equal to Naruto with his Rinnegan techs. That is versatility, doing things one way or the other.

Rinnegan doesn't even have sensing abilities, so forget that.

Naruto wasn't versatile against Kaguya.

 

[Jokule67]

No, I haven't factored out TSBs. They don't add much against a Rikodou level opponent.

I think you're looking at a different implication of versatility. By versatility, I mean... Just look at Adult RSM+BM Naruto and Adult Sasuke. They're both equal in physical parameters like strength and speed. And Sasuke can counter all of Naruto's jutsus with his own jutsus (parallels exist on both sides). But in addition to that, Sasuke also has Rinnegan techs like Six Paths techniques and Ameno which add versatility, not power. Sasuke is exactly equal to Naruto with his Rinnegan techs, and is also equal to Naruto with his Rinnegan techs. That is versatility, doing things one way or the other.

Rinnegan doesn't even have sensing abilities, so forget that.

Naruto wasn't versatile against Kaguya.

Truth seeking orbs do plenty man. That move alone has the most versatillity in the whole manga. It can produce numerous effects that we havent even seen yet and no one is sure if Sasuke can really break it or not/ Nor if Naruto masterfully uses that jutsu. Same with Sasuke, noone is sure if he can use all the paths masterfully like Nagato yet they all portray him as if he does.

And never have I ever implied Sasuke could not counter Naruto. In fact I stated to many frickin times on this thread that they counter each other perfectly to a stalemate.

Rinnegan is an upgrade of sharingan. Narutos sensing surpasses the sharingans premenition. Without this Naruto wouldnt be able to fight against it at all. Sasuke would see it coming. So YES this plays a HUGE part. Kishi knew what he was doing adding sending to Naruto.

And Naruto was the MOST versatile against Kaguya. Sasuke used the same techniques that wouldnt work over and over. Naruto on the other hand got the best of her using alot of skills including 9 Bijuu signature moves. His fighting style in General is versatile. Its the only way he beats opponents stronger than him. By OUTWITTING them with powerful moves.


Oh and by the way yes they are equal in footspeed. Ameno is literally needed for Sasuke. Without it he couldnt keep up with Narutos shunshin or flight speed. However, if you really watched the movie you'd know Sasuke is physically the weakest out of them all. Naruto is a Sage and you deny manga facts by stating he is weaker. Sasuke had to literally keep moving as to not get totally crushed by Kinshinkis power. And Naruto punched Momoshiki(fused) through a mountain. Sasuke didnt have any strength feats putting him over Naruto or anyone else of their caliber in that movie. Sasuke has formidable strength.

 

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Yet another excellent Discourse on Naruto base dot com, I would like to see this one carry on well